Pakistanis and North West Indians have same Ancestors.

[Taimoor Khan]

No , its not .There is ample proof that egyptian civ was centred around nile but no proof that ivc was centred around indus ; in fact majority of ivc sites lie on the banks of now extinct saraswati . Its been proven that saraswati was a real river , not a mythical one . And even if we accept saraswati never existed ,there are more IVC sites in India than in pakistan anyway .

BTW , IVC is recognised as an ancient Indian civilization world over . Do you subscribe to that too ?

World recognise it as "Indus" Valley civilization not sarasvati Valley civilization, infact no one outside India even know what the hell is sarasvati. This myth of sarasvati which doesnt even exist was created by RSS goons to some how hijack Pakistani civilization.

Rest assured, ALL major Indus cities are in Pakistan around Indus and it's other sister rivers. Mohenjodaro and Harrapa, to name few. It's also called harappain culture, in reference to harrapa, go figure out where harrapa is. Infact, the earliest Indus settlement which happen to be recognised world wide as first settlement of humanity is actually on the western side of Indus river, Mehrgarh in Baluchistan. Whatever you got is what our ancestors build when the empire extended itself to the lands which are now India.

no , it was Ancestors of Pakstanis, Haryanvis, Rajasthanis and Gujaratis who created IVC.

Ancestors of Pakistanis who build the first building blocks going all the way to Mehrgarh in Baluchistan, are the root race of humanity. Rest came from them, including the ones you mentioned.

 

[Imad.Khan]

I'd like to see an Indian owned restaurant marketing itself selling "Pakistani" cuisine. Do post a link or proof; I am happy to be corrected.

This is one of the popular Indian restaurants in sydney, and as you can see they Market themselves as Indian and Pakistani. I think the owners are from Delhi or Bombay, i can't remember exactly.

https://www.menulog.com.au/curry-at-the-rocks

But there are many more, all of them include other countries like Bangladesh or Sri Lanka to widen their customer base which is a good strategy as the foods are very similar for all these countries.

 

[krash]

Just keep washing the dishes at the "Indian" restaurant your distant relative owns.

Sigh......must you Indians always amply demonstrate the stupidity which is rampant within your kind? If I was washing those dishes, I'd be damned proud of it. But then we have examples such as you who, in their self-realisation of worthless existence and a burdensome life, pathetically and desperately attempt at reconciling their cognitive dissonance between self's actuality and fantasy by turning to hot mouthing on internet foras hoping that maybe somebody, anybody would be fooled into not recognising their fickle existence, even if for a fleeting moment. It's quite entertaining.

Regardless, only an imbecile who has nothing to show for himself would think anything bad of a man earning an honest living by washing dishes, or anything else, in anyone's establishment...one who's never stepped outside the 2 bit sized misery that he calls his life and one who uses the internet anonymity to feel better about himself and his kind. For all those Indians, and Pakistanis for that matter, whom I see working 10 hour days 6 days a week washing dishes, driving taxis, cleaning malls and performing security guard duties in -35 all through the night have nothing but respect from me, may their futures bring them boundless success. Since you see, unlike you, they aren't moronic, inconsequential, amount to nothing, worth nothing internet wannabees who haven't even a thought that's worth something.

Lol, no Indian would market their restaurant as "Pakistani".

How about Mr. Patel who owns,

https://www.yelp.ca/biz/rubys-kitchen-regina

Or Mr. Ashwani who runs,

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourcei...02128,3270&tbm=lcl&rldimm=6260206370658838962

Feel free to contact them.

Furthermore, pretty much all "desi" restaurants abroad offer both Pakistani and Indian cuisine irrespective of what's the nationality of the owner. One of the reasons why I am yet to see an "Indian restaurant" which does not exclusively use halal meat in their dishes, at least in this country. But how would you know that, having never stepped outside the 3 block radius from your house?

As far as documentation is concerned, I just shared a link from Reuters which specifically referred to the US.

Can anyone help me out with the "documentation" this guy is claiming that he provided in his post that I quoted? See below,

Lol but once they are overseas they seem to yearn to be Indian. This is a documented fact. I've even seen Pakistanis market their restaurants as "Indian".

