Pakistanis !!! How do you find different Pakistani Ethnicities? Share your opinions

[El Sidd]

Their goons are still there bro. Just lying low. Whole lotta people still favoring the sanda bhai.

fringe elements are always up against time.

imrans the new bhai. ask farigh naseem

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

My maasi was saraiki. God rest her soul. Such a uneducated woman. But I haven't seen anyone more sweet, hardworking or rightous/pious than her. She fulfilled her lifelong wish of doing umrah and died peacefully.

May Allah grant her a high place in Jannah. Ameen.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

I didn't even say anything bro

@waz @The Eagle
This dog is barking again, put a leash on it before things go out of hand

 

[SQ8]

Don't know about any other ethnicity but have experience with Punjabis in different walks of life.

They have a very condescending attitude towards Pashtuns and borderline racist. You can tell how they show Pashtuns in tv, media as some dumb people, that's pretty much how they see us in real life.

Whenever going through army checkpoints in Peshawar/KPK, we would pray it was some Pashtun because Punjabis would just act cold-hearted and make you suffer.

Of course not everyone is like this, had friends in school and in university, few girl "friends" who acted okay.

My impression is once they get to know us, they drop their preconceived notions about us. For many who haven't interacted with us except at bare minimum, their attitude is really bad. Pakistani media is really crap. They show Pashtuns as really dumb fcks who can't speak Urdu and are always shown as comic relief or fighting wars like the only two things we're good at, that has to leave an impression.

The positives i would say is they're smart people, well educated and going places.

The media impression of Pashtun’s has a lot to blame for this. Both in terms of portraying them as simpletons or extremists. Being from Karachi and a UP family one hears the negative stereotypes.. but then the history with land grabbing mafia from MqM and AnP going back to Gohar Ayub’s racism and oddly those of the Brown “Sahib” urdu-speaking/central Punjab migrants that formed the bureaucracy added to the cross hatred. This was added to by the fearful and crime ridden reputation of Pashtun areas in Karachi including stories of “glueing eyes of Mohajirs( although large percentage of this were the tribal economic migrants and especially the Afghan refugee population which was recruited into ANP proxy wars(a different and vast subject altogether on Karachi dynamics).

However, having lived in Peshawar for two years and having love interests there for a while, all the stereotypes were dispelled... at least in terms of their uniqueness of “simpletons and terrorists”. I did encounter racism in Peshawar with one of my professors openly declaring in his Pakistan studies class “Mohajir bohat khabees qaum hai”.. but oddly full of effusing praise for my father because he was well known in the high end social circles of Peshawar.

Yet, even with simpleton encounters ( such as that of servants walking cycles to fetch bread since they did not know how to ride one but as we had suggested taking it.. he did.. ) and us unknowingly venturing out for a picnic right near an area where a TTP attack had taken place and the army had vacated.. the majority of these stereotypes apply to ALL ethnicities.

I have not encountered another ethnicity in Pakistan more focused on education when they get down to it or loyal. A lot of it has to do with culture and lack of access to the facilities the state has denied historically.

The point of this reply is that having lived in 3 provinces of the country in multiple urban and rural areas.. and not in sheltered military bases; I find that all ethnicities have mostly positive attributes in different spheres to contribute and the negative aspects are generally more shared.

The greatest issue is lack pf exposure to a multi-ethnic environment from a young age which even in later life leads to inherited prejudices.

The true solution to this is increased urbanization (not exactly ideal) or encouraging movement and tourism between areas.

The biggest problem in Pakistan will remain ignorance; be it of science, proper religious education, culture or ethnic relations. Unless you know and/or experience a lot early on and then be taught early to decide on merit what is right and wrong.. you will continue to harbor misconceptions and ill will.

Finally, what is important is the lesson that while horrible mistakes have been done by all sides.. some more than the other; the current generation should not continue or be punished for them other than being taught their evils and told to avoid them. The focus on the eye for an eye is why we still see racists on this forum running amok because that is what they have been taught by families or the social environment they live in.

Until each of us let’s go, forgives and starts looking to forge trust.. Pakistan will not remain as these sins pile up against it.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Living in Lahore and Pindi I didn't really see such racism. Especially in Pindi which was a military town and had all ethnicities.

Only when I came to America I realized how racism is a big problem between resident of different ethnicities in Karachi.

The media impression of Pashtun’s has a lot to blame for this. Both in terms of portraying them as simpletons or extremists. Being from Karachi and a UP family one hears the negative stereotypes.. but then the history with land grabbing mafia from MqM and AnP going back to Gohar Ayub’s racism and oddly those of the Brown “Sahib” urdu-speaking/central Punjab migrants that formed the bureaucracy added to the cross hatred. This was added to by the fearful and crime ridden reputation of Pashtun areas in Karachi including stories of “glueing eyes of Mohajirs( although large percentage of this were the tribal economic migrants and especially the Afghan refugee population which was recruited into ANP proxy wars(a different and vast subject altogether on Karachi dynamics).

However, having lived in Peshawar for two years and having love interests there for a while, all the stereotypes were dispelled... at least in terms of their uniqueness of “simpletons and terrorists”. I did encounter racism in Peshawar with one of my professors openly declaring in his Pakistan studies class “Mohajir bohat khabees qaum hai”.. but oddly full of effusing praise for my father because he was well known in the high end social circles of Peshawar.

Yet, even with simpleton encounters ( such as that of servants walking cycles to fetch bread since they did not know how to ride one but as we had suggested taking it.. he did.. ) and us unknowingly venturing out for a picnic right near an area where a TTP attack had taken place and the army had vacated.. the majority of these stereotypes apply to ALL ethnicities.

I have not encountered another ethnicity in Pakistan more focused on education when they get down to it or loyal. A lot of it has to do with culture and lack of access to the facilities the state has denied historically.

