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Pakistanis have more confidence in military than in current government

well then with people like you the army sleeps easy and it explain the progress of Pakistan in 65 yrs.

Pakistan has progressed a lot during army rule and clearly army has been more sincere to the Pakistan then the politician.

well then with people like you the army sleeps easy and it explain the progress of Pakistan in 65 yrs.

Pakistan has progressed a lot during army rule and clearly army has been more sincere to the Pakistan then the politician.
 
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Do elaborate how is it that in a country of 185 million people an army of 500K is in a majority .

dafuq? so in your small narrow world only 500k = Military personals support the army and all of civilians are against army?
 
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Its because Military is Educated , and has Morals
Politicians are crooks ....

This is last election I will tolorate Imran Khan or else Army please take control and appoint a civilian governor
Our educaion level is below 30% and peopel can`t vote correctly unless the education level becomes 90% in country
 
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army is the most corrupt after govt, and they are letting drone attacks, they aare helping americans, ISI working with CIA, and black water, in pakistan the army own big big lands, they are land lords, business men run defence housing, faujji foundation

look at their luxuries big houses, and then look at their weapons G3 rifle from stone age, dont even have proper military equipments

musharraf made some advancements other wise our military was stone age

they are just money making people dont care about our nation security
 
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I think its unfair , your statements are not fully correct here are the facts

a) Army of Pakistan has educated backgound every one is educated and properly educated
not the type of education that is common in Public schools. And Military should be
congradulated that they kept their standards high and did not depend on civilian
government's education standards.


b) Every country in world, including USA , Canada , Britain the Military , gets free education and residence and pay its standard why because when things go wrong the Army , puts their lives at stake

Example: In USA , military soldiers are granted 40,000 USD for their education free higher education
In Canada sometimes soldiers are given 20,000 Siging bonus to join their miliatry
Simialarly they enjoy health benefits

Infact they even have option for soldiers to study in Special Universities for Soldiers



When Pakistan had floods , who came to help the public it was the Army , soldiers and airforce (helicopters) to some extent.

Then you claimed well the Military owns lands and that they run businesses , my dear friend is it illegal for a retired person to get into business ? During the time when Military man serves the nation he cannot take part in business however when they retire from Military they can work in civilian posts.

Traditionally , Pakistan Army has stepped up in Politics this time around they are letting Democracy take shape
they have done nothing wrong

If however Imran Khan does not comes to power then I will certainly favour Revolution or Military Law instead of seeing anything of previous leaders come back to power because they have failed


Pakistan's problem is not the Army the problem is Education level ...
75-80% graduating from Pakistani Education model are cheating their way out of exams
and this is creating a working class of horrible standard , and then they cut throat to get ahead , we see this syndrome in Politics


What has the civilian govern done in last 5 years ... FIVE long years ?

hmmm ...

The Underlaying things were Civilian government responsiblity ...

ACHIVEMENT OF CIVILIAN GOVERNMENT FOR LAST 5 YEARS

No major DAM construction
Failed rental power plant project
Failed CNG gas situation
Could not sign Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project work (pressure from US)
Attack on Pakistani girl , for womens education
Or when they wasted whole Punjab's budget on 1 metro train in one city ?
Or when they used Government budget to buy and give out laptops ?
Did they collect Taxes from people
Increase in inflations
Sad state of "STATE COMPANIES"
Illegal Hirings in STATE companies , who were making no profits
Power shortages
Terrorism increase
No MAJOR defence purchase
Some politician's Child killed a Police DSP's son in Karachi this is standard of Civilian Leadership


Compared to Military Leadership of Musharaf Sahib

* IT reforms (Technological companies reforms) all companies have websites
* Initiatives to bring Forigners on high salary to Pakistani High End positions
* Dairy Farm Reforms which made Pakistan Top Dairy producing country
* NADRA Initiative for security and consensus , and tracking of people
* FREEDOM of press , before him there were 2-3 channels and no news on these channels
* GWADAR initiative , for second port of Pakistan
* Military Defence Deals (AWACs , F16, Missiles, Refueling Tankers, J10b , OHP , F22P frigates)
* Economic Boom before Earth Quakes hit Pakistani cities.
* Real Estate Property Boom in country new development
* Major improvements in infrastructure in Karachi (with help from other Party)
* Rasul Poor Engine Overhaul Factory , creation
* Anti Terrorism initiatives
**Pakistani Economy that was almost bankrupt in Nawaz Sharif's term
was made profitable
** Creation of HEC institute for Higher Education standard in Pakistan




ONLY MISTAKE MUSHARAF DID WAS CANCELLED BANISHMENT OF ALL CORRUPT POLITICIANS

When Pakistan got Floods , where was the Civilian Head of State ?
Yes he was in London , he was uninvited guest , stopped by for visiit and British press
were confused why was he in London when Pakistan was under water?

