Pakistani citizenship for Afghan refugees

[Pakistanisage]

Eventually I can see Pakistan-Afghanistan becoming a Federation.

 

[American Pakistani]

Great going Pakistanis keep fighting with each other, raise your flag of ethnic nationalism colored with brother Pakistani's blood on his body & claim victory(dunno victory from whom) & in the end all knows who will take advantage as we can see by one unwanted neighbouring member who is happy & contribute some oil on fire when needed.

I can't beleive some people hate Muhajirs soo much? As for why we call ourself Muhajir is that we speak different language & migrated from different areas but for one reason, we sacrifice our blood just for one cause Pakistan, in 71 when you people were sleeping here in West Pakistan in your blankets we were supporting our Pak Army to crush mutki & RAW terrorists even when we knew that our families were living there. But still i would say when too much blood spill didn't stop us from loving Pakistan, this net warriors are nothing, Inshallah our patriotism will never die down, it is now in Muhajir's blood to love Pakistan.

@ Topic, Give nationality to those Afghans who accept Pakistan & love it. If they love this country Pakistan then they have a right to live here, kick the rest who are involved in spreading drugs or gun culture & hate Pakistan. After giving nationality to loyal ones help them educate their childrens so that we have educated & sane next generation(which this country need badly) who will drive this country out of raceism & other troubles into a right path.

 

[Rafi]

Great going Pakistanis keep fighting with each other, raise your flag of ethnic nationalism colored with brother Pakistani's blood on his body & claim victory(dunno victory from whom) & in the end all knows who will take advantage as we can see by one unwanted neighbouring member who is happy & contribute some oil on fire when needed.

I can't beleive some people hate Muhajirs soo much? As for why we call ourself Muhajir is that we speak different language & migrated from different areas but for one reason, we sacrifice our blood just for one cause Pakistan, in 71 when you people were sleeping here in West Pakistan in your blankets we were supporting our Pak Army to crush mutki & RAW terrorists even when we knew that our families were living there. But still i would say when too much blood spill didn't stop us from loving Pakistan, this net warriors are nothing, Inshallah our patriotism will never die down, it is now in Muhajir's blood to love Pakistan.

@ Topic, Give nationality to those Afghans who accept Pakistan & love it. If they love this country Pakistan then they have a right to live here, kick the rest who are involved in spreading drugs or gun culture & hate Pakistan. After giving nationality to loyal ones help them educate their childrens so that we have educated & sane next generation(which this country need badly) who will drive this country out of raceism & other troubles into a right path.

Our Urdu speaking brothers and sisters, and our Pashto speaking brothers and sisters are what makes this country great - and that is the same for all the creeds, ethnicities and cultures that reside in Pakistan.

 

[pk_baloch]

Great going Pakistanis keep fighting with each other, raise your flag of ethnic nationalism colored with brother Pakistani's blood on his body & claim victory(dunno victory from whom) & in the end all knows who will take advantage as we can see by one unwanted neighbouring member who is happy & contribute some oil on fire when needed.

I can't beleive some people hate Muhajirs soo much? As for why we call ourself Muhajir is that we speak different language & migrated from different areas but for one reason, we sacrifice our blood just for one cause Pakistan, in 71 when you people were sleeping here in West Pakistan in your blankets we were supporting our Pak Army to crush mutki & RAW terrorists even when we knew that our families were living there. But still i would say when too much blood spill didn't stop us from loving Pakistan, this net warriors are nothing, Inshallah our patriotism will never die down, it is now in Muhajir's blood to love Pakistan.

@ Topic, Give nationality to those Afghans who accept Pakistan & love it. If they love this country Pakistan then they have a right to live here, kick the rest who are involved in spreading drugs or gun culture & hate Pakistan. After giving nationality to loyal ones help them educate their childrens so that we have educated & sane next generation(which this country need badly) who will drive this country out of raceism & other troubles into a right path.

u r no longer muhajirs now ... u r pakistani now ....donot call urself muhajirs......just like sindhi ,pashto,punjabi,balochi speaking u r now urdu speaking pakistani ...

 

[pk_baloch]

Great going Pakistanis keep fighting with each other, raise your flag of ethnic nationalism colored with brother Pakistani's blood on his body & claim victory(dunno victory from whom) & in the end all knows who will take advantage as we can see by one unwanted neighbouring member who is happy & contribute some oil on fire when needed.

