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SELF PRESERVATION IN A TOUGH NEIGHBORHOOD AND A BELLIGERENT NEIGHBOR BENT UPON HEGEMONY CONQUEST AND ASSIMILATION

The Pakistani missile program is a program of survival, self-preservation, dreams, defense and direct competition with India. In many ways, the program is ahead of its much larger neighbor’s program. Its deterrent value was proven, even in its early stages of development when it kept more than 250,000 soldiers on the Pakistani borders at bay.


President John F. Kennedy was once asked the difference between the Atlas space launch vehicle that put John Glenn into orbit and an Atlas missile aimed at the Soviet Union. He answered with a one-word pun: “Attitude.” The established path to a space launch capability for China, France, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, and the United States was to adapt a ballistic missile as a space launch vehicle.


The Short range Hataf series goes from Hataf 1 through Hataf 8 and includes air launched cruise missiles.

Some History....

Missile development and production in the world is truly a global enterprise. The first “rockets” on the planet were Chinese. The 1st tribal war in Europe also known as WW1 saw the introduction of bombs and rocket many laced with deadly chemical weapons. The death toll was over 15 million people killed. The 2nd tribal war in Europe was more devastating with over 50 million killed. German V-2 rockets rained down on London and destroyed most of it.

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After the end of the war, the German scientists who were more comfortable with America rushed to the American sectors and those German scientists who were more comfortable with the Russian or those who were trapped in the Russian sectors ended up in the USSR. The first American and USSR misiles after the war looked exactly like the German missiles. Some were simply painted over. Von Braun was the main scientist sequestered in Mobile Alabama who built the American missile and space program. The Apollo program was based on Von Brauns technology.

Chinese missile production capability is based on Russian and German technology also. North Korean technology is also based on German and Rusian technology. Indian technology is based on Russian missiles.

Cloaked in absolute secrecy, missile development in Pakistan began in the ’80s. To diversify its technological base, Pakistan uses domestic competition between its local vedors to come up with the best product. Since the late 1980s and early 1990s, Pakistan has invested in both solid-motor and liquid-engine ballistic missile programs.

“Pakistan’s reasons for investing in both solid- and liquid-propulsion technologies remain unclear. However, analysts speculate the rival programs could be the result of intra-institutional rivalry and one-upmanship between the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) and Khan Research Laboratories (KRL), which have historically feuded over control and credits for Pakistan nuclear weapons-related efforts. This rivalry may have also carried over to the development of nuclear delivery systems. Furthermore, the diversification effort could also be viewed as a proactive attempt on the part of Pakistan’s military to factor in possible bottlenecks or failure along one technological front, as well as an attempt to diversify suppliers in the face of U.S. efforts to restrict the international trade in weapons of mass destruction-capable ballistic and cruise missile technologies. “ Source: NTI

Pakistan began banking on missiles because of the US ambargo on planes. “till the fleet of 500 JF-Thunder aircraft are ready, Pakistan’s nuclear deterrent will be the missle nuclear defense. Pakistan formally kicked off its medium-range missile programme in April 1998, with the first successful test flight of Ghauri I missile followed by similar tests the next years involving the nuclear capable Ghauri, Shaheen, Ghaznavi and Abdali missile systems.
 
Things are getting rough & tough for us for all of us & as indicated that prior to the inclusion of any of a major air defence fleet the JF series I mean Pakistan is to apply pressure upon its rival through its missile programme I totally agree to it & perhaps the only means to dictate terms to our GREATER & BIGGER neighbour is to show nuclear detterance. Israel even follow the same lead as ours using its non-disclosed nuclear capabilities it always maintained a grip over its quantitative superior Arab leagues!!
 
I'm waiting for the ICBM!!! hope that there is an undergoing program for it....maybe we can it before the end of 2009! :P :)
 
INDIAN MISSILE PROGRAM:

In the lights of some facts....

“Plagued by cost overruns and repeated failures, the announcement is a virtual admission of failure,” the newspaper said. “In fact, some former chiefs of the different services said as much on hearing the news.”

Speaking of the Trishul surface-to-air missile that has now been termed a technology demonstrator, former naval chief Sushil Kumar said: “It was a national embarrassment. DRDO made fake claims for 25 years. In the 1999 Kargil conflict, the navy was vulnerable to attacks from Pakistan’s Harpoon.

“Finally the project was scrapped when the navy went in for the Israeli Barak missiles. The Prithvi’s naval variant, Dhanush, is also flawed and ill-conceived, which is being inflicted on the navy.”On the Akash missile, which was the subject of the DRDO media conference here on Tuesday, former air chief S. P. Tyagi said: “Akash was to be ready at a certain time, but it wasn’t. I had to change everything to make up for the delay.” Both missiles were part of a programme to develop indigenous weapons, which began in July 1983, with plans for Agni, Prithvi, Trishul, Akash and Nag missiles.

