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Pakistan Vs India 15th June Champions Trophy Match

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Actually Wahab riaz, junaid khan and Mohammad Irfan have more speed than umar gul. These bowlers can touch 146- 149Km/h with good line o length too. We can't add four genuine fast bowlers in the team, We want extra batsman. Wahab is replacement of Umar gul, wahab riaz can bat well, at-least better than gul. Yeah we are missing abdur razzaq, afridi and younus khan. I hope that they will get spot in the team. Also Mohamamd sami can bowl 150km/h is also sitting on the bench. :undecided:

I saw Umar Gul bowl in 2009. And no one can bowl yorkers at will like him. He won you the T20 in 2009 in England.
With such a track record how can you leave a bowler like that behind.

I didn't see a single ball in block hole from anyone you mentioned last night. And not one ball that intimated the Indian. If I have to rate the Pakistani Pace attack then they are probably at the bottom compared to other Pakistani Greats. Remember Pakistan has a history of Great Fast bowlers. Speed is not everything. The experience of Gul would have been great. You don't send all the rookies at the same time. Best is to mix experience and youth.

Yeah your spinners are still great. No question about them.
 
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Actually Wahab riaz, junaid khan and Mohammad Irfan have more speed than umar gul. These bowlers can touch 146- 149Km/h with good line o length too. We can't add four genuine fast bowlers in the team, We want extra batsman. Wahab is replacement of Umar gul, wahab riaz can bat well, at-least better than gul. Yeah we are missing abdur razzaq, afridi and younus khan. I hope that they will get spot in the team. Also Mohamamd sami can bowl 150km/h is also sitting on the bench. :undecided:

Bowling is not Pakistan's concern but batting is. Someone needs to guide them properly. They look just pathetic when they are batting. No one there to influence them or guide them. Senior players struggling in between themselves. Time to change some out-of-form batsmen with some good young players.
 
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I saw Umar Gul bowl in 2009. And no one can bowl yorkers at will like him. He won you the T20 in 2009 in England.
With such a track record how can you leave a bowler like that behind.

Best is to mix experience and youth.

Yeah your spinners are still great. No question about them.


Yeah umar gul is indeed a great fast bowler!! New fast bowlers are also getting wickets... I hope that he will come back.
Our only issue is batting!! We can't play 50 overs..................
Ahmad shehzad, imran nazir, Younus khan, Abdur razzaq, afridi and umar akmal should come in the team. This will add more depth in the batting lineup...
This is my team....
Shahid afridi
Imran Nazir
Ahmad shehzad
Jamshaid
Younus khan
Umar Akmal
Abdul razaaq
Wahab riaz
Junaid Khan
Mohamamd Irfan
Saeed ajmal

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Bowling is not Pakistan's concern but batting is. Someone needs to guide them properly. They look just pathetic when they are batting. No one there to influence them or guide them. Senior players struggling in between themselves. Time to change some out-of-form batsmen with some good young players.

We had only few senior player in the team........ This is the reason we lost.....
I don't know the plan and reason behind the selection committee .. they kicked out many senior players.........
 
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We had only few senior player in the team........ This is the reason we lost.....

Why is Umar Akmal out of the team? In my opinion beacuase of Misbah pakistan is loosing too many matches. He is playing test in ODIs and at the time of hitting he just get out. strike rate less than a debutant bowler.

We had only few senior player in the team........ This is the reason we lost.....

If seniors do not guide juniors properly whom to blame. Politics in sports will kill it just like hockey in India.
 
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Why is Umar Akmal out of the team? In my opinion beacuase of Misbah pakistan is loosing too many matches. He is playing test in ODIs and at the time of hitting he just get out. strike rate less than a debutant bowler.

Yeah we are loosing due to defensive strategy. This is very bad captaincy.
Just look the Pak south Africa highlights. Target was 234 but we got only 18 runs in the first 10 over.
We should kick out Misbah, selection committee and this foreign coach watmore......... Pakistan was on peak under the coaching of Mohsin khan.
 
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Yeah we are loosing due to defensive strategy. This is very bad captaincy.
Just look the Pak south Africa highlights. Target was 234 but we got only 18 runs in the first 10 over.
We should kick out Misbah, selection committee and this foreign coach watmore......... Pakistan was on peak under the coaching of Mohsin khan.

Actually bowlers are harassed in these situation. For example they bowled out a team for 170/180 etc. But then batsmen are just failing to chase down these mere ones. If this happens one or two matches i.e right. But if it happen again and again there is something wrong. It will affect also the ability of bowlers. Don't worry bro. Everything will be fine.
 
