Featured Pakistan: When Agents Ruled – a glimpse of Spying, Espionage and Security Breaches

[xyx007]

I thought it was celebrated as some nationalistic pride and duty when the dictator took out Islamic provisions in the curriculum citing complexities of war on terror and i am being more diplomatic with words here than a Zebra on a road crossing.

So what happened to Mushy? 80% of person Pakistani population reject Pervez's secular-mindset. Did we voted for him and re-elected him to continue his mission. We are a powerful ethnic background nation in each province, and among us, most Common Denominteor is called Islam and you can give the name of this unity called Pakistaniyat. This is a beauty of us as a new and unique nation Allah created that There's no such history exists in entire human history of 2000 years.

 

[airmarshal]

Agents are very easy to find in Pakistan. No surprises there. And you dont even have to go that far in history. Look at current Pakistan. How PTM,PDM and NGOs speak the language and work to undermine the country.

There is not even shame in getting money from NED, a CIA front. Look at Naya Daur, Digital Rights Pakistan and this forced MeToo campaign.

 

[El Sidd]

21st century’s Nawaz Sharif is a super liberal secular. Extremist hurled a shoe at him for his liberal secular values. Ask Orya Maqbool Jan, Khadim Rizvi son or the local Mullah you know what Nawaz Sharif did for liberalism, secularism they will say what Nawaz Sharif did in his tenure others collectively couldn't do that. Here are the Liberal secular credentials of Nawaz govt.

Celebration of a Pakistani Hero

Nawaz led PMLN govt honoured the Nobel Laureate Pakistani hero by naming
Quaid e Azam university’s physics department after Abdus Salam.

Nawaz led PMLN government hung Mumtaz Qadri by ignoring the intense pressure and threat of violence of Mullahs.
Progressive Legislation
Nawaz Sharif’s PMLN ruled Punjab govt passed progressive women protection bill to ensure the unprecedented rights of women who are the victim of domestic violence, sexual and psychosocial abuse. Mullahs opposed that law.
Nawaz Sharif has done with Khatm e Nabuwat bill changes during PMLN govt.
https://nation.com.pk/22-Aug-2015/the-asghar-khan-case
Nawaz Sharif is not liberal, not secular and not even a fundamentalist. He is simply an opportunist who would be willing to carve out a Caliphate out of democracy or vice versa … depending upon what he gets in return.



I would say here Pakistan is caught between secularism and Theocracy because for 70 years we have created such bread Liberal Pakistanis believe the idea that Pakistan should be a theocratic state is dangerous and has been responsible for the rise of umpteen militant Islamist movements in the country. They say that Jinnah was a whisky-swigging, Western-educated liberal and had no desire to create an intolerant Islamic state. Progressive - mostly urbanite and educated - Pakistanis see their space further shrinking in the country, and the rise of Islamism in the country worries them tremendously. There's another kind of Molvies in the queue said Western Gulabi sharbat under 40% alcohol is Halal or Interest on house mortgage is Halal etc etc

The lobby that accommodated facilitated and arranged for changes in the constitution is more active now than before. You could easily be having Atif Mian as Finance minister while Reza got his NIC 2 hours after becoming state bank head.

Current government refuses to try the previous parliament under Article 6.

You have yet to explore the murky pir mureedi world of sabotage.

So what happened to Mushy? 80% of person Pakistani population reject Pervez's secular-mindset. Did we voted for him and re-elected him to continue his mission. We are a powerful ethnic background nation in each province, and among us, most Common Denominteor is called Islam and you can give the name of this unity called Pakistaniyat. This is a beauty of us as a new and unique nation Allah created that There's no such history exists in entire human history of 2000 years.

Government refuses to act upon court order which is enough of evidence of corruption in Pakistan

 

[xyx007]

The lobby that accommodated facilitated and arranged for changes in the constitution is more active now than before. You could easily be having Atif Mian as Finance minister while Reza got his NIC 2 hours after becoming state bank head.

They barely have a real political presence, since there is very little differentiating between conservative and awami political parties. These parties have the same economic and social agenda and programme, their representatives bend over backwards trying to appease religious lobbies, Liberal believe that the IMF can bail out Pakistan that is why Reza got his NIC 2 hours, and their whole faith rests in CPEC.

Current government refuses to try the previous parliament under Article 6.

The son of a career diplomat, Musharraf was commissioned in Pakistan’s army in 1964, joining the officer corps and seeing action in the country’s 1965, 1971 wars against India and Kargil War. Do you think article 6 should be imposed on him ? he [Musharraf] is one of the most popular guys within their rank and file. We all be hating this verdict, It is a Khooni Liberal agenda to rant against the Pakistani Military and it was a well-organized foreign-agenda to bring him under the gun of article 6. can you prove Mushy was corrupt and took billions of dollars of corruption money out of the country?

