Pakistani Militry knows India is preparing for a war - Haroon Rasheed

[Luca1]

we can digest your 110 neuclear warhead but you will finish with just 50. got it.

can you tell me more than 50 cities of pakistan.

This is the kind of sick mentality that will destroy humanity.

compare with yourself with not russia, after 10 indian thermoneuclear burst in pkistan, nobody in pakistan will remain to further push button on war head.
on the other hand india have space capabilities, very good anti ballastic missils system, SU 30 mki sky dominance figthters, a great navy, long range agni i-v missiles. our delivery system is robust comparing to Pakistan.

India has no thermonuclear warheads. It has Hiroshima size atom bomb. Indian h bomb test was a dud.

 

[mpk1988]

Another day another stupid theory and debate.
Not only is India ever going to initiate a war, we now that this is the usual drama for political mileage and standing of certain sections of the social strata and military.

Just Junk..

Another day another stupid theory and debate.
Not only is India ever going to initiate a war, we now that this is the usual drama for political mileage and standing of certain sections of the social strata and military.

Just Junk..

 

[graphican]

Anybody in the forum willing to put an intellectual and counter analysis?

Denying or trolling is not a counter argument. Weather Haroon ul Rasheed has said this first time or 4th time, point is if he is talking sense.

 

[Zarvan]

Watch 9:00 minutes onwards.

Extract:

• Pakistani military knows that India is preparing for a war
• India had attempted this several times before, including in 1987, 1989 and 2001 and they are itching for it again.

I cannot agree more with this analysis. It is in India's best interest to initiate a war and cut off Pakistan from the China and also create a link to the west and central asia by extending its border to Afghanistan. This will also put a full-stop to Kashmir libation movement and enable India to expand in region and economy.

Attacking Pakistan was a soft wish until China and Pakistan went under strategic Economic Corridor which will enable china to encircle India. With Pakistan becoming Chinese economic hi-way, Chinese stake in Pakistan will be too high to let India do any misadventure in future. So more India delays, the most expensive it would become to attack Pakistan.

Secondly, Pakistan's own economy is back on track. National reserves are going up, stock markets are performing and international investors are willing to pump money in. A prospering Pakistan will first eat a share of potential Indian growth but it will also make Pakistan militarily more stable, stronger and challenging. SO more you delay, the more challenging Pakistan would be.

Thirdtly; Pakistan is seen supporting Kashmiris, Sikhs and other libation moments in India on an unprecedented scale to avenge what it went through. "Punishing" Pakistan before it punishes India is the right way to go.

Forth; Pakistan is a "too big of a country" as compared to other Indian neighbours (except China) and India has managed other small countries well because they cannot stand as challenge. Pakistan keeps popping up in India's way and challenges its hegemony, a smaller Pakistan will be more acceptable neighbour.

India has lost its covert war against Pakistan; in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Pakistan's terrorism problem is down the drain. In the absence of covert controllable arm, India cannot gain any ground indirectly, leaving option for more direction operations when required.

Most of the reasons existed before but their intensity has increased in the last 12-18 months. The tipping point is Economic Corridor and Chinese rain of investment which is going to change landscape of this area - all worse for India. Strategically, it is in India's best interest to undergo a war and gain grounds before it is too late. Repercussion of delaying are not "lost opportunity of attack" but equally an "increased threat" from its opponent - Pakistan.

This is my analysis but Allah knows the best.

I fully agree with you and it's time to tell India time has changed and if they want war we are more than pleased to give them one.

 

[graphican]

I fully agree with you and it's time to tell India time has changed and if they want war we are more than pleased to give them one.

Thinking through Indian brain and observing the strategic chess-board, it is in India's best interest to undergo a war with Pakistan in some 12 months time-frame. India wouldn't want to delay it any further.

But Allah knows the best.

 

[Hussain Farooqui]

Anybody in the forum willing to put an intellectual and counter analysis?

Denying or trolling is not a counter argument. Weather Haroon ul Rasheed has said this first time or 4th time, point is if he is talking sense.

The expert defense analysts like Col. Mehdi or Lt. Gen. Talat Masood can put a realistic light on this topic. .

 

[banvanaxl]

I'll give you intellectual,

Let me pepper some holes into your "analysis" for starters.

Watch 9:00 minutes onwards.

• Pakistani military knows that India is preparing for a war
• India had attempted this several times before, including in 1987, 1989 and 2001 and they are itching for it again.

I cannot agree more with this analysis. It is in India's best interest to initiate a war and cut off Pakistan from the China and also create a link to the west and central asia by extending its border to Afghanistan. This will also put a full-stop to Kashmir libation movement and enable India to expand in region and economy.

Attacking Pakistan was a soft wish until China and Pakistan went under strategic Economic Corridor which will enable china to encircle India. With Pakistan becoming Chinese economic hi-way, Chinese stake in Pakistan will be too high to let India do any misadventure in future. So more India delays, the most expensive it would become to attack Pakistan.

Soft wish how? Did Mr. Modi send a dossier for your eyes only to that effect?

You are going to argue that there has been rhetoric and warmongering from our leadership to which I will point out that everybody from the late Mr. Hamid Gul to your ex President Mr. Musharaff threatened to press the nuclear button every other week.
We can argue that our very existence is at stake as long as Pakistan possesses nuclear weapons and we need to take appropaite actions in order to ensure ou safety.

Shall we take those threats seriously?

We maintain that AJK and GB are an integral part of India just like you maintain that "Kashmir Banega Pakistan"

The only difference is YOU WENT TO WAR (refer to Op Grandslam) over Kashmir. We did not.