I can't beleive some people hate Muhajirs soo much? As for why we call ourself Muhajir is that we speak different language & migrated from different areas but for one reason, we sacrifice our blood just for one cause Pakistan, in 71 when you people were sleeping here in West Pakistan in your blankets we were supporting our Pak Army to crush mutki & RAW terrorists even when we knew that our families were living there. But still i would say when too much blood spill didn't stop us from loving Pakistan, this net warriors are nothing, Inshallah our patriotism will never die down, it is now in Muhajir's blood to love Pakistan.

@ Topic, Give nationality to those Afghans who accept Pakistan & love it. If they love this country Pakistan then they have a right to live here, kick the rest who are involved in spreading drugs or gun culture & hate Pakistan. After giving nationality to loyal ones help them educate their childrens so that we have educated & sane next generation(which this country need badly) who will drive this country out of raceism & other troubles into a right path.

nobody didnot care in 90s that who are mujhajirs ,sindhi ,pashto balochi ...all were pakistanis ,,these are politicians ,, media and forigeners who are dividing us ......

 

[SHAMK9]

nobody didnot care in 90s that who are mujhajirs ,sindhi ,pashto balochi ...all were pakistanis ,,these are politicians ,, media and forigeners who are dividing us ......

Not really, its actually us dividing ourselves, this thread is a perfect example how certain people here started raising ethnic flags here over issue of Afghanistanis.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

what they need is a sign, leading them to the border exit only


when will people realize they are liabilities.....They are not assets, they are liabilities to Pakistan.

i still am amazed that these NATO countries that claim to be their saviours seldom ever take them as refugees, feed them, clothe them, house them -- the way we have been doing for over 30 God damned years


and the morality brigades of hindustan, some whom flock here on this very forum --well i have my own views on those people.


I wish them the best for that country of theirs; but they have got to go. Afghan leaders should not be allowed to visit, until they order their ragtag army to stop firing on civilian position in Bajaur; stop allowing TTP to enter via Kurram. Ask any Pashtun in Peshawar, Mardan or DI Khan what they think about these people - who come steal jobs, steal parts from cars and private party, bring their drugs and prostitution, and bad-mouth Pakistan even while a Pakistani spoon and fork is in their mouth. They've been milking off of us for so long, and now suddenly talk of citizenship? Are you fcking kidding me????


until status quo changes, I view them as a hostile state. Sorry, but that's just my own opinion. Many may not agree. Sooner or later -- something will have to be done.



pathetic state of affairs

If these refugees were shias, your opinion would have been different. I am sure you would not feel ok if governament kick hazara community of quetta back to Afghanistan.....

 

[tarrar]

They are criminals & they are cause of crimes in Pakistan, kick these people out of our Pakistan.

 

[bc040400065]

i have personal experience with these afghans and let me tell you they only love their own home land. they want to live here to earn but they hate us, If they had the authority let me asure you they would kick us all out of our own home land. they really hate us from inside but don't show it as they know they have nothing in afghanistan so they have to live here. but we have to ask them to leave simple as that. even our own pashtun people don't like them.

 

[CrazyTycoon]

If these refugees were shias, your opinion would have been different. I am sure you would not feel ok if governament kick hazara community of quetta back to Afghanistan.....

Why bring in the religion card? I have the feeling that this is quite hypocritical of you.

If the majority of these Afghan refugees were non-muslim, would you still be willing to give them Pakistani citizenship?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

If these refugees were shias, your opinion would have been different. I am sure you would not feel ok if governament kick hazara community of quetta back to Afghanistan.....

nope it wouldnt change at all....I'm not sure how you're "sure" of what I think would feel ok and what I feel would not be ok, because you dont even know me Monkey. No need at all for you to make presumptions about me or my views, even though my views are well known on this forum - like an open book.

we have enough mouthes to feed in Pakistan; no need at all to now be more humanitarian than we have been. IF they are Afghans - they should be in Afghanistan. They don't need to be in our country.

