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ISLAMABAD: The federal government has asked the
Supreme Court to reconsider a ban on hunting
houbara bustard by foreign dignitaries, saying the
restriction was adversely affecting the country’s
already-weakened relations with the Gulf states in
the wake of turmoil in the region.
“The petition involved a question of fundamental
importance having direct bearing upon foreign
relations of the federation with the Gulf states,” the
Ministry of Foreign Affairs pleaded in a petition
seeking a review of the Aug 19 verdict.
A three-judge Supreme Court bench, headed by
then Chief Justice Jawwad S Khawaja, had ordered
the federal and provincial governments not to
grant licences or permits to hunt the endangered
bird in the future.
But the federal government argued that the matter
concerned the country’s external affairs, matters
the superior courts usually avoided interfering
with.
The review petition pleaded that falconry is a
significant feature of Pakistan’s relations with
Middle Eastern countries. Falconry is not merely a
sport for Arabs, but also one of their most
cherished customs and recognised as a cultural
heritage by Unesco.
Supreme Court asked to lift ban on
hunting of houbara bustard
For over four decades, the petition recalled, the
Ministry of Foreign Affairs had been extending
invitations to Arab dignitaries for the sustainable
hunting of the houbara bustard through falconry,
in view of Pakistan’s strong fraternal and
diplomatic relations with Gulf countries. The
permits were issued following a strict code of
conduct issued by the Foreign Ministry.
Since inviting Arab dignitaries to hunt in Pakistan
was a “cornerstone of foreign policy”, in
continuance of past practice, foreign dignitaries
were invited to Pakistan for the 2014-2015 hunting
season.
The petition contended that under the provincial
wildlife laws of Punjab, Sindh and Khyber
Pakhtunkhwa (KP), the respective provincial
governments have statutory power to remove any
category of wildlife from the schedule of protected
animals.
In Balochistan, the houbara bustard is a game
animal under the Balochistan Wildlife (Protection,
Preservation, Conservation and Management) Act
2014 and the hunting of this species is permissible
under the law, subject to certain conditions.
By placing a complete ban on the hunting of the
houbara bustard, the Supreme Court had travelled
beyond the scope of law since the vires of
provincial wildlife laws were admittedly never in
question. Besides, none of the provisions of these
laws were struck down by the court for being
unconstitutional, the review said.
Moreover to determine the actual population of the
bird was a complex task that required concerted
efforts. Since the houbara bustard, the review
explained, was a migratory bird and extends its
reach from Egypt to Mongolia and China.
It is a well established principle that the protection
of conservation of wildlife species in its natural
habitat can only be achieved through the
sustainable use of natural resources, the petition
said, adding that International Union for
Conservation of Nature (IUCN) recognised that the
economies, cultures and well being of all human
societies depend on the use of biodiversity, rather
than constructing artificial distinction between
people and nature.
The sustainable use of natural resources as defined
by IUCN clearly demonstrates that sustainable use
of wildlife is central to its preservation and
protection. By placing a complete ban, the apex
court has negated well-settled norms of the world
community for the sustainable use of natural
resources.
Moreover, the foreign dignitaries brought with
them considerable finances which were exclusively
used for the development of the people in the areas
where they hunted. Locals are also persuaded to
arrangement for the breeding of the species and,
often, a large number of the birds are released.

Published in Dawn, October 18th , 2015

Inviting Arabs to hunt is pillar of foreign policy: govt - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
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ISLAMABAD: The federal government has asked the
Supreme Court to reconsider a ban on hunting
houbara bustard by foreign dignitaries, saying the
restriction was adversely affecting the country’s
already-weakened relations with the Gulf states in
the wake of turmoil in the region.

Inviting Arabs to hunt is pillar of foreign policy: govt - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

An Indian guy caring for Birds in Pakistan due to hunting. And he doesn't write ANYTHING about India, where humans (Christians and Muslims) are killed worst than these birds and without a reason.

How about you post your opinion on India's problems where humans are getting killed like ants every other day by the Hindu extremists? The last thing you should worry about, is birds across the border. Get your house in order an stop these killings of innocents. Everything else is secondary to you.

Pakistanis can figure this bird thing out themselves. Trust me.

Where is that patwari @Viper0011. lets hear his logic about PMLN govt's rationale of letting Arabs come and kill endangered species on Pakistani soil all because 'its about foreign relations'.. Let's go patwari, give us your logic..

What does a "Patwari" mean??? And I've already given my opinion, IK, Tareen, NS, Mushy, Kiyani, all have these hunting and farm houses, where they hunt, bring their guests to show them their appreciation, provide them with women, alcohol and all, and bribe them if they want them to leave NS"s party and join PTI. This is just how business is done. So why not criticize everyone? The entire world does it the same way. President Bush was a big hunting fan, his close relationships always had fishing and hunting trips with him. There are no issues with hunting.

But now that the case with regards to the Birds is with the SC, they have to rule it. And I have no reason to believe they'll give a wrong decision (unlike IK, who thinks the SC judges were corrupt and all).

@Slav Defence @Horus @Irfan Baloch : guys does the above post comes under condescending personal insults?? These people who can't debate, write things like this, this is the third chicken of the day. Please take care of it. 2 CC of antibiotic injection will fix the Bird Flu :angel: :enjoy:
 
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An Indian guy caring for Birds in Pakistan due to hunting. And he doesn't write ANYTHING about India, where humans (Christians and Muslims) are killed worst than these birds and without a reason.