We have always wanted peace and sanctity within our borders. Yes, we will wage war if that is impinged upon. However we WILL NOT wage war because we have "hegemonic" designs. There is historic evidence to back this up.

Secondly, Pakistan's own economy is back on track. National reserves are going up, stock markets are performing and international investors are willing to pump money in. A prospering Pakistan will first eat a share of potential Indian growth but it will also make Pakistan militarily more stable, stronger and challenging. SO more you delay, the more challenging Pakistan would be.

That is nothing if not moronic. We want, well let me repharse that. We need Pakistan to prosper. A prosperous Pakistan translates into lesser number of fodder for the "Jihadi Tasleems" that plague this region. A prosperous Pakistan translates that you will have more to loose if you choose to wage war. Prosperity is the easiest and most painless way to guarantee peace within our time.

Thirdtly; Pakistan is seen supporting Kashmiris, Sikhs and other libation moments in India on an unprecedented scale to avenge what it went through. "Punishing" Pakistan before it punishes India is the right way to go.

Pakistanis can keep supporting Kashmiris till kingdom come. We will keep slaughtering your hired goons till eternity. As far as other "liberation" movements are concerned, they are all extinct or on the verge of extinction. Case to the point, the Naxalite movement. We pound them to dust whenever those rats surface. We are happy with the satus quo. We invite you to support proxies, we will supoort our own. There is no frigging need to wage war for the same.

Forth; Pakistan is a "too big of a country" as compared to other Indian neighbours (except China) and India has managed other small countries well because they cannot stand as challenge. Pakistan keeps popping up in India's way and challenges its hegemony, a smaller Pakistan will be more acceptable neighbour.

Again, rhetoric. We are happy with our gains /losses. Come to the table ad propose turning the LOC into the IB. We could talk. Demand Kashmir, we will walk. We do not have ambitions for further territorial gain. However we wll not let any tom, dick or harry come and demand an inch of our territory. Pakistan can become the next US of A for all we care. We write our own destiny, you write yours.

India has lost its covert war against Pakistan; in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Pakistan's terrorism problem is down the drain. In the absence of covert controllable arm, India cannot gain any ground indirectly, leaving option for more direction operations when required.

Refer to point above

Most of the reasons existed before but their intensity has increased in the last 12-18 months. The tipping point is Economic Corridor and Chinese rain of investment which is going to change landscape of this area - all worse for India. Strategically, it is in India's best interest to undergo a war and gain grounds before it is too late. Repercussion of delaying are not "lost opportunity of attack" but equally an "increased threat" from its opponent - Pakistan.

Refer to point no. 2

 

[Xenophon]

I dnt think so . india wont get any ground in war but it will surely collapse india's economy and CPEC project wont stop + high possibility of Chinese interference .do you think CHINA AND PAKISTAN are idiots to pass the corridor near indian border ? of course they have sort of counter strategies in case of any indian misadventure. if only China moves its army to the indian border it will bring india in a defensive position from all fronts .

 

[Zarvan]

Thinking through Indian brain and observing the strategic chess-board, it is in India's best interest to undergo a war with Pakistan in some 12 months time-frame. India wouldn't want to delay it any further.

But Allah knows the best.

I know we need to be prepared may be lease some more Fighter Jets from China and also other weapons

 

[Pulsar]

The most idiotic thread I've read on PDF!

@graphican, I think you can do better than this! You remind me of Zaid Hamid!

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Just like start button on some video game console?

with people like you around, the world will eventually come down to that

 

[Roybot]

Thinking through Indian brain and observing the strategic chess-board, it is in India's best interest to undergo a war with Pakistan in some 12 months time-frame. India wouldn't want to delay it any further.

But Allah knows the best.

As a counter, maybe its Pakistan which is getting restless and wants a war? India continues to grow at a good pace, its basically adding one Pakistan to its GDP every year give or take, so before the gap between the two becomes too big, Pakistan wants to have a last crack at gaining Kashmir militarily?

If Pakistan couldn't take Kashmir from India in 1965, when India was at its weakest, what are the chances that Pakistan will be able to take Kashmir from India when India becomes a 5 Trillion dollar economy, ten times the size of Pakistan in some 5-6 years from now?

So its basically now or never of Pakistan. The 15 or so years that Pakistan lost focus due to the "WOT" has really given India the chance to run away and now there is no match between the two as far as conventional military strength is concerned.

 

[GURU DUTT]

As a counter, maybe its Pakistan which is getting restless and wants a war? India continues to grow at a good pace, its basically adding one Pakistan to its GDP every year give or take, so before the gap between the two becomes too big, Pakistan wants to have a last crack at gaining Kashmir militarily?

If Pakistan couldn't take Kashmir from India in 1965, when India was at its weakest, what are the chances that Pakistan will be able to take Kashmir from India when India becomes a 5 Trillion dollar economy, ten times the size of Pakistan in some 5-6 years from now?

So its basically now or never of Pakistan. The 15 or so years that Pakistan lost focus due to the "WOT" has really given India the chance to run away and now there is no match between the two as far as conventional military strength is concerned.

thing is they are behaving like over smart bullies who is agitated after getting insulted by a bigger bully but cant do anything against the bigger bully so is trying to blackmail that bigger bully by pointing a loaded neuklear gun towards his own head

 

[Makaramarma]

while indians having their national drink .


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Why are you worried about Indian national drink ? you should be more worried about how much kilo of grass your family will be served this month so that the Punjabi officers of the PA can eat kabbab

 

[mrwarrior006]

And Yet ll the wars till now have been started by Pakistan.