The IGMDP, which was aimed at achieving self-sufficiency in missile development and production, comprises five core missile programmes — the strategic Agni ballistic missile, the tactical Prithvi ballistic missile, the Akash and Trishul surface-to-air missiles and the Nag anti-tank guided missile.

The Mail Today quoted S. Prahlada, chief of the Control Research and Development, DRDO, as saying that development and production of most of the futuristic weapon systems would henceforth be undertaken with foreign collaboration.

With regard to the nuclear-capable Agni series, comprising I and II, the newspaper quoted army sources as saying while they had been tested five times each “a handful of tests are not enough to prove a missile’s worth”.

There were different problems with other systems too.

“Pakistan has always been one step ahead of India in its missile programme,” the newspaper said, adding that Islamabad has “a much more robust missile force than India, one capable of launching nuclear weapons to any part in this country.”

Unlike Indian missiles, which were declared “inducted” after a few tests, the Pakistani projectiles have always been thoroughly tested.
 
INDIAN MISSILE PROGRAM:

In the lights of some facts....

“Plagued by cost overruns and repeated failures, the announcement is a virtual admission of failure,” the newspaper said. “In fact, some former chiefs of the different services said as much on hearing the news.”

Speaking of the Trishul surface-to-air missile that has now been termed a technology demonstrator, former naval chief Sushil Kumar said: “It was a national embarrassment. DRDO made fake claims for 25 years. In the 1999 Kargil conflict, the navy was vulnerable to attacks from Pakistan’s Harpoon.

“Finally the project was scrapped when the navy went in for the Israeli Barak missiles. The Prithvi’s naval variant, Dhanush, is also flawed and ill-conceived, which is being inflicted on the navy.”On the Akash missile, which was the subject of the DRDO media conference here on Tuesday, former air chief S. P. Tyagi said: “Akash was to be ready at a certain time, but it wasn’t. I had to change everything to make up for the delay.” Both missiles were part of a programme to develop indigenous weapons, which began in July 1983, with plans for Agni, Prithvi, Trishul, Akash and Nag missiles.

The IGMDP, which was aimed at achieving self-sufficiency in missile development and production, comprises five core missile programmes — the strategic Agni ballistic missile, the tactical Prithvi ballistic missile, the Akash and Trishul surface-to-air missiles and the Nag anti-tank guided missile.

The Mail Today quoted S. Prahlada, chief of the Control Research and Development, DRDO, as saying that development and production of most of the futuristic weapon systems would henceforth be undertaken with foreign collaboration.

With regard to the nuclear-capable Agni series, comprising I and II, the newspaper quoted army sources as saying while they had been tested five times each “a handful of tests are not enough to prove a missile’s worth”.

There were different problems with other systems too.

“Pakistan has always been one step ahead of India in its missile programme,” the newspaper said, adding that Islamabad has “a much more robust missile force than India, one capable of launching nuclear weapons to any part in this country.”

Unlike Indian missiles, which were declared “inducted” after a few tests, the Pakistani projectiles have always been thoroughly tested.

Missles are one of the things that pakistan can do better than india.
:pakistan:
 
Great!! And what exactly do you plan to do once you have the ICBM?
I think the main question is what would India do with an ICMB Angi 4
Launch attacks against Russia , UK, USA or Israel ?



MIRV..
LOl Pakistan won't test ICBM.We don't really need ICBM or maybe some Arm Chair Generals wants the missile to fly the whole world before it hits India :crazy::rofl:

If MIRV helps you to space then ICBM is redundant. I thought you needed an ICMB to launch into space.
 
I think the main question is what would India do with an ICMB Angi 4
Launch attacks against Russia , UK, USA or Israel ?





If MIRV helps you to space then ICBM is redundant. I thought you needed an ICMB to launch into space.

Obviously the aim is to gain the ability to hit any part of China from any part of India. Not that the two countries will be at war anytime soon. Just preparaing for the eventuality.
 
MIRV..
LOl Pakistan won't test ICBM.We don't really need ICBM or maybe some Arm Chair Generals wants the missile to fly the whole world before it hits India :crazy::rofl:

:rofl:

Building such rocket boosters for a space program would make exponentially more sense.
 
MIRV..
LOl Pakistan won't test ICBM.We don't really need ICBM or maybe some Arm Chair Generals wants the missile to fly the whole world before it hits India :crazy::rofl:

We need them to show the world that we can reach them if we have to you never know when you'll wind up in a mess.:chilli:
 
Construction an ICBM would have far fetcjed regional implications.
Imagine Pakistan having a missile capable of reaching Israel..lolzzzz... that would be a mess for us.

Anywaz, we don't have any intentions to create hegemony in the sub-continent (as india do) so we are contended with all what we have. We focus more on our indian counterparts rather than turning 'others' ON, without ant reason.
 
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