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Pakistani national, Sanaullah attacked in high security central jail

So r u a retard country like america?
i believe yr country is also against facilities like it n the treatment there.

I am nt talking abt retard country .............bt am talking abt int laws....... abt your second line........you have no right to talk abt dis when its proved that pakistani beheading indian soldiers in indiane territory...........
 
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Who said he was a spy? He was a terrorist who was captured.

Besides what is a Pakistani from Daluwali district of Punjab doing in Kashmir in first place..without any documents or visa ?(1)



No his jail time was.. time already served plus 8 yrs (2)



What are you talking about, write in a decipherable language(3)

1) and 3) exactly who said he was a spy or terrorist just india her self.
Neither did he admitted that he was a spy or terrorist nor did anybody from pak said something abt that. Like in sarabjeet sing's case where there is a video of him admitting it n surjeet singh also testified that.

Sarabjit Singh is a terrorist: Surjeet - thenews.com.pk

2) the source u provided and the post u wrote doesnt say that!!!

So yr bollywood script will not work this time.

I am nt talking abt retard country .............bt am talking abt int laws....... abt your second line........you have no right to talk abt dis when its proved that pakistani beheading indian soldiers in indiane territory...........
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Kiddoo where have u came from??
a gutter or something??

It was just yr gov who claimed that its NOT PROVED. I was yr gov who backed off when we said abt UN inquiry which would have proved black n white as she feared for her cake being busted.:rofl:

We have discussed that in depth
 
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1) and 3) exactly who said he was a spy or terrorist just india her self.
Neither did he admitted that he was a spy or terrorist nor did anybody from pak said something abt that. Like in sarabjeet sing's case where there is a video of him admitting it n surjeet singh also testified that.

Sarabjit Singh is a terrorist: Surjeet - thenews.com.pk



2) the source u provided and the post u wrote doesnt say that!!!

So yr bollywood script will not work this time.


So if any other Pakistani claims that you are a terrorist..do "you" become a terrorist??..Is that your logic? :cuckoo:

What are Surjeets singh's qualification ..how does he know Sabrajeet is a terrorist..was he involved in the terrorism act too? What proof does he have to support his allegation?

Besides here is the statement from your key eye witness in Sabarjeet's case..claiming that he was forced by Pakistani Police to give a wrong testimony in court.


 
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ok had ur laugh............bt u noticed one thing pak is also trying to escalate this issue to international level.......even wondered y india didnt did it in sarabjeet case.........or in ladakh incursion case..................i am not surffing this forum only for one reason, u pak start the sentence wid demoralizing word, dnt understood y... cause u r nt decision maker.....if u wanna win den ok u won..........
 
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So if any other Pakistani claims that you are a terrorist..do "you" become a terrorist??..Is that your logic? :cuckoo:

What are Surjeets singh's qualification ..how does he know Sabrajeet is a terrorist..was he involved in the terrorism act too? What proof does he have to support his allegation?

Besides here is the statement from your key eye witness in Sabarjeet's case..claiming that he was forced by Pakistani Police to give a wrong testimony in court.



i know this video i have seen it.But its a fake video its not of a real person who was witness.
Also if forsake of argument we accept it then its just a single witness who withdraws from his statement but there r more authentic proves which show he is a terrorist one is his own comrade saying he is a terrorist.
And there is a video that now a days yr channels r showing in a mute state is the video in which he has admitted that he is a terrorist.

So a logical person will believe this more then some XYZ stuff.
 
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i know this video i have seen it.But its a fake video its not of a real person who was witness.
Also if forsake of argument we accept it then its just a single witness who withdraws from his statement but there r more authentic proves which show he is a terrorist one is his own comrade saying he is a terrorist.
And there is a video that now a days yr channels r showing in a mute state is the video in which he has admitted that he is a terrorist.

So a logical person will believe this more then some XYZ stuff.

Yeah right. Wonder what this drama was all about then.


Poor man, prolly got shafted by the "establishment" for giving interview to the Indian channel.
 
