It's perfectly logical to blame Pakistan for provoking border incidents. It is not an undeserved prejudice. It may be unfair to do so but it is not, given the record, unjust.
No, I don't grasp your logic here: "It's an old conflict so you can't blame reputation". That doesn't make sense: it's an old and continuing conflict and there's no evidence nor reason to think that Pakistani military leaders' command, motivation, and methods have changed.
Democracy isn't about choosing princes but about holding leaders to account. I don't think Pakistanis grasp that very well but I think that realization is growing, don't you agree?
I think the Turks and Egyptians here have some things to say about that.
I'm suspicious of the Indians, too. But I'm also aware of the standard Pakistani response, "You can't blame us, you have no proof!" - which implies that the Pakistani mind-set is that as long as no proof exists Pakistan should be allowed to get away with it and no Pakistani will ever investigate such matters. Contrast that with the Indian approach of investigating recent alleged border incidents with China: the ground incursions were real but the airspace violations were mythical and the fault was Indian for riling up tensions.
I'm doing my best but I can't, in showing you the truth, entirely protect you from feeling humiliated. If you're not in the military it isn't your fault, though you should pursue the investigation: if you are in the military, you need to think carefully about whether your loyalty lies with your superiors or with your country. (It can't help that Pakistani soldiers have sworn different oaths depending on what class and year they graduated, as the Supreme Court noticed a year or two back.)
No , the last thing it is ' is being perfectly logical ' . Maybe , you should edit your first post in the thread talking about taking ' sides ' and exhibiting ' bias ' , when all I see is the same in your posts . Given the record , this wont be the first time , the Kashmiris living on this side of the border have been killed by the Indian forces .
What I cant understand is that how the Second Kashmir War is used in a argument to give ' guilty verdict ' to Pakistan . Why bring your ' perceived reputation ' and ' past history ' biases , when you didn't want anyone to automatically believe something without proper investigation ? There's a reason why the methods and thinking of the Pakistani military leadership and common Pakistani hasn't changed , because the others aren't ready to change their aproach .
I know well the concept of democracy . What you dont understand , is the Pakistani politics and the nature and MO's of politicians . Strangely , the realization why the politicals leaders are inept in managing the country and corrupt to the core , is growing very fast , seeing the not-so-fruitful results of two successive democratic regimes now .
Apples and Oranges , there . I talked about military having a certain leash on this ' democracy ' .
Yet I never heard a word against them from you , for reasons quite apparent . You were quite sure from your very first post that Pakistan , without any evidence , is at fault here . Because , until yesterday , Indian defense minister wasn't even sure if it was the ' Pakistan Army ' , he would only get the enlightenment today after the massive uproar at the Parliament . The version has changed three times until then because its strange that PA units move 5 KM inside the other side of the LOC . The same standard response is true for the other side too , not just Pakistan . Doesn't imply nothing , maybe you understand more than there really is , the simple point is bring the proof and then blame anyone . What should Pakistanis investigate there ? How Indians abducted and killed 4 residents of Azad Kashmir and got 5 soldiers killed in retaliation ?
You are doing your best to protect your hypocritical approach towards things , whilst blaming people of ' being biased ' and ' automatically believing things just because their Govt says so ' . Even the politicians are suspicious of the whole episode , despite the Prime Minister not being a big fan of the military . The Supreme Court remarks aren't considered verdicts or orders , I thought you would know that .