How about you post your opinion on India's problems where humans are getting killed like ants every other day by the Hindu extremists? The last thing you should worry about, is birds across the border. Get your house in order an stop these killings of innocents. Everything else is secondary to you.

Pakistanis can figure this bird thing out themselves. Trust me.
I just posted a news item to see the opinions of different people on this subject..according to me only people with slave mentality will stoop to the level of allowing foreigners to come and hunt endangered species in their land...
 
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I just posted a news item to see the opinions of different people on this subject..according to me only people with slave mentality will stoop to the level of allowing foreigners to come and hunt endangered species in their land...

I appreciate the notion. But how about a MUCH bigger thing? Your OWN citizens killing your other citizens from minorities based on "Eating Habits"??? This is A LOT more disturbing to me than Birds in Pakistan. What's your take on this situation in India, where Hindu extremist kill innocent people due to their Meat eating habits??? This is FAR serious of a situation then Birds and Foreigners in another country. Let's see what you have to explain to us as you are from India, you would know a lot more than we would....please share :enjoy:
 
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I appreciate the notion. But how about a MUCH bigger thing? Your OWN citizens killing your other citizens from minorities based on "Eating Habits"??? This is A LOT more disturbing to me than Birds in Pakistan. What's your take on this situation in India, where Hindu extremist kill innocent people due to their Meat eating habits??? This is FAR serious of a situation then Birds and Foreigners in another country. Let's see what you have to explain to us as you are from India, you would know a lot more than we would....please share :enjoy:
Create a separate thread for that...I will discuss it there
 
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Create a separate thread for that...I will discuss it there

You took the initiative to open this thread up about Birds being hunted in Pakistan. How about you open up the other thread as the issue I brought up, is much more grave in nature, that Innocents are getting killed in India from Indian minorities by the elite Hindus please?
 
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You took the initiative to open this thread up about Birds being hunted in Pakistan. How about you open up the other thread as the issue I brought up, is much more grave in nature, that Innocents are getting killed in India from Indian minorities by the elite Hindus please?

Mate, stick to the topic and debate if you have a point on-topic....why troll. Is talking off topic not among don'ts of PDF??
 
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You took the initiative to open this thread up about Birds being hunted in Pakistan. How about you open up the other thread as the issue I brought up, is much more grave in nature, that Innocents are getting killed in India from Indian minorities by the elite Hindus please?

How about we open a thread on murdering black people by white lunatics esp your police? Rasicm enticed murder of blacks is something of a much grave concern as you paranoid gun-trotting Americans go about shooting everything you please about and then question the moral ethics of others, How about you grant some of your much talked freedom to the endangered houbara bustard? Perhaps you will once it starts shitting Oil.
And going about killing of Christians and Muslims, I don't have to remind you the atrocities committed by the church on non-catholic people.. Your religion is one of the most shrewd and treacherous people ever. You commit crimes and then try to hush them up by offering something priceless and blame others for doing the same. Muslims were (and some still are) barbarians who went about looting, plundering and raping everything that came in their path like mindless monsters. Hindus were and are the most tolerant and oppressed people (even in their own country) and taking a stand against those that violate their beliefs and culture does not make them extremists (although I condemn the killing and lynching). Atleast what happened had a reason behind it compared to the mindless shootings that happen in your country by kids who get traumatized as they can't handle the metric system.:sniper:
 
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How about we open a thread on murdering black people by white lunatics esp your police?

I can do that if I deem necessary. You can trust me on my black skin for it :cheers:. But its not necessary. So instead of playing human rights and bird right champions across the globe, how about you discuss the most unfortunate and gravest of all issues India faces right now, that is, she's failing to protect her minorities. People get killed because of what they eat, and the Hindu fanatics can just take a human life away like they killed an ant!!!! Its increased since Modi came in. So put some light on it as you obviously know more than us, who follow the media and news papers :enjoy:
 
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So instead of playing human rights and bird right champions across the globe, how about you discuss the most unfortunate and gravest of all issues India faces right now, that is, she's failing to protect her minorities. People get killed because of what they eat, and the Hindu fanatics can just take a human life away like they killed an ant!!!!

The only country where Muslims are safe is India my friend and I can bet my reputation on that, they are not even safe in Islamic countries (Pakistan, Syria etc). In no country you will be able to watch the sunrise by abusing the majority. Muslims in India are treated with respect and on the topic of protecting the minorities, there are some Muslims who try to breach the peace by spewing hatred and doing mischief and disturbing the unity the cost of which is paid by innocent Muslims. We all saw how much you cracked down not just on muslims but also on hindus and sikhs post 9/11 (and still are on the account of hate crime), you didn't even spare an octogenarian Sikh jogging in peace and left him paralyzed, so don't try to lecture someone who has seen his country scarred by Islamic jihad be it Kashmir, 1993 Mumbai Bomb blasts, 26/11 and lot more. It is perfectly natural to feel threatened by a community that has a history of being volatile yet we try to exercise restrain and practice tolerance as much as we can. Cow is worshipped by Hindus and treated like their mother & killing a cow has never been taken lightly and its high time that the sentiments of the majority are respected.

And on your point of killing ease like it was killing an ant, I do't have to remind you the shooting that took place in the theater during the screening of Dark Knight Rises. How many people were killed on the press of a trigger? 12? ...and during the recent school shooting. I hope you read the newspaper.
 
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