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i know this video i have seen it.But its a fake video its not of a real person who was witness.
Also if forsake of argument we accept it then its just a single witness who withdraws from his statement but there r more authentic proves which show he is a terrorist one is his own comrade saying he is a terrorist.
And there is a video that now a days yr channels r showing in a mute state is the video in which he has admitted that he is a terrorist.

So a logical person will believe this more then some XYZ stuff.

There is simple Question - Why Indian govt. or his family didn't filed petition to re-open case based on this so called prove of his innocence? Why they were doing mercy appeal instead?
 
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i know this video i have seen it.But its a fake video its not of a real person who was witness.
Also if forsake of argument we accept it then its just a single witness who withdraws from his statement but there r more authentic proves which show he is a terrorist one is his own comrade saying he is a terrorist.
And there is a video that now a days yr channels r showing in a mute state is the video in which he has admitted that he is a terrorist.

So a logical person will believe this more then some XYZ stuff.

1. Do you have any evidence to support your claim that. this is not the real witness??

2. If there were authentic evidence proving Sarabjit's guilt,then why did your prosecution need to create a fake witness??
 
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There is simple Question - Why Indian govt. or his family didn't filed petition to re-open case based on this so called prove of his innocence? Why they were doing mercy appeal instead?

Because his statement which was are caught on a camera..is not admissible in court as per Pakistani law.

Apparently as per his own admission ..he was coerced by Pakistani police into giving false testimony once..what makes you think ..they will let him speak the truth this time.

And lastly why would he perjure himself ..by signing a sworn statement that he lied in court the first time?
 
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Guys, let's take a step back for a second.

100% of the bharati spies that we've released have admitted, as soon as they landed in bharat, that they were spies. A 100% slate. We all remember the spies that we released in the last 5 years specially, those ones are ones we've not forgotten. Most of them had been in Pakistani jails for a decade or two. ALL of them admitted they were spies as soon as they landed in bharat.

While not confirming that Sarabjit was a spy, it does make it more likely that he is a spy then him not being one. Our record speaks for itself. It's good that we did not release him.

1. Do you have any evidence to support your claim that. this is not the real witness??

2. If there were authentic evidence proving Sarabjit's guilt,then why did your prosecution need to create a fake witness??

The onus of your first question is on you -- YOU have to show that he is the real witness. Burden of proof stands on you here. And don't try to divert my question this time, you do that ALL the time someone asks you a question.

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Here are some of the innocent bharatis we released (or at least they'd be innocent, if we were to ask the bharatis on this forum):
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Yeah right. Wonder what this drama was all about then.


Poor man, prolly got shafted by the "establishment" for giving interview to the Indian channel.

Again, the person was NOT a witness in the trial. So this video is a fake and irrelevant.
 
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Guys, let's take a step back for a second.

100% of the bharati spies that we've released have admitted, as soon as they landed in bharat, that they were spies. A 100% slate. We all remember the spies that we released in the last 5 years specially, those ones are ones we've not forgotten. Most of them had been in Pakistani jails for a decade or two. ALL of them admitted they were spies as soon as they landed in bharat.

While not confirming that Sarabjit was a spy, it does make it more likely that he is a spy then him not being one. Our record speaks for itself. It's good that we did not release him.



The onus of your first question is on you -- YOU have to show that he is the real witness. Burden of proof stands on you here. And don't try to divert my question this time, you do that ALL the time someone asks you a question.

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Here are some of the innocent bharatis we released (or at least they'd be innocent, if we were to ask the bharatis on this forum):
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Arguments for releasing death row prisoner in Pakistan Sarabjit Singh swings in his favour as a key witness Shaukat Salim is caught on tape retracting his statement.


Meanwhile, Sarabjit's lawyer Abdul Rana Hamid told CNN-IBN that Salim's statements have no value as they were never recorded in court.
“Salim’s statements cannot be considered as they were not made in court. Sarabjit’s mercy petition is pending before the Pakistan President. It is being considered sympathetically and the Pakistan government does have a policy of reducing death sentence to life imprisonment," Hamid said.

