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My dear our tracked SP guns will all be obsolete. All our potent guns are 155MM/39 calibre, while India is headed towards 155/52 caliber. We will soon be outgunned in tube artillery, but we are head on rocket artillery. This tit of tat arms race is a real drain on our nations blood.
Correct. K-9 to be procured by IA is ahead of M-109 of PA.
 
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Calibre Lengths. 155MM is NATO Standard, and 39 is caliber lengths. 52 is longer than 39, but there are other performance parameters as well in artillery.
What are your thoughts about procuring new lightweight howitzers in the 105 mm (e.g. MKEK Boran weighs 1,710 kg) or even 155 mm (e.g. NORINCO AH4 - weighs 4,500 kg)
 
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Have we still such HIGH (ca.400) numbers of the M30 122mm Gun in service ? (last time I did see this guns was in 2009 in operation against TTP).

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Pakistani army troops arrive with their artillery in the Umar Abad area outside the troubled Buner district on April 29, 2009.

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Type 54-1 towed howitzer in 2012


@Signalian @Ulla

When was the last time 130mm Type 59-1 field guns were reported / pictured in GB/AJK? I think PA has replaced them with 122mm D-30 and 105mm M101 in these areas

M101
 
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Type 54-1 towed howitzer in 2012


@Signalian @Ulla

When was the last time 130mm Type 59-1 field guns were reported / pictured in GB/AJK? I think PA has replaced them with 122mm D-30 and 105mm M101 in these areas

M101

I dont think that they have retired the Type 54-1, there is no reason to do so.
 
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I dont think that they have retired the Type 54-1, there is no reason to do so.

Yes they will remain in service. Do you have any pic/video of 130mm field gun Type 59-1 on LOC?

what is the status of Panter? how many we produced?

One Panter came for trials, but the type never made it to Pakistan Army service.

Army scrapped the 155mm towed howitzer tender, procured 36 D-30 howitzers at a low price of US$ 150,000 each, KH-179 upgrade to in service M114 howitzers is being considered along with new base bleed ammo production at POF (under license from a European company), so that the 39 caliber howitzers could fire to a range > than 30km and the 52 cals over 40km.
 
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Type 54-1 towed howitzer in 2012


@Signalian @Ulla

When was the last time 130mm Type 59-1 field guns were reported / pictured in GB/AJK? I think PA has replaced them with 122mm D-30 and 105mm M101 in these areas

M101
The line We would Love to fire was the best one
 
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Yes they will remain in service. Do you have any pic/video of 130mm field gun Type 59-1 on LOC?



One Panter came for trials, but the type never made it to Pakistan Army service.

Army scrapped the 155mm towed howitzer tender, procured 36 D-30 howitzers at a low price of US$ 150,000 each, KH-179 upgrade to in service M114 howitzers is being considered along with new base bleed ammo production at POF (under license from a European company), so that the 39 caliber howitzers could fire to a range > than 30km and the 52 cals over 40km.


I have only pics from 1999, which you can find very easy at google.
 
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