The point of this reply is that having lived in 3 provinces of the country in multiple urban and rural areas.. and not in sheltered military bases; I find that all ethnicities have mostly positive attributes in different spheres to contribute and the negative aspects are generally more shared.

The greatest issue is lack pf exposure to a multi-ethnic environment from a young age which even in later life leads to inherited prejudices.

The true solution to this is increased urbanization (not exactly ideal) or encouraging movement and tourism between areas.

The biggest problem in Pakistan will remain ignorance; be it of science, proper religious education, culture or ethnic relations. Unless you know and/or experience a lot early on and then be taught early to decide on merit what is right and wrong.. you will continue to harbor misconceptions and ill will.

Finally, what is important is the lesson that while horrible mistakes have been done by all sides.. some more than the other; the current generation should not continue or be punished for them other than being taught their evils and told to avoid them. The focus on the eye for an eye is why we still see racists on this forum running amok because that is what they have been taught by families or the social environment they live in.

Until each of us let’s go, forgives and starts looking to forge trust.. Pakistan will not remain as these sins pile up against it.

 

[SQ8]

I didn't even say anything bro

What would you like to get started on?
Hatred? Spew some expletives? Imagine rape on women? Death.. economic hardship.. expulsion?
What will satisfy your(Pakistanis) lust ?

That applies for Karachi dwellers( Mohajirs).. both from you and them as well..
And all others..

Kitna khoon pyass bhuja de ga sab Pakistanion ki aik doosre ke liye?

Maybe we should just nuke Pakistan from our own weapons.. and then this “dont get me started on X” will be satisfied.

don’t take it as offensive.. it isn’t meant as a rebuke to what may be light humor from you.. but showing you where the light humor led us to.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

I posted in agreement with you.

Will post again:

Living in Lahore and Pindi I didn't really see such racism. Especially in Pindi which was a military town and had all ethnicities.

Only when I came to America I realized how racism is a big problem between resident of different ethnicities in Karachi.

What would you like to get started on?
Hatred? Spew some expletives? Imagine rape on women? Death.. economic hardship.. expulsion?
What will satisfy your lust ?

That applies for Karachi dwellers( Mohajirs).. both from you and them as well..
And all others..

Kitna khoon pyass bhuja de ga sab Pakistanion ki aik doosre ke liye?

Maybe we should just nuke Pakistan from our own weapons.. and then this “dont get me started on X” will be satisfied.

don’t take it as offensive.. it isn’t meant as a rebuke to what may be light humor from you.. but showing you where the light humor led us to.

Post#96 for reference.

 

[That Guy]

I look at people, not ethnicities.

 

[gangsta_rap]

I don't like pakistanis

 

[SQ8]

I posted in agreement with you.

Will post again:



Post#96 for reference.

But you saw the reaction.. to even a light hearted joke.. because their sensitivity is dialled up already.. causing a misunderstanding.. and then no stopping it

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Baat to yar sai hai. Mein bhi pehle aise hi sochta tha lekin sadly my discussion(which turned into debates) with the Karachiwalas at the office truned me off from em.

Such misunderstandings are exploited by enemies. And propoganda such as Punjabi army comes to light where the Punjabi has oppressed everyone the Bengali, Pathan, Baloch, Muhajir. Punjabi itna wela hai sab ko oppress karta phirta hai wah bhai wah.

BTW I tried to tell that to an "uncle" at office. But he was die hard supporter of bhai and hated Punjabis.

But you saw the reaction.. to even a light hearted joke.. because their sensitivity is dialled up already.. causing a misunderstanding.. and then no stopping it

 

[Crusher]

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Such misunderstandings are exploited by enemies. And propoganda such as Punjabi army comes to light where the Punjabi has oppressed everyone the Bengali, Pathan, Baloch, Muhajir. Punjabi itna wela hai sab ko oppress karta phirta hai wah bhai wah.

You made me laugh by this line, waqai aini wel kidday kol kay enha sarya nu opress karan lai .

 

[Blacklight]

Baat to yar sai hai. Mein bhi pehle aise hi sochta tha lekin sadly my discussion(which turned into debates) with the Karachiwalas at the office truned me off from em.

Such misunderstandings are exploited by enemies. And propoganda such as Punjabi army comes to light where the Punjabi has oppressed everyone the Bengali, Pathan, Baloch, Muhajir. Punjabi itna wela hai sab ko oppress karta phirta hai wah bhai wah.

BTW I tried to tell that to an "uncle" at office. But he was die hard supporter of bhai and hated Punjabis.

One thing that a Karachite once said to be, which I cant forget is: " When they had the opportunity, why didn't they wipe out the Bhutto clan, and PPP? They plague us to this day."

 

[Mr.Cringeworth]

Pathans are Bros.
Haven't had much contact with Sindhis and Balochis.
Punjabis are awesome(especially llains. Pahariye/Pothoharis are love as well but need to be carefull from some of em.)

Don't get me started on Karachiites

Don't have anything against any ethnicity but i do have a bone to pick with karachiiites, to me they come of as selfish braggers with an attitude that they own you.

Disclaimer it could be that the people from Karachi i had an interaction with are just shitty people, I'm just giving my opinion based on that.

 

[El Sidd]

Don't have anything against any ethnicity but i do have a bone to pick with karachiiites, to me they come of as selfish braggers with an attitude that they own you.

Disclaimer it could be that the people from Karachi i had an interaction with are just shitty people, I'm just giving my opinion based on that.

its a big city thing.

Just go to Cairo or Istanbul. You will find a similar pattern.

It's like Berlin where people are famous for their rash tongue.

Shehron me time nahi hota logon ke paas. its a doggy dog world in the cities.