Pakistan's Artillery Upgrade Discussions

[Zarvan]

G6 Rhino should be considered

Pakistan is looking for Truck Mounted Artillery Gun. G6 is different thing

 

[Arsalan]

G6 Rhino should be considered

T5-52 was considered.

 

[Zarvan]

T5-52 was considered.

But Horus is saying it was not even tested I wonder why ????

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

More M-109s coming from a country i can't disclosed right now. Big boost for our gun slingers it will be.

European country ?

 

[Path-Finder]

Well can't say it can come the real surprise is that South African system not tested yet.

@Horus

more confusion and nothing more! there are people who said it has been tested and horus says completely something else.

Pakistan is looking for Truck Mounted Artillery Gun. G6 is different thing

Hazrat Trucks are on wheels so is G6, think about it Truck based is because it is using wheels instead to tank tracks.

 

[Arsalan]

Pakistan is looking for Truck Mounted Artillery Gun. G6 is different thing

We are looking for WHEELED artillery, G6 is also wheeled!

More M-109s coming from a country i can't disclosed right now. Big boost for our gun slingers it will be.

The M109 WONT effect "WHEELED SPH" procurement plans. Wont make sense. Just saying.

 

[Amaa'n]

Nahh, I just have a good set of ears

heheheh---just know, i meant it on a lighter note as a jk

 

[Army research]

More M-109s coming from a country i can't disclosed right now. Big boost for our gun slingers it will be.

Horus tell me these are used cheap ones so they don't affect the main plan of getting wheeled sph?

 

[pzfz]

more M109s is good but it adds nothing in terms of capability. Still the same restricted movement 39 caliber short ranged gun compared to what Pak needs. Good for Cholistan and Thar but nowhere else.

G6 might be on a wheeled chassis but that's not the same thing as being on a wheeled truck. Usually the truck mounted ones can be decoupled if one of the components (chassis/motor and the gun) break down. The G6 breaks down you're done for the whole system.

Can't believe people are still enamored by the Yugo gun (Nora B52). It's basically an upgunned soviet era M46. It doesn't have the firing rate nor the range of the Denel gun. If it's selected it will be another one on a list of questionable procurement decisions by the Pak armed forces.

 

[khanasifm]

More M-109s coming from a country i can't disclosed right now. Big boost for our gun slingers it will be.

Middle East ?? The South Korean gun being tested looks like light weight class 6k kg for mountain corps 11, 10 etc replacing 105 mm with heavier Caliber ?? Guessing

 

[Suff Shikan]

Pakistan is looking for Truck Mounted Artillery Gun. G6 is different thing

Then Caesar looks a better option.... even t5-52 and NORA are not bad

 

[fatman17]

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Russian Helicopters reveals Mi-171Sh-VN gunship

Published: July 25th, 2017

Photo: Stanislav Bazhenov

Russian Helicopters, a subsidiary of the Rostec state corporation, has unveiled a new, heavily armed, variant of the Mi-171Sh military transport helicopter at the MAKS 2017 airshow at Zhukovsky, outside Moscow.

The Mi-171Sh-VN is configured as a gunship for special operations and according to officials has been developed in light of experience from Russia’s campaign in Syria.

As well as additional weapons, the Mi-171Sh-VN includes other features to improve survivability. In addition to three crew, the helicopter can accommodate up to 37 troops.

The package of features incorporated in the Mi-171Sh-VN will apparently be offered to international customers as an option for the basic Mi-171Sh assault transport model.

Data published by Russian Helicopters includes a maximum take-off weight of 13,500kg, a maximum payload of 4,000kg, a ferry range of 1,065km, a service ceiling of 6,000m, a maximum speed of 280km/h, and a cruising speed of 260km/h.

The basic Mi-171Sh is an export version of the Russian military Mi-8AMTSh, which has been used in Syria. This latter aircraft is basically similar to the Mi-8MTV-5 but is produced by the Ulan-Ude plant, rather than Kazan Helicopters.



Stanislav Bazhenov

 

[peruni]

Can't believe people are still enamored by the Yugo gun (Nora B52). It's basically an upgunned soviet era M46. It doesn't have the firing rate nor the range of the Denel gun. If it's selected it will be another one on a list of questionable procurement decisions by the Pak armed forces.

Nora B52 is not upgunned M46. We have developed more then two decades ago a separate kit for upgunning M-46 based partial on previously developed Nora M84 technology. And Pakistan could use that kit to modernise existing M-46 - Type 59, 59-1. It includes new longer barrel, combustible powder charges, FCS and many other improvements.

Nora B-52 has a range depending on charge and missile used between 27km and 56km when we talk about ammo that Serbia produce and additionally can use ammo from any other manufacturer for 155mm guns with appropriate characteristics. There is currently few version of Nora B-52 that Serbia offers: K-I, K1 and KE version. All have different features and level of automation and all have one of the best FCS in world for artillery.

Newly developed version MGS-25 it is fully robotic system that can be operated by remote control. It could be operated with only 1 crewman in a case of need , standard crew is three.

 

[Gryphon]

More M-109s coming from a country i can't disclosed right now. Big boost for our gun slingers it will be.

Any info about the number of guns to be delivered ?

Middle East ?? The South Korean gun being tested looks like light weight class 6k kg for mountain corps 11, 10 etc replacing 105 mm with heavier Caliber ?? Guessing

X Corps and XI Corps mostly use 122mm and 130mm towed guns. Not the M114.

 

[denel]

more M109s is good but it adds nothing in terms of capability. Still the same restricted movement 39 caliber short ranged gun compared to what Pak needs. Good for Cholistan and Thar but nowhere else.

G6 might be on a wheeled chassis but that's not the same thing as being on a wheeled truck. Usually the truck mounted ones can be decoupled if one of the components (chassis/motor and the gun) break down. The G6 breaks down you're done for the whole system.

Can't believe people are still enamored by the Yugo gun (Nora B52). It's basically an upgunned soviet era M46. It doesn't have the firing rate nor the range of the Denel gun. If it's selected it will be another one on a list of questionable procurement decisions by the Pak armed forces.

Thank you. G6 is a complete mobile system not a bolted G5 on back of a commercial truck. G5 is a wheeled unit which is towed by a SAMIL truck; it has its own apu which is used to move it from place to place as well. The range of G5/G6 is well know as well as its accuracy.

We got our backsides kicked by Nora in first Angola ops which prompted us to start work on G5/G6s. Following engagements, G5/G6s proved themselves worthy against the cubans.