Sarabjit case: Key witness retracts statement

Besides since you are so big on onus of proof ..so why don't you show us what proof do you have against Sarabjit?
 
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Sarabjit case: Key witness retracts statement

Besides since you are so big on onus of proof ..so why don't you show us what proof do you have against Sarabjit?

Your link is a rehash of what you already said, that the fake "witness" was coerced into calling sarabjit guilty.

My proof is already there for everyone to see - the admission of guilt from the prisoner.
 
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Your link is a rehash of what you already said, that the fake "witness" was coerced into calling sarabjit guilty.

My proof is already there for everyone to see - the admission of guilt from the prisoner.

Again your record is still stuck on 'Fake' even when I showed you a direct quote from his Pakistani lawyer referring to this witness by name.
Wouldn't his Pakistani lawyer who had been dealing with witnesses the case for long time, realize if the witness being shown in the video was a fake.

Besides he and his lawyer claim that his confession was taken under duress.
 
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Prison attacks: Sanaullah declared

ISLAMABAD: Sanaullah Haq, a Pakistani prisoner, who was hit with a sharp weapon in a Jammu jail on Friday, has been declared ‘brain dead’ by the Indian doctors, the foreign ministry spokesperson said on Sunday.

“The wounded prisoner remains in critical condition. He is brain dead but vitals are functioning with the help of medication,” the Foreign Office spokesperson Aizaz Ahmed Chaudhry told The Express Tribune.

Chaudhry said officials from Pakistan High Commission visited Sanaullah Ranjay in Chandigarh hospital for the second time on Sunday and were informed by doctors that chances of his survival are “very slim.”

Pakistan’s High Commissioner to India Salman Bashir also plans to travel to Chandigarh to inquire about the health of Sanaullah.

“Our High Commissioner will visit Chandigarh once the Indian authorities give him formal permission.”

Sanaullah, a resident of Sialkot, was attacked by a former Indian soldier convicted for murder in Jammu’s Kot Bhalwal jail. Pakistan is exploring the possibilities of taking Sanaullah’s family members – two 15 and 18-year-old sons – to India and evacuating him back for better medical treatment.

A foreign office official said that the sons cannot travel to India because they still don’t have national identity cards made.

“His (Sanaullah) brother-in-law will now go to India,” the official added.

The ministry spokesperson also confirmed to The Express Tribune that Pakistan has demanded release of 47 Pakistani prisoners in India who have already completed their prison terms. The Pakistan’s High Commissioner to India has written a letter to Indian foreign secretary in this regard, he added.

The letter also demands Indian government to take appropriate steps for the security of Pakistani prisoners in Indian jails.

Amnesty International also issued a formal statement demanding both India and Pakistan to take immediate steps to ensure security of prisoners, reported Times of India.

“Both Indian and Pakistani authorities must take prompt and concrete steps to ensure that prisoners do not face any further attacks,” said director of Amnesty International India, Shashikumar Velath.

Security beefed up in prisons

Security in and around all cells of foreign convicts especially Indian civil convicts has been doubled across the jails of Punjab province of Pakistan.

Inspector General of Prisons Punjab Mian Farooq Nazeer in an interview with APP on Sunday said that on the special directive of the caretaker chief minister of the province, foolproof security arrangements have been put in place in all 32 jails with the deployment of special contingents equipped with sophisticated weapons.

All superintendents of jails have also been directed to submit a security inspection report daily to DIG and IG of the prison. Similarly, fearing backlash following death of Sarabjit Singh, Pakistani prisoners in the jails of Indian state of Punjab have been segregated from other prisoners, the Press Trust of India reported on Sunday.

All superintendents of the central jails of the state have been ordered to shift the 57 Pakistani inmates, including two women, to side barracks and not to allow any interaction with Indian prisoners. Also Pakistani prisoners will not be permitted to leave their barracks till further notice.

The jail officials have also been directed to check the food provided to Pakistani inmates and to supply it in person.

Published in The Express Tribune, May 6th, 2013.
 
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