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Is it me or the person standing 2nd from right looks like W/C Nauman?
Hmm you, but interesting notion, I wonder what the Indians would say if he really is that guy... Itni na bajao bhai, they are already on the verge of digital suicide, lol. The French must be all ready cursing that they didn't charge India extra extra enough, lol, for all the nervous whining for no reason, lol.
 
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and not just ordinary pilots, if you can call a Pakistani Fighter pilot an ordinary pilot, but fighter instructors to not only train the Qatri pilots but also devise the fighting strategies, so essentially Pakistani pilots already know how to flight and fight and the good and bad of the jet even before it is delivered to India.


The first batch of pilots trained for Qatar in November 2017 were Pakistani exchange officers.

First Rafale Handed Over to Qatar

by Jon Lake
- February 13, 2019, 4:01 AM


VIPs from Qatar and France pose in front of the first Rafale to be handed over. The stylised Arab stallion graphic is the badge of the new Rafale squadron. (Photo: Dassault Aviation)
purchase of 24 Rafales (six of them two-seat trainers) in May 2015. A dozen more aircraft were added to the order in December 2017. Qatar’s Rafales differ in detail from those delivered to France and Egypt, and integration of the Lockheed Martin Sniper targeting pod and Elbit Systems TARGO-II helmet-mounted target designation system required extensive testing.


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Qatar's Rafales are being supplied with a range of advanced weaponry, along with the Sniper advanced targeting pod. (Photo: Dassault Aviation)


The first Rafale DQ for Qatar, a two-seater, made its first flight on June 28, 2016, while the single-seat Rafale EQ flew for the first time on March 27, 2017. The aircraft are being supplied with MBDA MICA IR, MICA EM, and Meteor air-to-air missiles and with MBDA SCALP-EG cruise missiles and a range of air-to-ground weapons, including laser- and GPS-guided Safran AASM (Armement Air-Sol Modulaire) Hammer missiles.

Qatari personnel will be trained at Base Aérienne 118 Mont-de-Marsan in southwestern France, Rochefort, and the Joint Intelligence Training Institute in Strasbourg. The first batch of pilots trained for Qatar in November 2017 were Pakistani exchange officers. Escadron de Chasse 04.030 was established at Mont-de-Marsan as the Qatar Rafale Squadron on Oct. 1, 2017. The Amir of Qatar, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al Thani, visited the Qatari Rafale Squadron at Mont-de-Marsan on July 6, 2018, accompanied by French defense minister Florence Parly.

Under the SOUTEX program the Armee de l’Air is training 250 personnel who will man the first Qatari Rafale squadron. This unit will initially be commanded by a French officer until later this year when command will be transferred to a Qatari officer before the unit transfers to Qatar in the summer of 2020.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2019-02-13/first-rafale-handed-over-qatar

and how did they utilized that info in the recent skirmishes? ….aah they lost two planes....


Indian Rafales comes with India specific customization.

Regarding the training, people should know that Singapore Airforce practices with IAF in India often and we also have access to F16's.
 
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Pakistani fighter Pilot already trained with Rafael for almost two years!!!!
Since November 2017 Pakistan airforce exchange officers been training on Rafael which recently been provided to Qatar. Qatar ordered initially 24 rafael with 6 twin seaters and then further added 12 more to complete its 2 squadron requirements.

So our pilots and engineers already trained with Rafael for almost 1.5 years and please don't say why JF 17 Block III might be delayed due to "necessary" specs modification HMS & AAMs to counter Rafael. I wonder when pakistan & its armed forces will end the "surprise" element from indians mindset.


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As feeku Modi said "outcome would have been different if Indian have Rafael" so chai wala chokidar, we exactly know what would be the outcome. So baby don't give us the story of Indian version of Rafael are customized version suite for indian needs as we heard the same stories for S 300 which russians provided for customized indian needs and they won't identify b/w a foe & friend bird and in result shot down its own MI 17.

The first Dassault Rafale for Qatar was ceremonially handed over at Dassault’s Merignac facility on Feb. 6, 2019. The ceremony was attended by a host of VIPs, including Qatar’s Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of State for Defence Affairs, HE Dr Khalid bin Mohamed al-Attiyah, Qatar's Ambassador to France, Sheikh Ali bin Jassim al-Thani,

Staff Major General (Pilot) Mubarak bin Mohamed Al Khayareen, Commander of the Qatar Amiri Air Force, and Staff Brigadier General (Engineer Air) Mohamed Mubarak al-Shahwani, as well as Geneviève Darrieussecq, Secretary of State to the French Minister of the Armed Forces, and Dassault Aviation chairman and CEO, Eric Trappier.