By the way, Hazaras are not an Afghan-specific community. We had them in Pakistan even before the Afghan-Soviet jihad. Same with the Qizilbash. So i dont know how Sunni or Shiia element came into your logic

 

[Mir Baloch]

baloch also fought for islam are also proud pakistanies gave sacrifices still noone praise us why
Khan-e`-Baluch-VI : Mir Nasir Khan Baloch (1749-1817)
from Inside Baluchistan
Autobiography: The Khan of Kalat
Mir Nasir Khan (also known as Nasir Khan Noori and Nasir Khan the Great) is considered to be a
unique ruler in the history of the Baluches by virtues of sterling and extraordinary qualities of head and
heart. Born with a sharp intellect and philosophic bend of mind, he utilized his nine years of imposed
'captivity' under Nadir Shah in studying the history of nations;their rise and falls;their concepts and
ideologies;and the role of religion in the shaping of individuals and states. Such was his bearing even as
a child that Nadir Shah could not help observing:
“This Baluch Prince is destined to become a great
king in the future.”
Mir Nasir Khan was a multi-natured personality of his time. He combined in himself the qualities of
being religious without being a fanatic;a dashing reformer without being despotic; an able general with
rare military foresight; and a firm statesman. In short, he represented a fairly true picture of the ideal
'philosopher-king' whom Plato has defined in his Republic.
He was the first ruler of the region who brought about healthy friendly relations with nations, and knit
the tribal organization of the Baluches into one Baluch entity. He established a Baluch parliament to
function on a workable constitution based on Islamic
Sharia
(Laws) and congenial Baluch traditions.
His devotion to Islam was so deep, and his pity so unshakable that people came to append the word
Wali
, meaning 'a saint' , to his name. Mosques were constructed all over the State, and arrangements
were made on Government level to collect
Zakat
(pool tax incumbent upon all Financially sound
Muslims); and laws militating against Islamic concepts were repealed. Through a special decree he
made
Purdah
(veil) compulsory for all Muslim women irrespective of their age. In short, he rooted out
all social evils and established a truly Islamic social order in Baluchistan. 'Turan' -the original name of
the land-was changed to 'Baluchistan'.
Another significant achievement of Mir Nasir Khan was the rooting out of the Zikri sect,the doctrines
of which negated the basic teachings of Islam. The Caliph in Turkey was so much impressed by his
courageous services in the cause of Islam that he conferred upon him the distinguished titles of
Ghazi-
e-Deen
(Hero of Islam) and
Nasir-e-Millat-e-Mohammadiya
(the supporter of the followers of Prophet
Mohammad, PBUH ).
the outlawing of the Zikri sect was seized by the ambitious Ahmed Shah Abdali of Afghanistan as a
serious issue; and using this incident as a pretext, he advanced towards Kalat in 1758 with his army.
The Baluches put up a tenacious defense and fought fiercely. So sustained and stubborn was the Baluch
Resistance that their long siege tired the Afghan army, which finally had to enter into an agreement
with Mir Nasir Khan. This agreement which is known as the 'Agreement of Kalat', provided that
“
henceforth Baluch forces, under the command of Khan-e`-Baluch would have their due share in all
the future conquests of Ahmed Shah Abdali
”. Thus, what commenced as a bloody war ended as a happy
union, which eventually proved to be a great source of strength to the Afghans.
Consequently, Mir Nasir Khan and the Army of Baluches participated with Ahmed Shah Abdali in
several expeditions;and in some expeditions Nasir Khan was himself in command of the joint forces.
His bold and victorious steering of the Battle of Meshed against the Persians, in particular, so greatly
impressed the Afghan King that the latter gave him the title of
Brather-e`-Wafadar
(the faithful
brother), and made a present of the Shal Region(now Quetta) to his mother,Bibi Maryam.
Similarly, it was Mir Nasir Khan again who, with his army of twenty five thousand Baluches, came to
the help of Ahmed Shah Abdali at the famous Third Battle of Panipat in 1761. It was this combination
of outstanding military valor and fighting skill which crushed once and for all the rising Marhatta
menace in Northern India.
Victory Against the Sikhs
The Sikhs had formed themselves into a force to be reckoned with as early as 1710,when they made
their first incursions into the Upper Doab under Banda-a nondescript follower of Guru Govind Singh.
They had sacked Sharanpur, Ambehtan and Nanavath in the Upper Doab; but moved no further till
after the Third Battle of Panipat in 1761, when they once again resumed their infiltrations deeper into
the region, finally capturing Lahore in 1764, where they established their short-lived Khalsa State
extending from Jhelum to the banks of Jamuna.
It was then that they rose against the Muslims, whose condition was getting progressively weaker due
to the onset of the general decline of the Moghul Empire. Sensing danger to the cause of Islam, Shah
Waliullah of Delhi wrote to Ahmed Shah Abdali and Mir Nasir Khan asking them to help their
brethren-in-faith. This was an open call for
Jehad
(religious war); and Abdali and the Khan-e`-Baluch-
VI, Mir Nasir Khan, responded readily to it, the latter's contribution being a contingent of twelve
