Pakistan wants the US's trust, not its financial assistance: COAS

[Stephen Cohen]

I am really not interested in your ANALYSIS on behalf of Americans

What really matters is what Americans say and think
and that is what really counts in the end

 

[DarX]

Don't know about the USA, but the Taliban has lost trust on Pak!!!! According to the US media, Russia, Iran, China etc. have put their chips on Taliban!!

Any sources to back that up? China is a close ally of Pakistan so that means Pakistan and China supporting the Taliban is the same thing. The Russians might be arming the Taliban but since they were always mortal enemies, this is a transactional relationship based on a common enemy rather than an actual alliance. The Taliban are Sunni and so neither Iran nor Taliban will ever consider each other a true ally, and like the Russia-Taliban alliance, it will be based on their hatred of the USA.

That leaves Taliban with only Pakistan who have supported them for so long and who actually share a common goal for a united and friendly Afghanistan.

What really matters is what Americans say and think
and that is what really counts in the end

Americans have been thinking and talking of victory in Afghanistan for 17 years, and it has not mattered or counted for 17 years.

 

[Malik Usman]

Did it work in your case

Definitely works for India.....as she always cries like a women in front of all nations of the world about Pakistan.....

 

[Eagle_storm]

you can study business in pakistan
pakistani colleges are good enough

if you have money to spend on tourism there are lot of countries that would like your money



Nepal has a population of 28 million
Afghanistan population is 34 million

Other than routine toll & handling charges we do not charge the Nepalis anything for things that go to Nepal

You want to hide the fact that Pakistan is extorting money from Uncle Sam

i am still on my land and i spent my 22 years in education
but im not sure for you people that most of your people beg to every european countries and similarly to USA for anything though it could be anything and your people are also living in israel.

the production you people transfering is a clear clue of your sickness.
German Professor rejects Indian student due to the country's 'rape problem'


Professor Sickinger says the practice is carried out by 'many female professors in Germany'

• Jamie Campbell
• @jamie_campbell9
• Monday 9 March 2015 15:21 GMT

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A German professor has apologised after turning down a student because of India's rape problem

After an unnamed student wrote to Professor Annette G. Beck-Sickinger, at Leipzig University, the German professor replied saying she couldn't accept him because of India's attitude to rape.

She wrote: “Unfortunately I don’t accept any Indian male students for internships. We hear a lot about the rape problem in India, which I cannot support.

“I have many female friends in my group, so I think this attitude is something that I cannot support.”

When the applicant replied saying that he believed Professor Sickinger to overly generalising, she replied that: “I fully agree that this is a generalisation and may not apply to individuals. However it is unbelievable that Indian society is not able to solve this problem for many years now.”




She added that she felt “multi-rape” crimes in India were emblematic of the country’s attitude to women and added that the rejection of male Indian students for these reasons was a practice carried out by “many female professors” in Germany.



“I apologise if I caused any misunderstanding, but the email was taken out of context.”

Unfortunately, "rape culture in India" when used by foreigners is interpreted by Indians as Indian culture=rape culture.Wrong interpretation

Rupa Subramanya (@rupasubramanya) March 9, 2015
After screenshots posted on the website Quora went viral, the German ambassador, Michael Steiner wrote a letter to Professor Sickinger condemning the nature of her rejection.

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He said: “Let me make it clear at the outset that I strongly object to [your actions].

He continued: “Yesterday we celebrated International Women’s Day at the German Embassy here in Delhi with many local activists including men. Your oversimplifying and discriminating generalization is an offense to these woman and men ardently committed to furthering women empowerment in India.

“Let’s be clear: India is not a country full of rapists.”

India has been the subject of intense media scrutiny regarding social attitudes towards rape.

Last week, the Indian government issued an order to block the showing the documentary India’s Daughter, the subject of which was a brutal 2012 brutal gang-rape and murder of a 23-year-old woman in Delhi.

In the documentary, one of the men sentenced for the crime stated that: “A girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy.”

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

German Professor rejects Indian student due to the country's 'rape problem'

http://time.com/3738436/india-rape-german-professor-leipzig-annette-beck-sickinger-apology/

Enjoy!

"“I have made a mistake,” said Professor Annette Beck-Sickinger, according to a statement uploaded on the website of the German embassy in India. “I sincerely apologize to everyone whose feelings I have hurt.”"

 

[war&peace]

Rest assured automated translators are capable of deciphering this very easily.

So what does it say ? I'm also interested in learning its meanings.

 

[Verve]

"“I have made a mistake,” said Professor Annette Beck-Sickinger, according to a statement uploaded on the website of the German embassy in India. “I sincerely apologize to everyone whose feelings I have hurt.”

[but still, you are not getting the placement and other female professors will not change their stance either] ... that's what she meant - apology without any corrective action isn't really an apology!

So, did that guy get the place he applied for?

back to topic .... I have been saying that as soon as Pakistan eradicates the reliance on US for military supplies, we will tell them to 'shove off'. And exactly that's happened.

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

[but still, you are not getting the placement and other female professors will not change their stance either] ... that's what she meant - apology without any corrective action isn't really an apology!

