Pakistani man one of two 'accomplices' charged in Paris attacks

[third eye]

Yes, indeed. great book.

Presumptions? From the group orgy here you would think this guy has already been judged guilty.

He has not been arrested by The Punjab Police.

Standards of policing are diff iin the west. Wrongful arrests have implications.

He obviously is not guilty yet but in the same way he is not a ' poor guy' yet.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

We are your Goldstein.

And is that you in the DP?

 

[Jai.Singh]

It's high time Pakistani society wakes up from the deep slumber and introspect why all roads to terror cross through Pakistan?

 

[Śakra]

And is that you in the DP?

Sorry not into old guys

 

[Indus Pakistan]

He has not been arrested by The Punjab Police.

I know that but trust me on this. When crap hit's the fan Police like anywhere in the world come under massive pressure. And then they start herding everybody. Everybody who has the "wrong look". You should read what happened in Macedonia. They actually murdered some Pakistani's as suspected "terrorists". It was shoot first ask later. Don't forget as late as 1940s many of these countries were totalitatian dictatorships which murdered millions of innocents. It took USA, UK to bring law, order and liberty. It is not therefore deeply ingrained.

I don't place much on the European policing structures. They are marginally better off then Punjab Police. Most are rooted in military cultures or are offshoots of military institutions. Further civil liberties are not as grounded as in say UK. Even in UK we had gross miscarriages of justice with many Irish being arrested, locked up for crimes they never did. One example is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_the_Father_(film).

So let us hold our fire until this guy get's at least hearing in the court before judging entire nation.

Sorry not into old guys

Sorry I am into young girls.

why all roads to terror cross through Pakistan?

Unfortunately there is some truth to that. The primary reason is failure by Pakistani state to create Pakistani citizens. Instead it created "Muslim citizens". And you see the result.

 

[Śakra]

Sorry I am into young girls.

Don't quote me again, creep.

 

[Kathin_Singh]

Unfortunately there is some truth to that. The primary reason is failure by Pakistani state to create Pakistani citizens. Instead it created "Muslim citizens". And you see the result.

What did you expect when you created a country in name of a religion?

Maulana Azaad had told you that in 1947.Didn't he?

 

[third eye]

Unfortunately there is some truth to that. The primary reason is failure by Pakistani state to create Pakistani citizens. Instead it created "Muslim citizens". And you see the result.

Appreciate your sane analysis.

So let us hold our fire until this guy get's at least hearing in the court before judging entire nation.

Agreed.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

What did you expect when you created a country in name of a religion?

No more than making a country out of carcass bequethed by a imperial power. Britain. With the said animal (British India) having been raised on healthy dose of imperial; greed, lust for power. Why else do you think Britain made India for? Need I remind you of "Make India" by East India Company. And before you start singing about the fact that the company was called "India" slow down. It was no more than a geographical denominator. Even the Dutch had a East India company only it built up Indonesia out of the Sumatran archipelago.

Bottom line. Religion made Pakistan. Greed made British India. Ask General Napier when he annexed Sindh, was he doing that a as project to Make India or was it greed that drove him? Ditto for Punjab annexation in 1849. You guy's are quick to jump on the reasons for the divorce in 1947 but conveniently overlook the shotgun marriages of 1843 (Sindh) and 1849 (Punjab). Without these exemplars of British greed and annexation at the cost of British blood there would have been no need of the 1947 partition.

Maulana Azaad had told you that in 1947.Didn't he?

It is not about being told. The failure happened afterwards in how the state evolved. From about 1949 to about 1979. If Pak had been blessed with real statesmen things could have turned differant.

If you look at every country there will be a accident or historical circumstance behind it's existance. Saudia is simply greed of Saud family. India is greed of East India Company.USA was taxation without representation and if you want to reduce it even more - tea. Canada? No idea frankly. They just drew a straight line and called it a border with USA. Ireland? Well they wanted to retain funny English accent I guess. Oman, UAE, KSA, Yeman, Iraq, Syria etc. I have no idea. That is like getting Uttar Pradesh and dividing the districts into countries although I think even then those districts would have more population.

And exactly why is Nepal not part of India? Historical circumstance? Coming back to Pakistan, I think at the top they realize this now, but after 60 years of feeding the population religion it will take another half century to change course.

 

[Maler]

He has not been arrested by The Punjab Police.

Standards of policing are diff iin the west. Wrongful arrests have implications.

He obviously is not guilty yet but in the same way he is not a ' poor guy' yet.

Actually, these so called 'Moderate Muslims' or Pseudo secular Muslims (specially Pakistanis) are the worst kind to promote terrorism. They are work as a first line of defense for extremists and defend them on every platform i.e. in media, social media etc. Their pet quotes, 'Its a conspiracy against Muslims', 'It is due to the west's policies', 'Its blow back of ME or Afghanistan' and when everything fails, then their last resort & star quote is 'He is not a Muslim'.

 

[Donald Trump]

LeT? And we're supposed to be surprised? I don't know why the West is crap scared of slapping sanctions against Pakistan for allowing these snakes to breed with the tacit support from the Establishment. When is the world going to wake up?

 

[mike2000 is back]

Don't quote me again, creep.

I'm young though mademoiselle.