Pakistan wants the US's trust, not its financial assistance: COAS

[wiseone2]

I believe appropriate word will be anti Taliban, since both sides (Taliban and Ant Taliban) are afghans

I am fine with your wording

 

[Jinn Baba]

Man up General sahib! If you act like a little b1tch they will treat you like one.

Tell them to go fork themselves, seal off the border with Afghanistan and refuse permission for Americans to supply through Pakistan. Tell them this is part of our efforts to reduce terrorism from both sides - just as Trump asked; and these measures will stay in place until terrorism from Afghanistan stops and we clear our own house through our ongoing operations. Tell them that we can no longer risk Pakistanis dying due to attacks on American containers and supplies and the damage these shipments are doing to Pakistani roads and infrastructure.

Hire decent people at the foreign ministry, then thank the americans for the wake up call! Accept that we have a problem with terrorism and will/are dealing with it; and until we are successful, these measures will stay in place!

Then, whenever you are asked to reopen the border or allow American shipments, ask the americans to do more! Tell them of the risk of terrorism from Afghanistan! And remind them that it's Pakistanis the continue to die. If there are any terrorist attacks in the meanwhile blame Afghanistan! And take even more stringent measures. For god sake, learn to play politics.

 

[Falcon26]

This is how any normal country would have reacted. Shameful of the COAS to take this meeting after the humiliating tone his country was lectured by Trump.

https://twitter.com/x/status/900318376555368448

 

[Mitho1980]

Question is who is general bajwa to seal the border. It will. Be the civilians who will make the decisions. He will just implement them.
P. S. THIS IS A VERY SARCASTIC POST.
AND ONE ONR MORE P. S.
AB NAWAZ SHARIF KO BHI PHONE KARANA PAR GIA..........

 

[HRK]

Pakistani government had nothing to do with the situation in Afghanistan whether it was supporting the Taliban in the 1990s and allowing OBL to relocate from Sudan.

Don't expect others to pay for your mistakes

Someone told me "HYPOCRISY IS THE NATURE OF INDIANS" .... this one post is very fine example of it

His return in May 1996 was prompted less by a revival of interest in Afghan politics than by his need for a safe haven. His return was sponsored by the mujahideen leaders with whom he had become friendly during the anti-Soviet struggle. He flew to Jalalabad on a plane chartered by Rabbani's government that also carried scores of Arab fighters.

It was only after the Taliban captured Jalalabad from the mujahideen that he was obliged to switch his allegiance or leave Afghanistan again. He chose the first option.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/sep/27/10-myths-about-afghanistan

At the time Osama arrived Afghanistan Pakistan was supporting Taliban movements while It was INDIAN GOVERNMENT who was supporting Ahmed Shah Masood & his allies

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PpqKLn7eugEC&pg=PA135&lpg=PA135&dq=Osman+bin+laden+was+invited+by+Rabbani+in+Afghanistan&source=bl&ots=GK54JaZ4yr&sig=NGn-2_Ri46Y5VEyy3WInKnfpttU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjc0s-Zz-3VAhVFyRQKHVGTD9oQ6AEIWzAK#v=onepage&q=Osman bin laden was invited by Rabbani in Afghanistan&f=falsehttps://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PpqKLn7eugEC&pg=PA135&lpg=PA135&dq=Osman+bin+laden+was+invited+by+Rabbani+in+Afghanistan&source=bl&ots=GK54JaZ4yr&sig=NGn-2_Ri46Y5VEyy3WInKnfpttU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjc0s-Zz-3VAhVFyRQKHVGTD9oQ6AEIWzAK#v=onepage&q=Osman bin laden was invited by Rabbani in Afghanistan&f=false

 

[wiseone2]

Someone told me "HYPOCRISY IS THE NATURE OF INDIANS" .... this one post is very fine example of it

At the time Osama arrived Afghanistan Pakistan was supporting Taliban movements while It was INDIAN GOVERNMENT who was supporting Ahmed Shah Masood & his allies
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India did not support any Afghanistan group materially until 1999

What stopped Pakistani army and Taliban from kicking out Osama ?

Rabbani was an Islamic fundamentalist like the taliban

do you have working brain bharati? he is saying about future not past, and why should we return? we did so much for them? what gangaland did to deserve largest aid recipient status and all those jobs? you should return them back since you dont need aid anymore..

On topic, statement is weak and its understandable bcoz our establishment dont want to be dependent on China alone, No Turks, Saudi or others will condemn America for sake of Pakistan, we have to understand this, if friendship of America is not good then putting all balls in one basket (China) is not good either. 2ndly i dont know why we are so overreacting, did they blamed us for first time? what's new in their policy towards Pakistan?

Everyone knows you have been milking the Afghanistan cow. Now you are telling you do not want any more money. Ok everyone believes you

 

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They're kinda right, we have supported the white flag talibs and it's like playing with fire , if one thing we should learn is the same thing with the war in NWP that once dust settles the hard liners are radicalised to the point where they kill off the pro Pakistani groups , regroup then multiply and we have that problem again, that cycle will continue and us thinking of them as some strategic asset will not stop until to the point our leaderships daughters are dragged from their respective houses and whipped for wearing tight jeans and enforcing shariah laws.

See those Ak-47s, where do you think they come from not to mention the same bikes that fat burger kids in Pakistan ride.

The United States has tried its strategic patience with Pakistan for a long time now , we need to come out of this and seriously co-operate pick a side because the Afghan opinion is now 80% anti Pakistan and its better to do so then to experience terrorist attacks in a weekly basis by suffering the same fate as Afghanistan Somalia and Iraq , fak the countries image in the civilised world , radicalise the common people into thinking some sort of Jihad is taking place in Afghanistan.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_airlift
People in chitral even saw mullah omar and that pig head of TTP , they still thank GOD our beautiful valley didn't turn into ashes like in FATA.