So, did that guy get the place he applied for?

Actually it was more of a summer internship. The guy in question got an opportunity else where. He was an IITian after all.

 

[Verve]

Actually it was more of a summer internship. The guy in question got an opportunity else where. He was an IITian after all.

But it is humiliating for Indian nation nonetheless ... that highly educated professors and that of Germany too think that way! Interesting nonetheless ... something for Indians to reflect on and perhaps change!

 

[ghazi52]

Cracks in Trump’s Af-Pak policy

India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi hugs US President Donald Trump as they give joint statements in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington, US June 26, 2017.

President Donald Trump has finally found time from the internal White House crises and racial tensions within the United States to address a much-awaited cornerstone of his administration’s foreign policy: the question of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The sixteen years of US involvement in Afghanistan have been marred with an inability to completely dismantle terror networks in the region. These failures have often been plastered-over by shifting the blame to the Pakistani government. Pakistan has been constantly told to ‘do more’ in its bid to fight terror. This is rhetoric that became routine during the Bush and Obama administrations.

However, the political landscape has changed significantly since those administrations. The American policy of asking Pakistan to do more to earn its foreign aid may no longer be feasible. Pakistan has already made progress in uprooting domestic terrorists and has alternative foreign policy options.

Pakistan has waged significant military and civilian sacrifices in the war on terror. Undeniable gains have been made in eradicating domestic terror networks from Pakistan. The ISPR claims no organized terror networks exist in Pakistan today. The US State Department released a report, in July of this year, admitting terrorist activity in Pakistan had sharply declined for the second year in a row.

The number of attacks has decreased, the security apparatus has been upgraded and various networks have been dismantled. While acts of terrorism are still weekly news, they are no longer daily news. There has been renewed resolve to fight terrorism through a national consensus, political support and military might.

Such evidence suggests that the days of training camps and militancy safe-havens in Pakistan’s tribal regions may finally be coming to a close. For the Trump administration to not mention the gains Pakistan has made in eradicating terrorism in the prime-time address is a gross disservice to its ally.

Pakistan is also no longer isolated in its foreign policy. Pressure on Pakistan to accept US Aid may not be as applicable as it was when the War on Terror started. Efforts are already underway to seal the Pak-Afghan border which could significantly stop the inflow of proxy terror groups from neighboring territory.

Pakistan also has a pivotal regional ally in China. An ally who has invested far too heavily in the country to allow domestic policy to be dictated through US interests in the same way it used to be. United States pressure on Pakistan also comes at a time when hopes of a Russian-US reconciliation have evaporated and Pakistan is already looking north to a potential ally in Putin.

The Trump Administration has also taken two other problematic, yet important, policy initiatives. It has called for more troops in Afghanistan and has invited India as a stakeholder in the Afghanistan peace process.

The call for more troops will please Pentagon. It is a signature move for a Republican president at a time of crisis. Yet, the addition of nearly 5,000 troops will do little to change the balance of a war in Afghanistan that has proven to be all but unwinnable. It is perhaps another effort to reverse any policy that the Obama administration held dear.

However, given the lack of achievements hundreds of thousands of troops have made in the region in the past, there is little hope for the United States or its allies to conclude the effort with more troops. It is only through a comprehensive political dialogue that peace can be restored to Afghanistan.

It is also of note that the Trump administration has finally and formally accepted Indian ambitions to become a stakeholder in the Afghanistan peace process. This may be the most problematic policy declaration from the Trump speech for Pakistan.

Indian involvement in Afghanistan will destabilise the security balance in the region. It will further rejuvenate the use of Afghan territory to lodge proxy war in the Af-Pak region. Pakistan has already made formal complaints against Indian agencies using Afghanistan to plan attacks in Pakistan. The United States’ eagerness to include India shows a clear signal that it is ready to sideline Pakistan from the Afghanistan end-game. Yet, any long-term solution in Afghanistan can only be successful with Pakistan’s support given its decades-old involvement in the conflict and strategic ambitions.

India’s involvement in Afghanistan will also strengthen Chinese resolve to become a key stakeholder in the Afghanistan end-game. While news of a Sino-Indian border conflict continues to pour in, the deteriorating relationship between the two regional powers will embody itself through conflict in Afghanistan.

There is little doubt that the Trump administration has sought to pressurise Pakistan by making India a stakeholder in Afghanistan and ignoring Pakistan’s counter-terrorism efforts. Yet, even the deployment of additional troops will be unfruitful if Pakistan is excluded from any sustainable peace effort in the region.

Published in The Express Tribune, August 24th, 2017.

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

But it is humiliating for Indian nation nonetheless ... that highly educated professors and that of Germany too think that way! Interesting nonetheless ... something for Indians to reflect on and perhaps change!

Humiliation? What humiliation? She was in a position of power. If anything she has dragged the name of her university. University of Liepizs. She was scolded by her own government. If anything, she has made her position weaker. As a professor you should know about biases, over-generalization etc. She has shown that she is a failure as a academician.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Cracks in Trump’s Af-Pak policy

India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi hugs US President Donald Trump as they give joint statements in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington, US June 26, 2017.