thousand warriors headed by himself in the front.
Thus it was that a combined Muslim Army of Afghans and Baluches marched into India to meet their
common foe in 1765. As always, Nasir Khan was in the forefront; but in this particular engagement, he
was more enthusiastic and reckless than ever, for if he fell on the battlefield, it would mean
Shahadat
(martyrdom)-a Divine distinction which every true Muslim must live for.
And so it happened that while Mir Nasir Khan was piercing his way on his horse through the Sikh
ranks in a furious outburst near Lahore, he fell off his steed; and as he fell to the ground, the turban he
was wearing got loose. As a result, his long hair popped out from beneath his head-wear. One of the
Sikh combatants noticing the fall rushed out at him with the sword to secure what could have been his
'prize-kill'. But as fate would have it, another Sikh hastily halted his comrade's blow in the nick of time,
saying that the man(i e Nasir Khan) was a Khalsa(Sikh)!
The Sikh had naturally mistaken the turban-less Nasir Khan for a Sikh! For, his long hair and
unmistakably communal resemblance.
However, by the time the Sikhs became aware of their self-deception, Nasir Khan was once again on
his feet; and the other Baluch Swordsmen, too, charged and drove back the Sikhs, who eventually
suffered a crushing defeat and retreated in haste.
On returning to his camp after the encounter, Mir Nasir Khan immediately sent for a barber and got his
long hair and beard cropped short in strict accordance with requirements of
Sharia
(Islamic code of
conduct).
For a long time after this, he regretted to have missed the enviable attainment of martyrdom in the
cause of Islam on account his resemblance to a
kafir
(infidel) just because of his misleading long hair
and flowing beard.
The Baluches under their Khan had fought so gallantly and successfully against the Sikhs that Ahmed
Shah Abdali was delighted to express his appreciation and gratitude in these words:
“Khan! You once helped us, the Afghans,to become free from the slavery of the Persians by
giving them a crushing defeat; and now once again, on the battlefield of Panjab, you have earned our
gratitude for the selfless and gallant fight against the Sikhs, for which we are proud of you. ”
Military Organization under Nasir Khan
I must here assert that the Baluches are inherently a militant group of tribes. This statement is further
substantiated (not that the fact needs any confirmation) by Firdausi in his famous
Shahnama
in these
words:
Thus, we see the Baluches depicted as: “People with a warlike spirit, wearing exalted plumes,like the
****'s comb, on their turbans. ”
Baluch Society, since ancient times has been military oriented. The annals of Baluch history bear
testimony to the fact that even it's women-folk and children were remarkably skilled in marksmanship
and horse-riding. In fact,every male in the tribe who wore a
shalwar
was a perfect soldier. The
Baluches, therefore never needed to maintain a 'regular army' as understood in the modern sense of the
word. Martial spirit and pursuits were an integral part of their lives. As such, one can almost say that
every Baluch home was an epitome of an army by itself. Thus, though there was no 'recruited' army,
every young and able-bodied man in the tribes held himself in readiness for action whenever his Sardar
made the call.
However, with the passage of time and evolution of tribal Chieftaincy through the ages, the concept of
war-craft underwent a steady transformation, till eventually it assumed the form of a collective fighting
force compromising of baggage-men, footmen, infantrymen, cavalrymen and other essential personnel.
Mir Nasir Khan, himself an accomplished fighter and commander-who had tackled Indian insurgent
elements like the Marhattas and Sikhs, and had watched the Afghan and Persian techniques of warfare-
realized the necessity of maintaining a well-organized army for his Khandom. Accordingly, he chose
and stationed a permanent army unit, called
Dast-e`-Darbar
(Palace Regiment) in his capital,
numbering twelve hundred men. In emergencies, three additional Divisions used to be raised from
among the tribes. These reinforcement units were called
Dasta-e`-Khas
(Special Division);
Dasta-e`-
Doem
(Second Division) or the 'Sarawan Lashkar'; and
Dasta-e`-Soem
(Third Division) or the 'Jhalawan
Lashkar'. The Khan-e`-Baluch, Mir Nasir Khan, was the Supreme Commander of this whole body of
the State Army.
With each
Dasta
or Division went a long retinue of
Loris
(artisans), poets,
Hakeems
(physicians), and
surgeons accompanied by adequate personnel and non combatants to man supplies, transport and
communications. The
Loris
formed,as it were, a 'mobile workshop' during war time, repairing
damaged arms,spears,swords,saddles,horseshoes,tents and other military wares at the base camps not
far off from the scene of action. Their services were thus indispensable to the fighting units.
The
Raizwars
or poets and ballad-singers, too, played an important role during military
engagements,inspiring the warriors and maintaining their morale with their moving verses and
melodious eulogies of the warriors' bravery on the battlefield. These poets and bards were,in fact the
chroniclers, of dates and events past as well as contemporary history, who preserved the age-long
traditions of the Baluches and their fearless performances of valor and chivalry, both on and off the
