Arsalan 345
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Problem for us is that we think with our heart,not with our mind.That is coward thinking!
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Problem for us is that we think with our heart,not with our mind.That is coward thinking!
Problem for us is that we think with our heart,not with our mind.
You pay for centuries for mistakes of a moment.Everything happens when its meant to happen. No a minute sooner or later. If it didn't happen, then we were not ready as a nation to have it. We also lost East Pakistan as a collective punishment for our own doings.
Are we better as a nation now to deserve more from the Almighty?
If and when we are, things will move and we will get what we deserve.
Until then, do not talk about who did what and what they could have done, but talk about whatever could've been done would have resulted in the same outcome because things don't happen as per the planning of humans.
I hope you would know that much being a Muslim?
His buddy at that time was Kennedy---. He stated that Kennedy promised him to resolve Kashmir---so he did not want to upset his 'buddy' Kennedy by capturing Kashmir in 1962 in a military action---
In 1965 Bhutto and Ayub overestimated Kashmiri response... Or lack of response.. that was like The Bay of Pigs for Pakistan.. In 1999 Musharraf underestimated the Indian response..
But what is Crystal Clear now is the American desperation to seek Pakistan's help in Afghanistan.. actually Trump's personal desperation to be reelected.. and also clear that India is more failed in Kashmir than ever before since 1947...
Too many tyrants in history were very efficient and democratically elected... just weren't visionaries... Mr Modi perhaps joining the ranks...
Why would Trump be re-elected even if there was Afghanistan peace plan ? some of the posters have delusions of grandeur
Oh come on. A peaceful exit from Afghanistan after almost two decades of expensive, futile war is a big bragging right and definitely a plus for Trump.
Personally, I can't stand this phony guy but... it is what it is.
pulling out of Afghanistan is a plus for America and for Trump. But will it change the elections ?
I am not sure the impact. But my guess is it will be significant. Currently, both American the left and right are very much for non-involvement in foreign entanglements. Trump can boast on and on about how he ended a futile two decade war which no other US President had the nerve to end.
Of course we will not have a scientific way of knowing the impact, would we? People are still speculating how much the Bin Laden death contributed to Obama's win. It certainly helped him.
American politics is so polarized for foreign policy to make an impact
it is about immigration, race, social hot button issues and economic inequality
Army and airforce was in no position to push any further.Musharraf did the right thing, maybe we wouldn’t be here today with a radical leading neighboring country and two nations on verge of nuclear conflict, If army would’ve pressed India further instead of pulling back during kargil. I’m sure Kashmir would’ve been solved. We all noticed change in Indian tone after kargil thrashing till Mumbai attacks. Indeed we missed a golden chance to give a knock out punch to enemy and sacrifices of our shaeeds went down the drain. Only a traitor can pull out such a stunt against his people.
Army and airforce was in no position to push any further.
Our posts were falling, jawans were dying, supplies were cut off.
Musharraf asked ganja to bail him out.
And you believe Musharraf's word over others? The man who initiated a coup was so obedient that he withdrew on his orders despite "winning".
Musharraf lied to the nation. It's time we learn from past mistakes, instead of glorifying them as victories.
And Bhutto did the same with Ayub, saying that he lost on table what we won on field ; reality was that we didn't win, but it was a stalemate.
In Kargil however, it was not stalemate but total loss for us. Minus a bunch of peaks close to LOC.
That is very true.If our air force was capable during Kargil---the map of Kashmir would not be the same---.
Not to take advantage of 1962 indo-china war was foolish act of Ayub. But Pak Army has shown its mettle in present time by defeating world's fiercest and most ruthless terrorist syndicate TTP, supported by India, Afg, and with tacit approval from USA.It seems consistently that the military hierarchy is more "afraid" and "loyal" to foreign powers than to their own people. Everywhere, even the sensitivities of India to their aircraft being shot down. More important than the safety of the Pak nation, who pay them their salaries and pensions, and housing schemes, and trips to London and New York...
I remember in the 2000s seeing an DG ISI generals son travelling the world and them living in a palace-like house. All this, the poor Pakistani people pay for, what about their sensitivities? What about being loyal to them?
These secular, godless, Macauley's children will never be loyal to anyone. What was that saying, dhobi ghat ke kuthe...
Not to take advantage of 1962 indo-china war was foolish act of Ayub. But Pak Army has shown its mettle in present time by defeating world's fiercest and most ruthless terrorist syndicate TTP, supported by India, Afg, and with tacit approval from USA.
Even US and NATO, world's most powerful military machine had to spend trillions in Iraq to defeat the insurgency but the miscarriage gave birth to dreadful ISIS.
Pakistan Army did a miracle in Pakistan.