In my opinion we need to seriously dealign ourselves and let the civilian leadership take the role of foreign policy unless the image of Pakistani army as its stands will not change for the better.

In long term policy pick a side seal the western border enough with the porous border argument half of that porous border is in a desert starting with Iran and going upwards station troops alongside fences supported by drones annex Wakhan corridor if you can in the process , if aghans are happy they might even gift it to us or be happy to sell it us.
Ultimately we're the losers here , it doesn't hurt United States because their coalition support continues and they can fight as long as they want for democratic Afghanistan to keep the west in a protective shed.
We're seriously living in the 1500s mindset.
Make peace on the western borders and eastern as well or else we will suffer the same fate as the nazis in world war 2.

 

[El Sidd]

#GovernmentRejected

 

[HRK]

India did not support any Afghanistan group materially until 1999

don't make stupid claims Indian were in full support Ahmed Shah Masood even at that time

What stopped Pakistani army and Taliban from kicking out Osama ?

Same forces which didn't killed Osama in Khartoum, the same forces who didn't captured Osama when his airplane made a stop in Sharja, the same forces who facilitated the escape of Osama from Torabora

Rabbani was an Islamic fundamentalist like the taliban

again show of Hypocrisy...

Link from Ministry of Foreign Affairs India: Visit of H.E. Professor Burhanuddin Rabbani Chairman High Peace Council of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan

http://indianexpress.com/article/news-archive/web/rabbani-to-visit-india-with-15member-delegation/http://indianexpress.com/article/news-archive/web/rabbani-to-visit-india-with-15member-delegation/

 

[KN-1]

India did not support any Afghanistan group materially until 1999

What stopped Pakistani army and Taliban from kicking out Osama ?

Rabbani was an Islamic fundamentalist like the taliban



Everyone knows you have been milking the Afghanistan cow. Now you are telling you do not want any more money. Ok everyone believes you

toiletless shithole's media feed you this, not your fault. You Low IQ bhangis are victim.. They will never educate your kind that despite their shithole being biggest begger from every aid giving nation, Pakistan spent 65 out of 70 years better then their subhuman kind on per capita income, still have less poverty and big middle class.


want to troll further?

 

[wiseone2]

don't make stupid claims Indian were in full support Ahmed Shah Masood even at that time

Same forces which didn't killed Osama in Khartoum, the same forces who didn't captured Osama when his airplane made a stop in Sharja, the same forces who facilitated the escape of Osama from Torabora

again show of Hypocrisy...
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Link from Ministry of Foreign Affairs India: Visit of H.E. Professor Burhanuddin Rabbani Chairman High Peace Council of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan

http://indianexpress.com/article/news-archive/web/rabbani-to-visit-india-with-15member-delegation/http://indianexpress.com/article/news-archive/web/rabbani-to-visit-india-with-15member-delegation/

Failure to kill does not imply support
Your links are Rabbani in 2011

All these counter-charges do not absolve Pakistan of its role in creating a barbarian ideology like the Taliban
At the end of the day Pakistan and Taliban chose not to expel Osama Bin Laden after 1998. You allowed him to continue with his crazy ideology and ended up with 9/11

 

[Rollno21]

Same forces which didn't killed Osama in Khartoum, the same forces who didn't captured Osama when his airplane made a stop in Sharja, the same forces who facilitated the escape of Osama from Torabora

again show of Hypocrisy...

Are these same forces which where operating in abbottabad and let him live peacefully next to a Pakistani military base.

 

[wiseone2]

Are these same forces which where operating in abbottabad and let him live peacefully next to a Pakistani military base.

that was a nice house too

 

[DarX]

Failure to kill does not imply support
Your links are Rabbani in 2011

All these counter-charges do not absolve Pakistan of its role in creating a barbarian ideology like the Taliban
At the end of the day Pakistan and Taliban chose not to expel Osama Bin Laden after 1998. You allowed him to continue with his crazy ideology and ended up with 9/11

Pakistan did not create the Taliban. The Taliban movement started in reaction to the brutalities of the warlords and as it was made up mostly of the Pakhtoons, who reside in Pakistan as well and so it was natural for Pakistan to support them. Please do keep in mind that India supported the murderous communist governments imposed by its ally Soviet Union, and when it collapsed, India started supporting the Northern Alliance. The only difference between them was that the Taliban won and the Northern Alliance was bottled up in the Panjshir valley.

 

[HRK]

Are these same forces which where operating in abbottabad and let him live peacefully next to a Pakistani military base.

ah again Indian hypocrisy .....
Can you plz name who was tasked to recruit Foreign Mujaheddin (specially from middle east) during Afghan-Soviet war ....???
Can plz quote the number of American troops on ground for the capture of Osama in Tora Bora .....??
Can you tell who hired the a local commander of Northern Alliance to surround the Toraboar region ....???
If you can name those force than I am sure you do recognize those FORCES WHO WERE SAVING OSAMA FOR ALL THAT LONG PERIOD .... not the force who are functioning in Abbottbad who actually assisted in the capture of Osama

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: As the President said, Pakistani cooperation had assisted in this lead, as we pursued it. So we’re continuing to work this issue right now. We are very concerned about -- that he was inside of Pakistan, but this is something that we’re going to continue to work with the Pakistani government on.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2011/05/02/press-briefing-senior-administration-officials-killing-osama-bin-laden