If you were more educated, you would get it. But then again, if you were educated you wouldn't be washing dishes at that "Indian" restaurant

I'm guessing you're a post graduate student at one of the Ivy League Unis? If not then I've got news for you, lol. This isn't your average household sitting where you can say and claim whatever that you fancy.

@WAJsal sup? Someone here's using this forum as an escape.

 

[ZenBird]

You don't have sikh ancestry, just that waraich is also one of sikh jatt clans.

Plenty of people converted back and forth between Islam and Sikhism. Some Sikh Jatts stayed in Pakistan after partition and converted to Islam so his ancestors might be literally Sikhs. Not that it matters and I agree with OP that put me in a room full of Indians (non Punjabi) and Pakistanis and I'm likely going to make friends with Pakistanis than Indians.

Btw Warraich is one of the few Jatt clans who are Sikhs, Muslims and Hindus (Haryana).

Sigh......must you Indians always amply demonstrate the stupidity which is rampant within your kind? If I was washing those dishes, I'd be damned proud of it. But then we have examples such as you who, in their self-realisation of worthless existence and a burdensome life, pathetically and desperately attempt at reconciling their cognitive dissonance between self's actuality and fantasy by turning to hot mouthing on internet foras hoping that maybe somebody, anybody would be fooled into not recognising their fickle existence, even if for a fleeting moment. It's quite entertaining.

Regardless, only an imbecile who has nothing to show for himself would think anything bad of a man earning an honest living by washing dishes, or anything else, in anyone's establishment...one who's never stepped outside the 2 bit sized misery that he calls his life and one who uses the internet anonymity to feel better about himself and his kind. For all those Indians, and Pakistanis for that matter, whom I see working 10 hour days 6 days a week washing dishes, driving taxis, cleaning malls and performing security guard duties in -35 all through the night have nothing but respect from me, may their futures bring them boundless success. Since you see, unlike you, they aren't moronic, inconsequential, amount to nothing, worth nothing internet wannabees who haven't even a thought that's worth something.



How about Mr. Patel who owns,

https://www.yelp.ca/biz/rubys-kitchen-regina

Or Mr. Ashwani who runs,

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=pakistani restaurant in regina&tbs=lf_msr:-1,lf_od:-1,lf_oh:-1,lf:1,lf_ui:9,lf_pqs:EAE&rflfq=1&rlha=0&rllag=50432263,-104602128,3270&tbm=lcl&rldimm=6260206370658838962

Feel free to contact them.

Furthermore, pretty much all "desi" restaurants abroad offer both Pakistani and Indian cuisine irrespective of what's the nationality of the owner. One of the reasons why I am yet to see an "Indian restaurant" which does not exclusively use halal meat in their dishes, at least in this country. But how would you know that, having never stepped outside the 3 block radius from your house?



Can anyone help me out with the "documentation" this guy is claiming that he provided in his post that I quoted? See below,






I'm guessing you're a post graduate student at one of the Ivy League Unis? If not then I've got news for you, lol. This isn't your average household sitting where you can say and claim whatever that you fancy.

@WAJsal sup? Someone here's using this forum as an escape.

Indian restaurants here are mostly Indian Punjabi owned and they don't serve halaal meat mostly because of religious restrictions of Sikhism. I know because of going out to lunch with Pakistani friends. However Pakistani restaurants using the word Indian has nothing to do with being ashamed of being Pakistani. India is a bigger country and people are more likely to search for Indian food on Yelp etc than other cuisines from subcontinent. It's a purely business decision and Pakistanis in my experience are way more patriotic and proud of their heritage than the average Indian.

 

[krash]

Indian restaurants here are mostly Indian Punjabi owned and they don't serve halaal meat mostly because of religious restrictions of Sikhism. I know because of going out to lunch with Pakistani friends.

Could very well be. Sardars here though seldom own restaurants. I've never had trouble finding halal food in an Indian restaurant in Toronto, Waterloo, Kitchener, Calgary or Regina. Especially in Mississauga since there's a sizeable population of Muslims around.

