Pakistan's diplomacy vis-à-vis Turkey

[PaklovesTurkiye]

We will future right now waiver in enough for

As for China going well and into MTCR it has to face India

We will make the bargain

Pakistan will be like always be a spectator in great games

No....Pakistanis are big damn player in great games. CPEC is fine example, which is going to change whole dynamics of Asia.....I don't get you, we blocked your entry in NSG and yet you are saying we are spectator. It is India who will be spectator, Pakistan will be connected with China, CARs and Iran through land while Indians stupidly first go through sea and then makes to the land..... Mind you....Forget about China, we will still block your entry in NSG through Turkey.... If China agrees to support your stance, which is highly likely...China has slapped on your face by saying....Entry for India only if Pakistan is allowed to......otherwise no.......

Indians will be spectator when they watch CPEC becoming successful and limiting your influence to Srilanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Thailand......Pakistan will take the lead and will cut your influence in pieces.......

 

[cerberus]

No....Pakistanis are big damn player in great games. CPEC is fine example, which is going to change whole dynamics of Asia.....I don't get you, we blocked your entry in NSG and yet you are saying we are spectator. It is India who will be spectator, Pakistan will be connected with China, CARs and Iran through land while Indians stupidly first go through sea and then makes to the land..... Mind you....Forget about China, we will still block your entry in NSG through Turkey.... If China agrees to support your stance, which is highly likely...China has slapped on your face by saying....Entry for India only if Pakistan is allowed to......otherwise no.......

Indians will be spectator when they watch CPEC becoming successful and limiting your influence to Srilanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Thailand......Pakistan will take the lead and will cut your influence in pieces.......

India multiple projects like CPEC and they are developed at much larger and higher scale

Off course your not Google search enough
Search about Delhi -Mumbai industrial Corridor

Like Turkey will give dam about you over NATO and US dream on child

All are will ,were is future tense the Reality is India is growth rate is highest compliment n world and investment hub

India as economy adding GDP Pakistan each year it will grow

 

[Kaniska]

This is a random post with some genuine questions. Please its a request dont troll. Please. Pretty please.
So I was just going through the list of members of MTCR and saw Turkey's name there and was confounded as to why did they support our bid in MTCR when according to some Pakistani members even if china changed its stance in NSG , Turkey would always be the last man standing for them. Now turkey is also there in Wassenar Arrangement and Australia group and again I dont see them having any reservations about India's membership. So can we conclude from this that if we are somehow able to get China on board, Turkey wouldn't want to be the lone thorn to India's NSG bid.
Wassenar and MTCR I think are more important than NSG since joining these groups would really disturb the conventional arms technology and even industrial technological balance. Pakistan should have tried to scuttle India's bid or at least tried to delay it. I think Pakistan foreign policy had a huge lapse here. Pakistan did whatever it could do to scuttle India's NSG bid and this was really a commendable job. Being successful or not doesn't matter when you've tried best to your ability which Pakistan did in this case and eventually succeeded in delaying India's bid or possibly stalling it. My two cents are that Pakistan should have atleast protested India's entry to MTCR and (Wassenar later this year) even if they didn't want to use diplomatic support from Turkey and other nations.
My two questions are
1) Why didn't pakistan give enough attention to MTCR and Wassenar or is it just relying on China for its interest?
2) Will Turkey become the villain if its the last one against the majority in NSG ( MTCR suggests it wont)?

Silly question...Turkey is friend of Pakistan...So it will stand by its friend...The word villian is silly one...I can see that it is predictable and nothing wrong in it...It is not like Turkey will not abandon Pakistan..but Turkey and Muslim nations always have preference to Muslim nations than the non Muslim ones...So they support Pakistan...

 

[ThaniOruvan]

One way or the other every Islam nation is against a non-Islam nation.
Islam nations maintain cordial relationships only among themselves.
Rest of them are either strategic/commercial/geopolitical (including India-Iran , India-Afghanistan, India-Saudi, Pakistan-China, China-Iran, USA-Saudi etc) ties.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

India multiple projects like CPEC and they are developed at much larger and higher scale

Off course your not Google search enough
Search about Delhi -Mumbai industrial Corridor

Like Turkey will give dam about you over NATO and US dream on child

All are will ,were is future tense the Reality is India is growth rate is highest compliment n world and investment hub

India as economy adding GDP Pakistan each year it will grow

You funny chap.....you are comparing inter city corridor with inter country corridor? India is two trillion economy with 1 billion population....not a big deal....

Turkey is also second biggest contributor of army in NATO......If US has influence over Turkey than Turkey also has influence over US/west......Its both way round. They have shot your dearest ally jet recently....They don't give two hoots to any super power....

We should block your entry in NSG, UNSC, Australian group and other organizations you are hoping to join....We can do it and we will do it....In Sha Allah....Turkey won't spit on India...Forget about supporting....If we had engaged Turks in MTCR, you would never have become member of it....Lucky escape you had....I must say....

Now Pakistan will play blocking blocking......You blocked our F16s now its our turn......

 

[CriticalThinker02]

It didn't really mattered if India was to be part of the MTCR group or not, you would have gotten the desired missile technologies regardless from the west and the same is the case with NSG, you already have the NSG waiver meaning you already are getting the desired nuclear technologies from the west regardless, by being part of the NSG for India it would be like taking a bath and cleaning all the filth away, Pakistan's protest is simple, it's a message for the west that if they continue to arm India with even more weapons of mass destruction and try to deteriorate the military balance of south asia than Pakistan would do whatever it takes to protect our own self interest meaning more and better sophisticated nuclear bombs and better and more advanced longer range missiles possibly even ICBM's.

 

[cerberus]

You funny chap.....you are comparing inter city corridor with inter country corridor? India is two trillion economy with 1 billion population....not a big deal....

Turkey is also second biggest contributor of army in NATO......If US has influence over Turkey than Turkey also has influence over US/west......Its both way round. They have shot your dearest ally jet recently....They don't give two hoots to any super power....

We should block your entry in NSG, UNSC, Australian group and other organizations you are hoping to join....We can do it and we will do it....In Sha Allah....Turkey won't spit on India...Forget about supporting....If we had engaged Turks in MTCR, you would never have become member of it....Lucky escape you had....I must say....

Now Pakistan will play blocking blocking......You blocked our F16s now its our turn......

All your assumption is to childish and Far from practical reality


Pakistan relevance is only be as spectator that's all
If you are so sure of Turkey brotherhood ask them to back your bid in either group and you will know your importance at world stage

 

[CriticalThinker02]

All your assumption is to childish and Far from practical reality


Pakistan relevance is only be as spectator that's all
If you are so sure of Turkey brotherhood ask them to back your bid in either group and you will know your importance at world stage

A non-Muslim like you will never understand the relations Pakistan has with Turkey and vice-versa which pre-dates even our independence.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

All your assumption is to childish and Far from practical reality


Pakistan relevance is only be as spectator that's all
If you are so sure of Turkey brotherhood ask them to back your bid in either group and you will know your importance at world stage

I repeat......India won't determine Pakistan's role and importance in world.....Very childish of you.....Pakistanis are everywhere.....proud and determined. Pakistanis despite fighting war at home still capable enough to throw challenges at you......Imagine what will happen when we get rid of war on terrorism and direct our focus at world and you......Its going to happen soon....CPEC is progressing fast......India is rolling in her bed due to this. Terrorism is at its lowest peak....Economy is getting stabilized....As we say.....

Abhi to party shru hui hai......aagey aagey dekh hota ha kya.....