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@Bhai Zakir

Who are you trying to fool with those selective pictures? We all know the emotions your community feel internally for India and that is deception until it is made Dar ul Islam
what the f*ck are you talking about mate!you are questioning the loyalty of an Indian citizen who is as much patriot as we are if not more!its because of guys like you that Hindu Nationalists get bad names.and btw before you start to blabber b.s. let me remind you one thing that a Hindu Nationalist will never ever question about the patriotism of a true Indian like Zakir!shame on you for being an A**H**E:angry:!
 
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tera to full popat ho gaya..... :P

and who takes the credit? a bunch of self righteous flag bearers of secularsim? i dont even give a hoot....these are fundamentalist people who just got offended by truth.
 
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Champions Trophy: Key factors which helped India defeat Pakistan

India defeated Pakistan - by 8 wickets (D/L method) - for the first time ever in any edition of Champions Trophy. It was a solid performance through the course of a rain-hit clash.


Edgbaston: It may have been a dead rubber with India already in the semifinals and Pakistan out of the tournament. Both teams, however, looked intent on fighting hard. The Men in Green however came out second best in a match that was repeatedly threatened and curtailed by rain. Here is a look at some of the key moments from the match that contributed towards the eventual result.

Scorecard | Schedule | Stats | Points Table | Teams and Squads

* The track and the weather: Most regarded this as a track on which batting first would be the right decision. India skipper MS Dhoni though opted to field under a cloudy sky. It proved to be a good decision as eventual downpour caused further stutter to an already rickety Pakistan's innings. After an interval of over two and a half hours, Pakistan tried to rush the scoring in a rain-reduced 40 overs a side match. Match resumed after 19 overs and Pakistan folded two balls short of the full quota of stipulated overs.

* Pakistan's continuing batting woes: This team scored 167 against South Africa and 170 vs West Indies. At least opener Nasir Jamshed, apart from Misbah, looked in some form with a half century coming into this match. On Friday, he fell early to Bhuvneshwar (2 off 9 in the third over). The rest of the batting caved in despite a few others getting some starts including Asad Shafiq (41 off 57). There was a need for someone to play aggressively and yet play the long innings. That did not happen.

* Spin and seam, India's deadly cocktail: At 23, Bhuvneshwar Kumar responds to pressure by shining bright. Against Pakistan on Saturday, he shone brightest with not just two wickets but a stingy economy of 2.37 from his eight overs - good enough to be declared the man of the match. He was hardly wayward in his line and length and this helped him force Pakistan batsmen to either make mistakes or tread too cautiously for their own liking. Once he was given a respite, Ravindra Jadeja and R Ashwin were brought in ensuring that relief of Pakistan only came when the skies opened up.

* Dhawan's resilience, Kohli's form: Pakistan's bowing has been a minor saving grace for the side but against Shikhar Dhawan, it fell flat. An orignal target of 168 from 40 overs could have been defended yet if early inroads were made. With this southpaw to deal with at the top, it never happened. Dhawan was a pillar of resistance and kept the scorecard ticking without much risk. Even when he eventually fell on 48, Virat Kohli (22 with 3 boundaries) took over and showed he is ready for the business end of the tournament.

At the beginning of the match, the Indian team was the favourite to win Saturday's match. In the end, it was a culmination of the reasons above which helped the men in blue enter the semis without a single blemish.

Champions Trophy: Key factors which helped India defeat Pakistan | ICC Champions Trophy 2013 - Features | NDTVSports.com

and who takes the credit? a bunch of self righteous flag bearers of secularsim? i dont even give a hoot....these are fundamentalist people who just got offended by truth.

Mate, Dikkat kha a rahi hai???:undecided:
 
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and who takes the credit? a bunch of self righteous flag bearers of secularsim? i dont even give a hoot....these are fundamentalist people who just got offended by truth.

That's not the truth my boy..... being from one community, I have grown up with friends from the other community. I have grown up with people from the community u r speaking about surrounding me. SO how come I didn't face that. you are categorizing selectively. Troublemakers are there in every community, whether it is mine, yours or any others. So don't generalize falsely boy.
 
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@anyrandom

Indians like @Bhai Zakir are the only true Muslims you will find anywhere in the world- tolerant and free.


GO crawl under your rock, the world is better off without ignorant, bigoted Cretans like you.

Obviously a false flag.

Most likely the one whose **** has been whooped on this thread. ;)
 
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