However Pakistani restaurants using the word Indian has nothing to do with being ashamed of being Pakistani. India is a bigger country and people are more likely to search for Indian food on Yelp etc than other cuisines from subcontinent. It's a purely business decision

Our Indian friend here cannot understand that, since this is exactly the kind of juvenile, inconsequential point scoring that lets him live through the day.

and Pakistanis in my experience are way more patriotic and proud of their heritage than the average Indian.

uh oh.......

 

[Vishvamitra]

Sigh......must you Indians always amply demonstrate the stupidity which is rampant within your kind? If I was washing those dishes, I'd be damned proud of it. But then we have examples such as you who, in their self-realisation of worthless existence and a burdensome life, pathetically and desperately attempt at reconciling their cognitive dissonance between self's actuality and fantasy by turning to hot mouthing on internet foras hoping that maybe somebody, anybody would be fooled into not recognising their fickle existence, even if for a fleeting moment. It's quite entertaining.

Regardless, only an imbecile who has nothing to show for himself would think anything bad of a man earning an honest living by washing dishes, or anything else, in anyone's establishment...one who's never stepped outside the 2 bit sized misery that he calls his life and one who uses the internet anonymity to feel better about himself and his kind. For all those Indians, and Pakistanis for that matter, whom I see working 10 hour days 6 days a week washing dishes, driving taxis, cleaning malls and performing security guard duties in -35 all through the night have nothing but respect from me, may their futures bring them boundless success. Since you see, unlike you, they aren't moronic, inconsequential, amount to nothing, worth nothing internet wannabees who haven't even a thought that's worth something.



How about Mr. Patel who owns,

https://www.yelp.ca/biz/rubys-kitchen-regina

Or Mr. Ashwani who runs,

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=pakistani restaurant in regina&tbs=lf_msr:-1,lf_od:-1,lf_oh:-1,lf:1,lf_ui:9,lf_pqs:EAE&rflfq=1&rlha=0&rllag=50432263,-104602128,3270&tbm=lcl&rldimm=6260206370658838962

Feel free to contact them.

Furthermore, pretty much all "desi" restaurants abroad offer both Pakistani and Indian cuisine irrespective of what's the nationality of the owner. One of the reasons why I am yet to see an "Indian restaurant" which does not exclusively use halal meat in their dishes, at least in this country. But how would you know that, having never stepped outside the 3 block radius from your house?



Can anyone help me out with the "documentation" this guy is claiming that he provided in his post that I quoted? See below,






I'm guessing you're a post graduate student at one of the Ivy League Unis? If not then I've got news for you, lol. This isn't your average household sitting where you can say and claim whatever that you fancy.

@WAJsal sup? Someone here's using this forum as an escape.

Those are most likely gujaratis, They can sell shit to people and make profit from it.

Nothing Is funnier that watching ond. Of the most pro hindutwa people selling Halal Food

 

[Jackdaws]

Sigh......must you Indians always amply demonstrate the stupidity which is rampant within your kind? If I was washing those dishes, I'd be damned proud of it. But then we have examples such as you who, in their self-realisation of worthless existence and a burdensome life, pathetically and desperately attempt at reconciling their cognitive dissonance between self's actuality and fantasy by turning to hot mouthing on internet foras hoping that maybe somebody, anybody would be fooled into not recognising their fickle existence, even if for a fleeting moment. It's quite entertaining.

Regardless, only an imbecile who has nothing to show for himself would think anything bad of a man earning an honest living by washing dishes, or anything else, in anyone's establishment...one who's never stepped outside the 2 bit sized misery that he calls his life and one who uses the internet anonymity to feel better about himself and his kind. For all those Indians, and Pakistanis for that matter, whom I see working 10 hour days 6 days a week washing dishes, driving taxis, cleaning malls and performing security guard duties in -35 all through the night have nothing but respect from me, may their futures bring them boundless success. Since you see, unlike you, they aren't moronic, inconsequential, amount to nothing, worth nothing internet wannabees who haven't even a thought that's worth something.



How about Mr. Patel who owns,

https://www.yelp.ca/biz/rubys-kitchen-regina

Or Mr. Ashwani who runs,

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=pakistani restaurant in regina&tbs=lf_msr:-1,lf_od:-1,lf_oh:-1,lf:1,lf_ui:9,lf_pqs:EAE&rflfq=1&rlha=0&rllag=50432263,-104602128,3270&tbm=lcl&rldimm=6260206370658838962

Feel free to contact them.