field.
The
Hakeems
or physicians and surgeons came from the venerable class of Muslims, known as
Saadats
. Well-versed in religion as well as in medicine and surgery, they played a dual role,treating the
wounded and the sick, and leading the congregational prayers and preaching the temporal and spiritual
values of
Jehad
(religious war). Belonging to the genealogical lineage of the Holy Prophet, they
commanded a high place and reverence in the esteem of all.
The Dehwars,Jamotes,Jats, and Hindus were in charge of supplies and transport and other executive
works of the war machinery. The Hindus dealt mainly with supply of rations to the units.
Thus, the entire tribal community contributed its might in an apportioned manner during military
engagements, with each single Baluch actively involved in his respective operation on the field and at
the base.
A word about the army formations and their mode of deployment will not be amiss here. I have already
mentioned that the State Army compromised of three main Divisions,namely
Dasta-e`-Khas
(the
Special Division),
Dasta-e`-Doem
(the Sarawan Division), and
Dasta-e`-Soem
(the Jhalawan Division).
The constituents and strength of each of these Divisions were as under:
The Special Division
This ten thousand one hundred and twenty-strong Division(
Dasta-e`-Khas
) was in the personal
command of the Khan-e`-Azam and placed as the central formation, flanked by the Sarawan Lashkar
on the right, and the Jhalawan Lashkar on the left. The tribe wise breakup of the force was:
1.
Zagar Mengal 1000
2.
Lasi 1000
3.
Kharani 1000
4.
Sanjrani 1000
5.
Marri 1000
6.
Bugti 1000
7.
Derajati 2000
8.
Makrani 1000
9.
Mirwani 100
10.
Qumbarani 50
11.
Altazai 50
12.
Gurnari 100
13.
Qalandarani 100
14.
Samalani 200
15.
Mroduni 200
16.
Dehwar 60
17.
Dehwar of Mastung 60
18.
Jamali 200
_____
Total : 10,120
The Sarawan Division
This Division(
Dasta-e`-Doem
) numbering five thousand and eight hundred compromised of tribes
settled in Sarawan, and was commanded by the Sardar of the Raisani tribe. Its tribe-wise constituents
were:
1.
Raisani 300
2.
Shahwani 800
3.
Bangulzai 500
4.
Kurd 500
5.
Mohammad Shahi 300
6.
Sarprah 300
7.
Lahri 300
8.
Rind 800
9.
Lango 500
10.
Parkari 150
11.
Dehwar of Kalat 50
12.
Various Tribes from Kachi 300
13.
Tribes from Khangarh 500
(Jacobabad)
14.
Tribes from Nasirabad 500
_____
Total: 5,800
The Jhalawan Division
Numbering four thousand and five hundred, this Jahlawani Lashkar (
Dasta-e`-Soem
) was under the
command of the Sardar of the Zarakzai Clan of Zahri Tribe, and compromised of the following other
tribes:
1.
Zahri 800
2.
Mohammad Hasani 800
3.
Bizenjo 300
4.
Mengal 1000
5.
Magsi 800
6.
Sasoli 300
7.
Khadrani 100
8.
Nichari 100
9.
Jatak 100
10.
Bajoi 100
11.
Sajdi 100
____
Total: 4,500
Military Intelligence
Obtaining of intelligence has always been the most important and integral aspect of warfare since time
immemorial. Termed as
Chari
in the Baluchi Language, this unit or -Dasta-, functioned as the
Intelligence Corps of the Khan-e`-Azam's Armed Forces, it's a primary purpose gathering information
of military value. This unit of picked intelligence men was charged with the mission of supplying
information upon which the plan of action would be chalked out. These men would move out
as -Charis- or scouts, from the base camp and penetrate as far deep into the No-man's land as safely
possible in order to reconnoiter the field and observe the enemy positions, assess their strength and
number of cattle and the possible mode of deployment. The news these scouts brought back would
determine the plan and technique of action. If the information they gathered warranted a surprise night
attack, the commander and the ranks would plan their moves accordingly. This move was called
Pasara
. If on the other hand, the scouts reported the enemy positions as poised for forward advance at
any moment, the situation then called for another technique, called
Maidan
, i e frontal engagement in
the open.
If we examine this ancient technique of
Pasara
, it will be seen that the modern Guerrilla Warfare is but
a developed manifestation of these techniques employed by the Baluches in their raids centuries back.
The modus operandi of -Pasara-, or night attack was that, based on the intelligence report of the
-Charis-, or scouts, the army would move forward under the cover of night;and getting as close to the
enemy positions as they could without raising any suspicion,they would entrench themselves at a
convenient striking distance. This halt, or
tamb
as it was called, was virtually a lull before a storm. The
men,breathing watchfully in grim silence, would wait while whispered orders were passed around,
specifying the place they should meet at on the morrow with their spoils. An agreed timing of attack
would be fixed at a precise moment of the darkest hour nearest the dawn. The men would then wait
resolutely, perhaps making mental calculation of the 'prizes' that would fall to them a few hours hence.
And then, with the arrival of the crucial zero-hour, the horsemen would spring out simultaneously like
a cavalcade of untamed fury, followed in the rear by footmen with their swords and spears; and the
enemy taken unaware, would thus find it wiser to do something other than being chopped like a ripe
harvest.
Likewise, if a
Pasara
, or night attack,was not feasible, and the
Charis