President Donald Trump has finally found time from the internal White House crises and racial tensions within the United States to address a much-awaited cornerstone of his administration’s foreign policy: the question of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The sixteen years of US involvement in Afghanistan have been marred with an inability to completely dismantle terror networks in the region. These failures have often been plastered-over by shifting the blame to the Pakistani government. Pakistan has been constantly told to ‘do more’ in its bid to fight terror. This is rhetoric that became routine during the Bush and Obama administrations.

However, the political landscape has changed significantly since those administrations. The American policy of asking Pakistan to do more to earn its foreign aid may no longer be feasible. Pakistan has already made progress in uprooting domestic terrorists and has alternative foreign policy options.

Pakistan has waged significant military and civilian sacrifices in the war on terror. Undeniable gains have been made in eradicating domestic terror networks from Pakistan. The ISPR claims no organized terror networks exist in Pakistan today. The US State Department released a report, in July of this year, admitting terrorist activity in Pakistan had sharply declined for the second year in a row.

The number of attacks has decreased, the security apparatus has been upgraded and various networks have been dismantled. While acts of terrorism are still weekly news, they are no longer daily news. There has been renewed resolve to fight terrorism through a national consensus, political support and military might.

Such evidence suggests that the days of training camps and militancy safe-havens in Pakistan’s tribal regions may finally be coming to a close. For the Trump administration to not mention the gains Pakistan has made in eradicating terrorism in the prime-time address is a gross disservice to its ally.

Pakistan is also no longer isolated in its foreign policy. Pressure on Pakistan to accept US Aid may not be as applicable as it was when the War on Terror started. Efforts are already underway to seal the Pak-Afghan border which could significantly stop the inflow of proxy terror groups from neighboring territory.

Pakistan also has a pivotal regional ally in China. An ally who has invested far too heavily in the country to allow domestic policy to be dictated through US interests in the same way it used to be. United States pressure on Pakistan also comes at a time when hopes of a Russian-US reconciliation have evaporated and Pakistan is already looking north to a potential ally in Putin.

The Trump Administration has also taken two other problematic, yet important, policy initiatives. It has called for more troops in Afghanistan and has invited India as a stakeholder in the Afghanistan peace process.

The call for more troops will please Pentagon. It is a signature move for a Republican president at a time of crisis. Yet, the addition of nearly 5,000 troops will do little to change the balance of a war in Afghanistan that has proven to be all but unwinnable. It is perhaps another effort to reverse any policy that the Obama administration held dear.

However, given the lack of achievements hundreds of thousands of troops have made in the region in the past, there is little hope for the United States or its allies to conclude the effort with more troops. It is only through a comprehensive political dialogue that peace can be restored to Afghanistan.

It is also of note that the Trump administration has finally and formally accepted Indian ambitions to become a stakeholder in the Afghanistan peace process. This may be the most problematic policy declaration from the Trump speech for Pakistan.

Indian involvement in Afghanistan will destabilise the security balance in the region. It will further rejuvenate the use of Afghan territory to lodge proxy war in the Af-Pak region. Pakistan has already made formal complaints against Indian agencies using Afghanistan to plan attacks in Pakistan. The United States’ eagerness to include India shows a clear signal that it is ready to sideline Pakistan from the Afghanistan end-game. Yet, any long-term solution in Afghanistan can only be successful with Pakistan’s support given its decades-old involvement in the conflict and strategic ambitions.

India’s involvement in Afghanistan will also strengthen Chinese resolve to become a key stakeholder in the Afghanistan end-game. While news of a Sino-Indian border conflict continues to pour in, the deteriorating relationship between the two regional powers will embody itself through conflict in Afghanistan.

There is little doubt that the Trump administration has sought to pressurise Pakistan by making India a stakeholder in Afghanistan and ignoring Pakistan’s counter-terrorism efforts. Yet, even the deployment of additional troops will be unfruitful if Pakistan is excluded from any sustainable peace effort in the region.

Published in The Express Tribune, August 24th, 2017.

Thanks Ghazi.

Excellent post.

Of course the war in Afghanistan is unwinnable.
Trump is another idiot.

 

[wiseone2]

[but still, you are not getting the placement and other female professors will not change their stance either] ... that's what she meant - apology without any corrective action isn't really an apology!

So, did that guy get the place he applied for?

back to topic .... I have been saying that as soon as Pakistan eradicates the reliance on US for military supplies, we will tell them to 'shove off'. And exactly that's happened.

There are more indian foreign students than pakistanis even accounting for 6x population

 

[Eagle_storm]

http://time.com/3738436/india-rape-german-professor-leipzig-annette-beck-sickinger-apology/

Enjoy!

"“I have made a mistake,” said Professor Annette Beck-Sickinger, according to a statement uploaded on the website of the German embassy in India. “I sincerely apologize to everyone whose feelings I have hurt.”"

the offender always speak shit something on behalf of his committed crime.



https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indian-brigadier-raped-afghan-student.435882/