Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[ironman]

Making this kind of statements need proper links attached with it. A link which confirms Pakistani Saab has 192 T/R modules?

Once Again, Who says Pakistani Erieye is restricted to 240 degrees?

A satcom in Pakistani Awac is not needed based on the requirments. So that's why it didnt have and do enlighten us how come not having satcom will degrade the performance of Pak Saab?

Erieye AEW&C Airborne Early Warning & Control mission system radar (Sweden), Airborne radar systems

Type
Airborne Early Warning (AEW) radar.

Description
The Erieye AEW&C mission system radar is an active, phased-array, pulse-Doppler sensor that can feed an onboard operator architecture or downlink data (via an associated datalink subsystem) to a ground-based air defence network. The system employs a large aperture, dual-sided antenna array housed in a dorsal 'plank' fairing. The antenna is fixed, and the beam is electronically scanned, which provides for improved detection and significantly enhanced tracking performance compared with radar-dome antenna systems.Erieye detects and tracks air and sea targets out to the horizon (and beyond due to anomalous propagation) - instrumented range has been measured at 450 km. Typical detection range against fighter-sized targets is approximately 350 km, in a 150° broadside sector, both sides of the aircraft. Outside these sectors, performance is reduced in forward and aft directions.Other system features include:Adaptive waveform generation (including digital, phase-coded pulse compression), signal processing and target trackingTrack While Scan (TWS)Low sidelobe values (throughout the system's angular coverage)Low- and medium-pulse repetition frequency operating modesFrequency agilityAir-to-air and sea surveillance modesTarget radar cross-section displayThe radar operates as a medium- to high-PRF pulse-Doppler, solid-state radar, in E/F-band (3 GHz), incorporating 192 two-way transmit/receive modules that combine to produce a pencil beam, steered as required within the operating 150° sector each side of the aircraft (one side at a time). It is understood that Erieye has some ability to detect aircraft in the 30° sectors fore and aft of the aircraft heading, but has no track capability in this sector. The aircraft could be manoeuvred to permit tracking of targets in these sectors.

The electronically scanned antenna is controlled by an automatic intelligent energy management system, developed to utilise the phased-array technology implemented, pulse-by-pulse, to illuminate any desired azimuth. The ability instantaneously to direct the radar energy in any wanted direction is used by the operator to optimise power management for any particular scenario by assigning priorities to areas of interest, thus optimising probabilities of detection and overall system performance.

http://articles.janes.com/articles/Janes-Avionics/Erieye-AEW-C-Airborne-Early-Warning--Control-mission-system-radar-Sweden.html

For amardeep Indian eye in the sky :

 

[v9s]

Any idea why PAF went for the SAAB 2000 platform over others? especially a jet powered platform with longer range? Especially as (ironically) the majority of Eriye operators use the EMB-145 platform.

Saab 2000 range: 3,218km

EMB 145: 3,019 km

Plus Saab 2000 is more fuel efficient.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Saab 2000 range: 3,218km

EMB 145: 3,019 km

Plus Saab 2000 is more fuel efficient.

What about Speed

SAAB : 680 KM/H
EMB :820 KM/H

 

[v9s]

What about Speed

SAAB : 680 KM/H
EMB :820 KM/H

Speed isn't significantly important in an AWACs Aircraft, endurance is.

Turboprops give the aircraft a lot of endurance (9.5h+ for the SAAB 2000).

 

[Nishan_101]

I had a wish that PAC would initiate some turbo prop aircraft project with China like a one: which will have the same capabilities like the P-3Cs means:
An aircraft with some design like of SAAB-2000 but with fuselage capacity similar to P-3Cs, wing area similar or better than P-3Cs but with twin turbo prop engines with wide blades and is being constructed with composites along with a tale like AN-225 which will be helpful as it can be used as AWE&Cs aircraft too and may be foreplanes/canards for better controls.