, or intelligence men had reported
a possible surprise initiative by the enemy, the army would accordingly prepare to meet the situation.
For this, men were posted in a chain at suitable distances around the camp, each person being replaced
in turn by another fresh sentinel during the watch round the clock. If the enemy launched a full scale
attack, the combatants of the State Army would ensconce themselves in the crevices on the hill slopes
nearby, and roll down heavy boulders upon the advancing hordes. But more often than not, they would
issue forth into the open field the moment they espied the onrush of the enemy. Usually, all three
Divisions joined battle as one co-ordinated force with two flanks and one center.
Weapons
Baluch traditional weapons of war numbered six, as per lullaby which Baluch mothers even today sing
emotionally to the babies at their breasts or in the cradle. This is how a mother wishes to see her son in
his manhood:
“May Alam Din(the son) grow into a white-clothed youth and bind on his person the six weapons:
shield,gun and dagger,and carry his own quiver full of arrows and the Shirazi Sword of the Rinds. May
he ride a swift mare.”
Thus a Baluch mother not only suckles her son with her divine lacteal fluid, but also at the same time
instills a martial spirit in her infant through her maternal secretions, longing to see him grow into a
fearless youth.
However during the times of Mir Nasir Khan, Baluch Military hardware consisted mostly of
matchlocks,pistols(
durhani
),swords,daggers,shields and bags(
kisag
) containing gunpowder.
Matchlocks and pistols were used for making a target of the enemy at a distance; but when the fighting
became a hand-to-hand affair, the traditional weapons like swords,shields and the daggers would come
into their full play. These light and handy weapons were home-made; for practically every Baluch was
a competent armorer during his leisure time. Mending and making these implements of war was a
pastime of the ever-vigilant youths of the Baluch tribal society. Nevertheless, it was also always an
appealing pursuit of the tribesmen to snatch weapons from their enemies and preserve them as
cherished souvenirs, which changed hands from father to son as valuable articles of family
inheritances.
Development of Artillery
Artillery had yet not made its appearance in Baluch engagements on the front. The honor of
introducing artillery in this part of the Indian subcontinent goes to Khan-e`-Azam Mir Nasir Khan, who
did so when he returned victoriously after humbling the Marhattas at the famous Third Battle of
Panipat in 1761, in co-ordination with Ahmed Shah Abdali of Afghanistan.
In the initial stages, the entire artillery strength comprised of only four cannons manned by a hundred
men, who formed a regular unit of the State Army. However, by the time of Mir Khudadad Khan, the
Khan-e`-Baluch-X(1857-93), the artillery unit grew to three hundred artillerymen with twelve standard
sized and several small-sized cannons, all of which were of British make.
It was an established policy of my grandfather, Mir Khudadad Khan, to place each of his sons in full
command of one of his Regiments. These princes would perform the regular duties of a Commandant
on parade grounds during peace-time, as well as during actual army engagements on the battlefield. I
have seen my father, Mir Azam Jan, the Khan-e`-Baluch-XII, in the position and role of a Commandant
of the Artillery Regiment of the State Army.
Apart from other Divisions,my grandfather maintained a regular Reserve Force of five hundred
men,excluding the three hundred strong artillery unit. This group was called
Amala
. Similarly, he had a
cavalry unit of another five hundred men, called
Risala
. All these various units and Divisions
functioned with an auxiliary force of one thousand, who supplemented the total Army as the Transport
Unit.
Transport
There were one thousand sound-bred camels for transport purposes which were used during campaigns
and long marches. One man was in charge of four camels. One hundred horses and camels of the finest
pedigree were reserved for the transport of Court Nobles,State Officials,Elder-men,Saadats and other
high ranking persons.
Whenever the Khan-e`-Azam used to travel between Kalat and Kachi, s retinue of one thousand camels
would accompany him,alternating with another one thousand camels which rested for future occasions.
Donkeys, too, had their due share in civil as well as military activities,these domesticated animals
being used mainly by lower cadres like
Loris
, cooks and other such personnel.
This, then, is a brief account of achievements during the period of Mir Nasir Khan's Life which
eventually ended in 1817, leaving his loving and beloved people in a state of long lasting anguished
mourning. The
Shahinshah
(emperor) of Iran, Mubarak Hussain Safvi, was deeply moved and sent a
special message of condolence to the Baluch people.
May Allah rest the soul of this great patriotic son of the soil in perpetual peace.
Ameen
.
“All those regions where the Baluches are settled are part and parcel of our State.”
Mir Nasir Khan ,the Khan-e`-Baluch VI
His Majesty Mir Nasir Khan Baluch is the Father of Baluchistan, he bought together the Baluch as one
nation under God, a nation state stretching from Bandar Abbas in the west to Kulachi (Karachi)
in the east ,and from Gawader in the south to Harand-Dajal (Dera Ismail Khan) in the north