Furthermore, pretty much all "desi" restaurants abroad offer both Pakistani and Indian cuisine irrespective of what's the nationality of the owner. One of the reasons why I am yet to see an "Indian restaurant" which does not exclusively use halal meat in their dishes, at least in this country. But how would you know that, having never stepped outside the 3 block radius from your house?



Can anyone help me out with the "documentation" this guy is claiming that he provided in his post that I quoted? See below,






I'm guessing you're a post graduate student at one of the Ivy League Unis? If not then I've got news for you, lol. This isn't your average household sitting where you can say and claim whatever that you fancy.

@WAJsal sup? Someone here's using this forum as an escape.

Thanks for your long winded post. I am sure it makes you feel better about your miserable existence after venting through a bout of verbal diarrhea. Also, I thank you for posting a broken link and another one for a restaurant named "Ruby's Kitchen" which you claim is owned by a certain Mr. Patel. On closer inspection, it seems the owner of that restaurant proudly claims to be from Karachi, Pakistan.

Www.rubyskitchen.ca/mobile

Now instead of venting and feeling frustrated, get a life and an education and know the difference between fact and fiction.

This is one of the popular Indian restaurants in sydney, and as you can see they Market themselves as Indian and Pakistani. I think the owners are from Delhi or Bombay, i can't remember exactly.

https://www.menulog.com.au/curry-at-the-rocks

But there are many more, all of them include other countries like Bangladesh or Sri Lanka to widen their customer base which is a good strategy as the foods are very similar for all these countries.

Apparently not.

http://www.curry.net.au/index.html

Nowhere on their website does the name Pakistan appear.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Apparently not.

http://www.curry.net.au/index.html

Nowhere on their website does the name Pakistan appear.

Ok so they don't have it on this website, but they do on menulog, so what else do you want?

 

[Jackdaws]

Ok so they don't have it on this website, but they do on menulog, so what else do you want?

I don't want anything. I am merely pointing out that I have never come across an Indian owned restsurant anywhere in the world which markets itself as peddling "Pakistani" cuisine. What a third party conduit like Menulog says is irrelevant. On the other hand, almost every Pakistani-owned restaurant I've seen or visited except in very few cases has always marketed itself as peddling "Indian" cuisine.

 

[Imad.Khan]

I don't want anything. I am merely pointing out that I have never come across an Indian owned restsurant anywhere in the world which markets itself as peddling "Pakistani" cuisine. What a third party conduit like Menulog says is irrelevant. On the other hand, almost every Pakistani-owned restaurant I've seen or visited except in very few cases has always marketed itself as peddling "Indian" cuisine.

In Menulog the client ( Restaurant) create the adverts themselves. Also this restaurant has a board outside where it says Sydney's best Indian and Pakistani cuisines and a big sign next to it saying Halal. Anyway its up to you to believe what ever you like, i am not going to be continuing this discussion any further as its not to achieve anything fruitful.

 

[F-Sola]

Indians are so desperate to be associated with us. Poor inferiority complex ridden fools. This makes me cringe.

Lol. Yeh bharatis to hamaray beghar nahi rahay saktay.

 

[F-Sola]

This is a pointless thread man. We Pakistanis want nothing to do with bharatis. That is why we separated from them.

 

[F-Sola]

They look like south Asians

especially to the world

But they still don't look like Indians.

 

[F-Sola]

Yeah definitely...

Lol fourth Indo-Pakistan war took place in London.

 

[F-Sola]

Thats their North East not North West




I had a similar experience here in Australia, on my first day at univ, i saw 2 groups of Indian students, i introduced myself to the group closest to me and asked them if they were Indians, they replied that they are South Indians (emphasized on South), I replied that last time i checked it was still one country so why did u say south Indian, they told me its complicated and left it at that. Later on i got friendly with the other group that consisted mostly of gujratis and punjabis and they told me to stay away from south indians. i asked them the same question and they also said its complicated. In all my time at univ i never saw those 2 groups even mingle together. They both preferred to speak to me ( a Pakistani guy ) instead of each other.

Lol wow. You should have played them against each other and SAT back and watched [emoji38]