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Nice tin foil hat sir jiAlso my axe.
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Nice tin foil hat sir jiAlso my axe.
What is "D ground"?D ground
Indira ghandi and her son what happened to them?I'm sure there are no dearth of Mumtaz Qadris in pakistan army .
Prolem with IK is he cant play second fiddle.I just hope that he makes it out Alive.
AmeenProlem with IK is he cant play second fiddle.
I'm too sort of that . I know how difficult it is to play second fiddle even when compensation is best . U feel caged and soon go crazy and also start making mistakes.
Pakistani PM's job which is inherently second fiddle to GHQ will drive IK crazy very soon and loose it's charm on him .
U can hope he doesn't make too many enemies before he goes out his PMship at his lives risk .
Sorry D ChowkWhat is "D ground"?
if they decided to kill him they may kill him and no ssg could save him easily like gen zia killed with presence of all security from army.I said this as soon as I heard PTI was leading. There is direct and immediate threat to his person. A elite security detail has to cover him 24/7. From now on everything including political rallies need extreme security procedures. I don't trust Russians. Advice from Chinese and a unit recruited from SSG needs to be set up ASAP.
No country can be ran without coperation of army. Try run India and go against what the Indian Army holds dear and see what happens. Same in USA. Pentagon carries huge influence. For instance Obama wanted to end the Afghan war and pull out US troops. Instead he ended sending even more. That was because the security establishment 'persuaded him'.regional trade in cooperation with army.
Because his security detail failed.gen zia killed
Yes broadly you are correct but its not the same situation in pakistan.No country can be ran without coperation of army. Try run India and go against what the Indian Army holds dear and see what happens. Same in USA. Pentagon carries huge influence. For instance Obama wanted to end the Afghan war and pull out US troops. Instead he ended sending even more. That was because the security establishment 'persuaded him'.
Our establishment is not as consolidated as yours. In case of India - the Indian military, Indian big corporate sector, Indian corporate controlled media, major political elite is on the same page and make the "Indian establishment".Yes broadly you are correct but its not the same situation in pakistan.
u.s run under influence of israel and not under army establishment.most of u.s soldiers want to exit afghan war but they are forced because of jewish lobby which controls both army and govt and want war for their weapon industry and other fulfilment of religious prophecyNo country can be ran without coperation of army. Try run India and go against what the Indian Army holds dear and see what happens. Same in USA. Pentagon carries huge influence. For instance Obama wanted to end the Afghan war and pull out US troops. Instead he ended sending even more. That was because the security establishment 'persuaded him'.
Because his security detail failed.
But does he need to...It is true. If Imran doesn't bend down in front of Establishment like every (bloody) civilian government, he will be disposed off in the same way Nawaz got.
"Don't you dare touch the foreign policy you bloody civilian."
-Establishment
The guardian is a centrist-liberal newspaper, so obviously their opinion on IK will be wrong. They seem to enjoy the status quo, so fight against people trying to shake up the system. Whether its corbyn in england, maduro in venezuela or khan in pakistan.FUUUCCCKKKKKKK........Now this is too much of these assholes....IK needs to talk about/against it....They are building a narrative, shaping and fertilizing people's opinion around the world...They will kill Khan and then will blame that on Pak army/ISI....
Imran needs to come on TV, in English language, should blast western media otherwise this will create exceptional problems for Imran, army and Pakistan....the way they are tarnishing Pakistan/ISI....
Can Imran Khan fulfil Pakistan’s voters’ hopes and keep the generals at bay?
It’s not hard to see why Imran Khan’s stunning victory in the Pakistan elections attracted global media coverage. The story of a cricketing hero and former playboy turned political superstar and scourge of the establishment that spawned him was too good to miss.
Given Pakistan’s history of army coups, Khan’s rise to power seemed like a modern parable foretelling the triumph of people’s democracy over the dark-suited, sunglassed forces of “deep state” military control, manipulation and repression.