You have yet to explore the murky pir mureedi world of sabotage.

Government refuses to act upon court order which is enough of evidence of corruption in Pakistan

At least you agree that Imran Khan is honest and spoke the truth when he said that Pakistani self-proclaimed "liberals" are neither liberal nor progressive by Western standards. Pakistani Khooni liberals are a self-obsessed group of intellectually dishonest, tantrum-prone fascists whose only agenda is to rant against the Pakistani military and conservative Muslims. The most obvious proof is the support provided by Pakistani liberals to the corruption-infested cadres of PPP and PML-N who stolen billions of dollars from Pakistan's impoverished masses.

This is a one-off an example of Khooni Liberal that you are supporting in pakistan

https://twitter.com/x/status/1351984263147696132

 

[Chakar The Great]

What a total waste of time in reading OP's personal experiences etc.


Most things are taken out of context to suit a particular narrative, running a state is not easy. These problems are not unique to Pakistan, it happens every where.

What we can do is ensure right people at the right post, promotion of meritocracy, avoiding politics on issues of National interests. Rest will fall back to its place.

 

[El Sidd]

Do you think article 6 should be imposed on him ?

He is declared a traitor by courts of the Islamic Republic

can you prove Mushy was corrupt and took billions of dollars of corruption money out of the country?

Its general knowledge. Even Kubbi Yadev entered Pakistan during Mushi era.

 

[xyx007]

He is declared a traitor by courts of the Islamic Republic

I belong to such family members where we have a lot of Judges, lawyers and bureaucrats.

Hamid Ali Mirza - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Since childhood or from my family members, when someone calls me about his/her promotion or selected as New Judgeswhile enjoying my sip of double-double coffee at Tim Horton, we have been taught to love Pakistan and its Pak Army. Musharraf can be anything but not a traitor. The verdict of the Islamic Republic's special courts is not possibly executed in the Pakistan justice system because no such law exists to support this verdict. So this judgement about him is void.

 

[Nasr]

Thank you for posting this. The highlights of qadianis in Pakistan's political structure is revealing and telling. A solution is required on qadianis, as it is clear that they are threat to Islam, and by that right, Pakistan. A product of the zionist-british, their (qadianis) historical record has proven this threat. None the less, as Muslims we should approach these qadianis to rejoin the fold of Islam, with civility and under the teachings of the Noble Qur'an. After which, the choice is their's to make, and once they have made their choice, what follows, would be a consequence of their choice. Positively, if they do return to the fold of Islam, it is a win for Muslims.

 

[fitpOsitive]

simply Pakistan made a rule no general or bureaucrats neither their family can live in another country nor take citizenship, a whole lot of Pakistan problems will be simply resolved.

I second that opinion. Include politicians too.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Pakistan has tried to be an intermediate and conflicted species, this has much to do with self appreciation or appraisal... yearning for greener pastures, self at the cost of near and dear.

There are those who sell for less, comes down to self appraisal, hordes willing to sell for anything for immediate gratification... refer to Robert Horan's statement... but there are others like the Crypto AG kinds. Pakistan's position is and has been perilously compromised.

There is an unwillingly to correct the course. There is ineptitude ... and stopping before work is done. But there is a will for short cuts and eating from someone else's plate.

Loathing easy, correction hard! Charting a new course or correct course is and remains the only way forward. Organic and original thought cannot come from a conflicted mind, it requires that you're self aware and averse in needs, desires, aspirations and apprehensions.

 

[SQ8]

When a particular sect’s religious leadership loyalty lies outside its nation of nation; then that country is essentially compromised by every member of that sect.

 

[Salman876]

Rather than waste valuable time deliberating major administrative reforms, let us rectify the obvious flaws in the bureaucracy first — by using the next two years to make a determined effort to reset the bureaucracy, Introduce AI to check & Balance in all Governmental flow. After these basic flaws have been fixed, if it is still felt that there are deficiencies in the system, then perhaps administrative reforms can be attempted.
start from the auditor general of Pakistan because it is the main hub of corruption; We need to counter all flaws inside of that systems.

Agents are very easy to find in Pakistan. No surprises there. And you dont even have to go that far in history. Look at current Pakistan. How PTM,PDM and NGOs speak the language and work to undermine the country.

There is not even shame in getting money from NED, a CIA front. Look at Naya Daur, Digital Rights Pakistan and this forced MeToo campaign.

Aurat march is also included

 

[Zarvan]

It endorses what I am saying for really long time. Bombings and attacks in Pakistan can get resolved only if we allow our agencies to strike back to master of these attackers. We know who that is.

 

[Azadkashmir]

i searched that day in google who prints pakistans money answer was britain. plus pakistan military gets training in sandhurst. training sandhurst is not much concern but money printed by Britain. no sovereign.
only day these crooks will fall if dinar coin is the dominant currency and no other substitute.