Qatar’s purchase of the Rafale follows on from earlier acquisitions of the Dassault Mirage F1, Alpha Jet, and Mirage 2000. “For the fourth time in our long and trustful partnership with Qatar, a Dassault Aviation aircraft will serve proudly in the Qatari Amiri Air Force,” said Trappier. “This first delivery is the culmination of a relationship started more than 40 years ago and I am very pleased and grateful that once again the State of Qatar has renewed its confidence in our dedication and confirmed not once, but twice, the choice of the Rafale to protect its land and people.”

During the ceremony, the new Qatari Rafale squadron was named "Al Adyiyat" after a Surah in the Koran, and a new squadron badge (a stylised Arab stallion’s head) was unveiled on the Rafale’s tailfin. During their visit, the Qatari Deputy PM and Amiri Air Force commander flew on board an Armée de l’Air Airbus A330 MRTT to watch Qatari Rafale pilots practicing air-to-air refueling.

Qatar signed a €6.3 billion agreement for the purchase of 24 Rafales (six of them two-seat trainers) in May 2015. A dozen more aircraft were added to the order in December 2017. Qatar’s Rafales differ in detail from those delivered to France and Egypt, and integration of the Lockheed Martin Sniper targeting pod and Elbit Systems TARGO-II helmet-mounted target designation system required extensive testing.


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Qatar's Rafales are being supplied with a range of advanced weaponry, along with the Sniper advanced targeting pod. (Photo: Dassault Aviation)


The first Rafale DQ for Qatar, a two-seater, made its first flight on June 28, 2016, while the single-seat Rafale EQ flew for the first time on March 27, 2017. The aircraft are being supplied with MBDA MICA IR, MICA EM, and Meteor air-to-air missiles and with MBDA SCALP-EG cruise missiles and a range of air-to-ground weapons, including laser- and GPS-guided Safran AASM (Armement Air-Sol Modulaire) Hammer missiles.

Qatari personnel will be trained at Base Aérienne 118 Mont-de-Marsan in southwestern France, Rochefort, and the Joint Intelligence Training Institute in Strasbourg. The first batch of pilots trained for Qatar in November 2017 were Pakistani exchange officers. Escadron de Chasse 04.030 was established at Mont-de-Marsan as the Qatar Rafale Squadron on Oct. 1, 2017. The Amir of Qatar, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al Thani, visited the Qatari Rafale Squadron at Mont-de-Marsan on July 6, 2018, accompanied by French defense minister Florence Parly.

Under the SOUTEX program the Armee de l’Air is training 250 personnel who will man the first Qatari Rafale squadron. This unit will initially be commanded by a French officer until later this year when command will be transferred to a Qatari officer before the unit transfers to Qatar in the summer of 2020.



https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2019-02-13/first-rafale-handed-over-qatar

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Knew one pilot there for the M2ks.. but was likely on the F-1 prior to it so it seemed they might have continued the program.
But, exchange pilot seemed odd: usually isn’t it retirees ending up taking the expat job?
I definitely remember reading somewhere that Air Commodore Kaiser Tufail used to fly F1s for Qatar.
 
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Bhai share some sunna hai twitter py roona gaana start ho chuka unka
I am just enjoying Indian reactions on this news on twitter. It's way to much fun to be ignored
 
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Qatar only has 12,000 people in their armed forces. So its highly plausible they rely on friendly nations for certain critical arrangements such as training experienced pilots to train their pilots.
Qatar may not have enough experienced pilots to be eligible for becsoming the trainers on such an expencive and modern jet.

I definitely remember reading somewhere that Air Commodore Kaiser Tufail used to fly F1s for Qatar.
Until 1999 PAF used to fly UAE F-16 fleet for them.
The gulf countries have small militaries with expensive equipment and rely on many foreign countries for training their people.

The nay sayers wont agree...
 
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Qatar only has 12,000 people in their armed forces. So its highly plausible they rely on friendly nations for certain critical arrangements such as training experienced pilots to train their pilots.
Qatar may not have enough experienced pilots to be eligible for becsoming the trainers on such an expencive and modern jet.


Until 1999 PAF used to fly UAE F-16 fleet for them.
The gulf countries have small militaries with expensive equipment and rely on many foreign countries for training their people.

The nay sayers wont agree...
Now they rely on themselves to pilot their planes in the UAE and man their equipment.
 
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yeah..UAE has established their pilots...many other gulf nations havent.
Not many, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, and Oman all mostly have their own pilots. Remember hiring foreign pilots to fly your jets is like hiring mercenaries, they have no loyalty.
 
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