 

[Jaanbaz]

Why no one talked about the stranded bihari Pakistanis in Bangladesh? Everyone crying about Afghan immigrants because what they are superior pushtun race? Biharis are not Muslims or they too dark skinned and different to be considered our own?

 

[Pakistani E]

Why no one talked about the stranded bihari Pakistanis in Bangladesh? Everyone crying about Afghan immigrants because what they are superior pushtun race? Biharis are not Muslims or they too dark skinned and different to be considered our own?

That's the hypocrisy of the Punjabi/pushto dominated establishment, and before someone pulls the racism card im Punjabi myself. But it's a fact that our army/government/establishment have left the true patriotic bihari Pakistanis to rot in Bangladesh. Hell if you go to Karachi, you'll find millions of these beggar afghans crawling all over the place. I lived on a street full of em, They are the most racist and self centred people I have ever seen.

 

[Panther 57]

It was the biggest mistake of Pakistan to allow refugees into cities and cosmopolitans. Allowing other nationalities to freely roam around without any check has led to present security situation. They have taken over the transportation and have bought property in here. Where in the world you find an example like this.

@ Topic, Give nationality to those Afghans who accept Pakistan & love it. If they love this country Pakistan then they have a right to live here, kick the rest who are involved in spreading drugs or gun culture & hate Pakistan. After giving nationality to loyal ones help them educate their childrens so that we have educated & sane next generation(which this country need badly) who will drive this country out of raceism & other troubles into a right path.

i have personal experience with these afghans and let me tell you they only love their own home land. they want to live here to earn but they hate us, If they had the authority let me asure you they would kick us all out of our own home land. they really hate us from inside but don't show it as they know they have nothing in afghanistan so they have to live here. but we have to ask them to leave simple as that. even our own pashtun people don't like them.

I will second bc040400065 I have personal experience too.
Before offering nationality to Afghans we should see what rest of the world is doing. Do they make such offers? It is right of every country to make available all the opportunities to its citizens. Giving nationality would mean sharing all types of resources and jobs. Why should Pakistan do it? And if ever Pakistan does, it will be the gravest mistake.