Picture from Archives when Pakistan was under flood and Leader was in UK with all his family
he abondoned his post really
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I personally have tremendous respect for Armed forces and the heads who stayed out of politics
and it allowed people of Pakistan to see , HOW HORRIBLE the CIVILIAN democratic so called Leaders are ...


Day by Day I am coming to conclusion that PAKISTAN is a state , where DEMOCRACY cannot work untill the day , the Education Level of People is at least 90% rate

I feel Mr Imran Khan has some new ideas but beyond that I would prefer Mushsraf Shaib back
 
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Pakistan has progressed a lot during army rule and clearly army has been more sincere to the Pakistan then the politician.



Pakistan has progressed a lot during army rule and clearly army has been more sincere to the Pakistan then the politician.
Is that so ? so why do they bother with coups then? why not just stand for elections.
dafuq? so in your small narrow world only 500k = Military personals support the army and all of civilians are against army?

Read what i said above.
 
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It's always the case. when military runs the country, Pakistanis trust in civilian running the country goes up a notch. When Civilians comes in, Military system of governance looks far more viable. Reality is... none of these two forms can work beyond a certain amount of time period in Pakistan. Time to try something new....
 
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It's always the case. when military runs the country, Pakistanis trust in civilian running the country goes up a notch. When Civilians comes in, Military system of governance looks far more viable. Reality is... none of these two forms can work beyond a certain amount of time period in Pakistan. Time to try something new....

and what do you mean by new?
 
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and what do you mean by new?

You guys have been through Military rule as well as parliamentary system of democracy. Neither of them seems to have worked in Pakistan for a longer period of time. What Pakistanis need is to get behind a leader who they can trust. Maybe they its time to go for a presidential kinda democracy...that way common people can chose their leader instead of Zardari choosing a Raja Pervez Ashraf or a Pervez Musharraf claiming the seat with the help of triple 1 brigade.
Pakistan is in a desperate need of a hero who can inspire the whole nation. Neither Zardari or Nawaz Sharif or Kayani's likes are able to do that. If Imran Khan comes into power, again he will get sucked into this quagmire of party politics in the current political atmosphere. Need a complete rehabilitation...
 
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You guys have been through Military rule as well as parliamentary system of democracy. Neither of them seems to have worked in Pakistan for a longer period of time. What Pakistanis need is to get behind a leader who they can trust. Maybe they its time to go for a presidential kinda democracy...that way common people can chose their leader instead of Zardari choosing a Raja Pervez Ashraf or a Pervez Musharraf claiming the seat with the help of triple 1 brigade.
Pakistan is in a desperate need of a hero who can inspire the whole nation. Neither Zardari or Nawaz Sharif or Kayani's likes are able to do that. If Imran Khan comes into power, again he will get sucked into this quagmire of party politics in the current political atmosphere. Need a complete rehabilitation...

and chances of that are none people will not come out to oppose gov.
 
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army is the most corrupt after govt, and they are letting drone attacks, they aare helping americans, ISI working with CIA, and black water, in pakistan the army own big big lands, they are land lords, business men run defence housing, faujji foundation

look at their luxuries big houses, and then look at their weapons G3 rifle from stone age, dont even have proper military equipments

musharraf made some advancements other wise our military was stone age

they are just money making people dont care about our nation security

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Seriously how old are you :coffee:
I hope you know how to Read!
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Military least corrupt institution: TIP | The Nation
 
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My support is with Pak Army & only they can save Pakistan, these incompetent politicians (PPP, PML-N, PML-Q, ANP, JUI & MQM) are not capable of doing anything good, the only thing these corrupt & incompetent politicians (PPP, PML-N, PML-Q, ANP, JUI & MQM)have given to Pakistan is racism, hatred & terrorism (both political & foreign terrorism).

Many people around the world, including myself strongly believe that OBL operation was a complete lie & Obama’s way of boosting his popularity in US for the elections. And this fake operation was only meant to frame & stage Pakistan as a terrorist country.

We Pakistanis also need to understand here that PPP alone is not responsible for hurting Pakistan PML-N, PML-Q, ANP, JUI & MQM are equally involved in hurting Pakistan & Pakistan’s economy.

Military INSHAALLAH will once again save Pakistan from these incompetent & corrupt politicnas, INSHAALLAH this time it will be the end of these corrupt & incompetent politicians there will be no escape this time, INSHAALLAH & AMEEN.
 
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