Beguiling though this storyline is, it did not really happen that way. Indeed, Khan owed his success, in part at least, to the covert meddling of those same shadowy spooks and generals, according to EU poll monitors. Yet who governs Pakistan, and how, is still a matter of high international importance. Take female suffrage. Equal voting rights are absent in some Muslim countries. But Pakistan, where women comprise 44% of eligible voters, has made exceptional progress. Veiled female residents of conservative tribal areas such as South Waziristan made history last Wednesday when they cast votes for the first time.
Pakistan matters because, with its youthful population of more than 200 million (66% are under 30), it is a country of vast potential handicapped by endemic poverty, illiteracy and inequality. It is also, not coincidentally, a battleground pitting anti-western Islamists, schooled in international jihad in Saudi-funded madrassas, against the secular, anglophone elite. It is central to the “war on terror”. Its stability and security, or lack of it, has a potentially global impact.
For the British, Pakistan exercises an abiding fascination, rooted in the Raj’s disastrous part in its bloody 1947 birth and in continuing, close ethnic and cultural ties. For the Americans, self-anointed heirs to empire, Pakistan plays the dual role of indispensable ally and duplicitous villain in their endless Afghan drama. For many in India, Islamabad is the nuclear-armed bogeyman next door. For expansionist China, Pakistan is a key link in its grandiose Belt and Road trading franchise, reliant on Beijing’s loans, investment and goodwill.
How the untested Khan, wholly lacking in governmental experience, will approach these complex issues and historical burdens is open to question. What is clear is that he has changed radically since his hell-raising West End days. Launching his Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) party, meaning “movement for justice”, in 1996, a newly earnest Khan, now 65, made doing God’s will and fighting corruption his main aims in life.
“Far from being the Islamic welfare state that was envisaged, Pakistan is a country where politics is a game of loot and plunder,” Khan wrote in his memoir, Pakistan: A Personal History. His new party, he said, would strive to “end exploitation and ensure a society based on honesty, merit and integrity”.
Khan espoused a conservative religious outlook, favouring sharia law and controversially backing radical anti-blasphemy laws. His criticism of US drone strikes earned him the nickname “Taliban Khan”. And he rediscovered his family’s Afghan roots and Pashtun tribal identity. Coincidentally or not, this won him support among conservatives.
Likewise, courting populist opinion, Khan turned against Pakistan’s western-educated ruling class, despite graduating from Oxford university. Colonialism had wrought lasting damage across the subcontinent, he wrote, by destroying self-esteem. “The inferiority complex that is ingrained in a conquered nation results in its imitation of some of the worst aspects of the conquerors, while at the same time neglecting its own great traditions.”
Twenty years spent clambering up Disraeli’s greasy pole may have mellowed Khan a little, but not entirely. Observers say he remains a passionate, volatile man with authoritarian instincts.
But the conciliatory tone of Thursday’s victory speech, in which he called for national unity, surprised and relieved critics. Khan said he would seek improved relations with India and Afghanistan, where a nascent peace process is inching forward.
He even offered an inquiry into opposition allegations of vote-rigging. Although the row over the “stolen” election will rumble on – minor parties say they plan street protests – Khan’s offer seems to have drawn its sting. The main opposition, the PMLN, has dropped its threat to boycott parliament and accepted defeat. An editorial in Dawn newspaper, headlined “Time to move on”, declared Khan and the PTI had demonstrated “genuine national political appeal”. For that reason, it said, “he ought to be given the political space to try and turn his ideas into reality”.
Whether Khan can do so, while maintaining a calm, unifying approach, is now the biggest question in Pakistani politics. Two immediate problems stand out. One is how to prevent the economy imploding under rising debt and devaluation pressures. The other is how the new government can escape the embrace of the overbearing military, which will expect payback for its campaign “assistance”.
Pakistan’s generals are accustomed to exercising sole control of foreign and security policy. Challenging them can be a career or even life-ending experience. So if Khan, for example, wants to break with the US, befriend India, or talk to terrorists, he had better watch his back. Whatever the popular storyline says about democracy redux, the hidden hand on the new prime minister’s shoulder is real. It will be hard to shake off.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/29/imran-khan-pakistan-election-victory-analysis
I m stunned, literally....Security of IK needs to be hell alert and of quality...Take help of Russians/Chinese.....I m sensing great threats from west
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