Pakistani FM Hina Rabbani avoids Bangladeshi FM Momen’s call to seek apology for 1971 genocide at Colombo

[Maula Jatt]

We have even 2 million Bangladeshis and 1 million rohingyas.
You might aswell take a few to your house, sala e Bengal.

And This time it's for @Srinivas's bumhole

 

[Destranator]

PS: Hina Rabbani is not Pak FM, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari is

Pakistan should apologise to the entire world for such injustice.

 

[UKBengali]

dude enough with chest thumping ... you just needed IMF

BD does not have false pride and went to them as a precaution. It's economy is still in a fragile condition without the economic complexity that it should attain by 2030 with a more diversified export basket. Covid-19 and the war in Ukraine would test a lot more wealthier countries than BD.

It's economy is still powering ahead at 6% per capita growth - Pakistan managed just 3.5% in the 1980s and that was its best decade.

BD has been free since 1971 to once again slowly regain it's position as one of the richest and most advanced regions on this planet - it does not even bother comparing itself to S Asia anymore and it's GDP per capita nominal is touching 3K US dollars now. Indonesia at 5K nominal is next on it's target list.

It doesn't answer what I raised..

The socalled " dead weight " could have been ejected in a very progressive way.
A confederation later leading to a complete separation. But what held your elite back was greed. Of ruling a much bigger country.
I am not saying pakistani politicians weren't greedy..zulfiqar ali bhutto made his army surrender for his greed to completely rule the west wing and hit the last nail in coffin.

I will be honest, even though it may sting some here.

BD historically use to rule the whole region around it and that was Bengal sultunate. That is it's natural consumer and resource market.

India has basically given away these regions to BD's economy as it cannot develop them without BD. W Bengal and NE States will be pulled into BD economic orbit by the 2030s, along with Nepal and Bhutan. Politically they will not be part of BD but they will all be BD's economic backwater within as little as a decade.

Pakistan has no real economic or even strategic use for BD as it is so far away and has India in the middle.

No offence but there is absolutely nothing for BD to again and all to lose by being part of Pakistan.

 

[Chute]

Did you read the posts on this thread?

Who is belittleing who?

Who is accepting what?

As for midget malnourished Bengalis....watch your mouth.

Not all of us are like that.

And even if so, what does that have anything to do with anything?

Just further evidence of the misplaced arrogance coming from you lot.

I hate argueing with fellow muslims so I will leave it at that.

Very ironic, your post and signature.

Think about that.

This is just one thread again in long line of threads like it before.

Same things get said and hurled on each other.

If you ask me, what is point of starting such thread knowing what is going to happen? That was during era of even more active moderating etc compared to now where things left to whither on vine in laissez faire toxicity....so might becomes right inevitably (w.r.t who has more members from narrative A compared to B essentially).

The history of such threads (and what they lead to) is well known to long term BD members here by now surely.

BD members (esp thread starters) here should strive to focus on precise topics of mutual benefit for BD and Pakistan (when they relate to our foreign, economic, cultural, historical relations with them etc).

There are better places to handle all the other conversations we have some fundamental disagreement with the bulk host membership here.

Maybe over time now we can find proper solution rather than trying to cram everything here and whole thing becoming a schadenfreude swim in deep bilge effluent.

 

[kingQamaR]

Whether Pakistan apologises now is not important to either party. BD does not need Pakistan now or ever in the future and Pakistan does not need BD yet.

However when BD has living standards multiple times that of the size of Pakistan in as little as 10-15 years, then Pakistan will be forced to issue a formal and unconditional apology for the events of 1971.

This is not really even about BAL and them playing politics but more about Pakistan facing up to its past and making amends with an apology, as no BD government will be able to resume normal and friendly relations without this apology.

BD's economic superiority in the decades to come will make the apology come, if only due to economic duress on the part of Pakistan.

Pakistan will never apologise…Not in near future. Not saying it’s right or wrong . Being truthful. Better you spend your limited GDP arming yourself against Myanmar possible war. Do not waste your time blabbing on here about comparisons with Pakistan. A country which is 1000 miles away from you.

 

[VkdIndian]

BD sees India as no threat but as a massive opportunity and a key state along with USA and China for it's long term security and economic prosperity.

BD is no-ones "bitch" as you say and in 10-15 years time Bengal and NE States would be no more than BD satellite economies, along with Nepal and Bhutan.

Pragmatic approach.
No need for BD to take bund panga that Paksiatn wants BD to do. Paksiatnis calling BD an Indian bitch, need to do a little self introspection. US and China may ring a bell in their ears.

BD has played its policies well and at one point even told US to not dictate things to them.
BD can become an economic powerhouse by focusing on it’s economy rather than fighting an imaginary adversary in India.

