Don Jaguar
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Mujhe tu cricket bilkul pasand nahi hai.
Damn waste of time.
Damn waste of time.
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I don't understand what's wrong there..same team, same spinners and same pitches where they beat England in three consecutive test matches and now they lost three consecutive one days. why magic of ajmal did not work in one days. I thought its difficult to win test matches as compare to one days but here its different story
when it was 70 for 4, i knew this would be a real flopper......Afridi did well, but overall our batting is shyte. We beat the #1 test team, but now in ODI (where we should be crushing them) we are performing sub-standard
the lineup is not good....on fielding, we have spinners, we need some fast bowlers
i hope we can at least end the ODI lose-streak by crushing them in the remaining odi
Abou,
It was very obvious that england would take us out in the one dayers---. It is a totally different game---please read Ramiz Raja's article in today's jang----. He talksabout how australia has changed players for their T20 format as well as the one dayers---as has england---.
Where is Strauss-----he doesn't even fit into the picture----but is the test captain---. How abput Misbah----he hardly fits into the test side---but is a good thoughtfull leader---but can't lead from the fron in the one dayers or the T20---. He is there for only one reason-----GREED---. As long as he can milk that captain's paycheck--he will keep on doing it.
Seems like that was the promise made to him by Rehman malik for throwing the semi final against india.
In their one day squad---pakistan has a very long tail. The magic of spin only lasts for so long---the opponent is not an idiot and the pitch doesnot favour the spin all the time---.
We should at least try the younger fast bowlers and all rounders instead of making them sit on the benches and get older without gaining much in way of real international experience.
Sure they are going to get thrashed by good sides in some matches but room for improvement is there if you are young and hungry.
There are plenty of young ones but what is surprising for me is that even in T20 matches we have been reluctant to field new faces.
We should field a very young team with only few seniors during the T20 matches so that young stars are exposed to the international teams in a format which suits a more cavalier approach, it has been too long since we saw the aggression in pace bowling and batting at the top of the order that was once there in Pakistan team in ODIs.
We need to rebuild our pace attack and we need to do it as soon as possible.
We also need a few young and aggressive top order batsmen and all rounders to be persisted with in T20s and ODIs.
If temperament is sound then the youngsters can be given test caps.
I agree with the opinion that all three teams should be picked on requirement of the format and can be very different from each other. Misbah is a great Test captain and has done brilliantly well in Tests, however Afridi was doing very well as an ODI captain and being a highly effective ODI player, he was high on confidence in the format as well.
Having Afridi as ODI captain will not only relieve pressure on Misbah (who must be miserable right now) but shall have added benefit due to Afridi's retirement from Test cricket which shall ensure that there is no axe to grind between the two.
Maybe we should not think in terms of one cricket team, but three teams for three formats with emphasis on introducing maximum youngsters in T20Is and at least some in the ODI squad.
While it can be that there are players and captains suited to all formats, it should not be an automatic selection without any periodic review.
Gul is not at all an attacking and penetrative pace spearhead like his predecessors the Ws, Shoaib, Aamir etc. and he lacks the brilliant control and cunning of Asif.
He is even less of a threat with the new ball and with the new rules in ODI, that is biting us even more.
Gul is a good bowler, but the pressure on him has been a lot after the sad fate of Amir and Asif, he is just not gifted enough to be a spearhead of a team with a fast bowling legacy of Pakistan.
Gul always lacked confidence and control with the new ball (himself admitted he liked to bowl with older ball) and now there are two new balls in ODI which instead of being an advantage as demonstrated by England pace attack, is becoming a major problem for Gul and Pakistan.
With even Lesser chances of reverse swing due to the new rules, lack of a good new ball bowler is something that cannot be compensated for at all in the late overs.
We need to let the more talented younger fast bowlers in the team now in order to have a long term pace attack, Cheema is quite old and does not hold much promise for the future.
I see many quick, aggressive and talented bowlers in our domestic cricket, we need to risk experimenting with them to build the future.
Junaid and Wahab should be given some time to prove themselves and if found wanting we should go for the other young bowlers, however Gul cannot be expected to handle all formats as the lone spearhead with the new ball.
I believe there is an abundance of talent available - there is no doubt in all our minds. The problem moving forward sir is hindered in 2 ways. The greed of certain players and their aspirations and secondly the failiure of the management to have the balls to change. The philosophy of "he has done it in the past - he has been great for our game" is wrong and worn down now. Inzi outstayed his stay alongside others in the past who simply are focused on just one thing. Themselves. Please dont get me wrong Inzi was a world beater - just dragged it on too long and blocked places for youngsters to merge.
The board are the guilty party. Their management is more mismanagement orientated.
I will give you a basic example of why i am puzzled at the way they work.
In 2006 Pakistan U19s played against India in the final. Pakistan won an astonishing game. Some incredible bowling from Anwar Khan, Jamshed Ahmed and Akhtar Ayub as shown below. The India side included 6 players that have represented their nation including the likes of Rohit Sharma, Jadeja and Suresh Raina. Not 1 player from Pakistan has moved up. Why? If we in 6 years cant develpo 1 player into the first team then there is something seriously wrong with our national set up.
For the record please view and enjoy..........
Pakistan Vs India Worldcup under-19 final 2006 - YouTube