An Aircraft like this can be used for martime patrol as well as for AEW&Cs purposes and PAF and PN could buy such an aircraft like:
PAF: 11AEW&Cs and 5 ELINT/EW
PN: 11 MPAs and 5 AEW&Cs for better eye on seas and oceans.

A version with different tale like on Il-76 can be used for civilian purposes and can be sold to international and local markets as wll.

 

[nomi007]

What about Speed

SAAB : 680 KM/H
EMB :820 KM/H

read the story of rabbit-tortoise

I had a wish that PAC would initiate some turbo prop aircraft project with China like a one: which will have the same capabilities like the P-3Cs means:
An aircraft with some design like of SAAB-2000 but with fuselage capacity similar to P-3Cs, wing area similar or better than P-3Cs but with twin turbo prop engines with wide blades and is being constructed with composites along with a tale like AN-225 which will be helpful as it can be used as AWE&Cs aircraft too and may be foreplanes/canards for better controls.

An Aircraft like this can be used for martime patrol as well as for AEW&Cs purposes and PAF and PN could buy such an aircraft like:
PAF: 11AEW&Cs and 5 ELINT/EW
PN: 11 MPAs and 5 AEW&Cs for better eye on seas and oceans.

A version with different tale like on Il-76 can be used for civilian purposes and can be sold to international and local markets as wll.

paf already faces financial crisis

 

[SBD-3]

I had a wish that PAC would initiate some turbo prop aircraft project with China like a one: which will have the same capabilities like the P-3Cs means:
An aircraft with some design like of SAAB-2000 but with fuselage capacity similar to P-3Cs, wing area similar or better than P-3Cs but with twin turbo prop engines with wide blades and is being constructed with composites along with a tale like AN-225 which will be helpful as it can be used as AWE&Cs aircraft too and may be foreplanes/canards for better controls.

An Aircraft like this can be used for martime patrol as well as for AEW&Cs purposes and PAF and PN could buy such an aircraft like:
PAF: 11AEW&Cs and 5 ELINT/EW
PN: 11 MPAs and 5 AEW&Cs for better eye on seas and oceans.

A version with different tale like on Il-76 can be used for civilian purposes and can be sold to international and local markets as wll.

That would depend upon needs, at the moment NAVY seems pretty satisfied with the inventory of maritime air-crafts it has. Secondly, China has just started to manufacture more sophisticated maritime patrol and attack aircraft add PAC's lack of familiarity to it and things get fairly clear. PLAN can afford manufacturing since its need warrant large inventory and thus incentive of local production. Same doesn't hold for Pakistan since NAVY, at max, needs around ten maritime attackers at a given time.

paf already faces financial crisis

Such a project, if it ever happens, would be funded by PN not PAF.........its rather they don't need it than funds availability.

 

[nomi007]

Such a project, if it ever happens, would be funded by PN not PAF.........its rather they don't need it than funds availability.[/QUOTE]
both need funds from federal govt yar

 

[nomi007]

1 hope this will be 2nd zdk

 

[Armstrong]

1 hope this will be 2nd zdk

Huuun ! I'm sure the big one is going to be an ever-vigilant asset but what the heck is the PAF going to do with the baby Tigers ?

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Huuun ! I'm sure the big one is going to be an ever-vigilant asset but what the heck is the PAF going to do with the baby Tigers ?

Make them the Mascot of the Squadron operating the ZDKs.

They're quite nice looking.

 

[fatman17]

1 hope this will be 2nd zdk

3rd ZDK.....!

 

[acetophenol]

Huuun ! I'm sure the big one is going to be an ever-vigilant asset but what the heck is the PAF going to do with the baby Tigers ?

You mean the tigers in the pic? They seem to decorate the dashboard of the car from which the pic was taken

 

[Zarvan]

What is the range of these radars and How many crew members are there in this plane and are they engineers or what and does this plane also carry some missiles because I have seen awacs which also carry two three missiles don't know of what sought but they carried

 

[Nishan_101]

1 hope this will be 2nd zdk

Its Y-9 based MPA that PN might acquire by 2015.