 

[xyxmt]

relax boys our Army is doing the same to West Pakistan now

 

[kingQamaR]

Pragmatic approach.
No need for BD to take bund panga that Paksiatn wants BD to do. Paksiatnis calling BD an Indian bitch, need to do a little self introspection. US and China may ring a bell in their ears.

BD has played its policies well and at one point even told US to not dictate things to them.
BD can become an economic powerhouse by focusing on it’s economy rather than fighting an imaginary adversary in India.

It was a nasty horrible civil war pitting former country men against one another. Bangladeshis died , west Pakistanis died and Biharis died. Apologies all way round , I doubt you Indians will say sorry for your terrorists you sent do killings in their. Bangladeshis could do far better with China than you . At least China is not killing Bangladeshis with border guards or threats of deportation of millions of Bangladeshis nationals.

 

[VkdIndian]

At least China is not killing Bangladeshis with border guards

Hey Genius, they don’t have a common border.

India carried out a military operation in 1971. Military operations and a terrorist operations are quite distinct from each other.
I thought you would know, since Pakistan has tried to use non-state actors as a tool of foreign policy since Zia was your ruler. The result is in front of us. Now don’t blame India for propaganda on this front. Each and every PM or Militray ruler has accepted this aspect.

 

[kingQamaR]

Hey Genius, they don’t have a common border.

India carried out a military operation in 1971. Military operations and a terrorist operations are quite distinct from each other.
I thought you would know, since Pakistan has tried to use non-state actors as a tool of foreign policy since Zia was your ruler. The result is in front of us. Now don’t blame India for propaganda on this front. Each and every PM or Militray ruler has accepted this aspect.

Yes clown , we all know I was just pointing out the difference, we know they do not have a border I was making the point China guards would behave so differently , compared to your trash.

PAK military was fighting separatists and renegades it was PAK territory. And how convenient coming to Dhaka rescue, after cementing spreading trouble in East Pak by sending in your terrorists kill rape murder. You enter against small Pak forces inside there.

Regarding results in Afghanistan have been fantastic we successfully removed to nasty super powers from that country. Zia ul Haq was legend and a l warrior; afghans and Pashtuns are nobody’s proxies you need to educate yourself.

 

[Maula Jatt]

#bihari lives matter, apologize to them first

A bihari member of this forum had all the stories of Bangali crimes against humanity, his own family was the victim of those crimes

Unfortunately now he is perma banned cause he was racist against Pashtuns lol

 

[I.R.A]

There is no apology for rising up against oppression.

You do realise that this so called rising up resulted in killing of many innocents. What kind of oppression were you facing? Were your women and children being sold as slaves? You are happy now that they get sold in india as sex slaves?

After watching bangladeshis now, I realise why it was better not to give them the control, you would have spent all your energies proving you are superior and better than West Pakistan.

The punishment for rebellion against the state is death, you can go ask your bangladeshi molvi about this.

But Pakistanis like you make it difficult to behave in a civil manner.

I know people from our elder generation who to date mourn the division, it saddens them that Pakistan was divided into half, most of us Pakistanis who were born after 1971 have never been taught to hate bangladeshis, most of us wondered why it happened and most of us acknowledged the wrong doings. We don't celebrate Bhutto, Yahya for this, if you really wanted you would have noticed how many Pakistanis curse these two characters.

But on the other hand, bangladeshis crying and being emotional about losing to Pakistan in a petty cricket match, tells you what they have been taught.

Stuck like a broken record.

Shame on your government who every now and then ask for an apology, not because they feel the pain but just to score a point.

Going forward, if bangldeshis keep doing this, I would totally support Pakistani State asking bangladeshis to apologise first for the treason, their rebellion and colluding with an enemy state.

 

[VkdIndian]

I was making the point China guards would behave so differently

Same way, they are behaving with Uyghurs?

Regarding results in Afghanistan have been fantastic

Yes we know, how fantastic it has been. We see it everyday.

PAK military was fighting separatists and renegades it was PAK territory. And how convenient coming to Dhaka rescue, after cementing spreading trouble in East Pak by sending in your terrorists kill rape murder. You enter against small Pak forces inside there.

Please read it again. Because what you have said doesn’t make any sense what so ever.

 

[kingQamaR]

Same way, they are behaving with Uyghurs?

Yes we know, how fantastic it has been. We see it everyday.

Please read it again. Because what you have said doesn’t make any sense what so ever.

Include IOK Kashmiris in your china bashing your crimes inside of Kashmir are just awful

I know what I wrote on East Pak about your lot is accurate. You might not get it everyone else does.

 

[surmabhopali]

it was said with sincerity

That is why World takes pakistan very sincerly .