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WASHINGTON: Islamabad used to support terror outfits as a hedge against India and an unfriendly Afghan regime, so that the two neighbours of Pakistan do not undermine it, US secretary of state Hillary Clinton said.

"They (Pakistan) have in the past hedged against both India and an unfriendly regime in Afghanistan by supporting groups that will be their proxies in trying to prevent either India or an unfriendly Afghan Government from undermining their position," she said.

Clinton said now things are "changing", but she cannot confirm whether Pakistan has stopped the use of terror against India and Afghanistan.

"That is changing... Now, I cannot sit here and tell you that it has changed, but that is changing," she told ABC News in an interview, the transcripts of which was released by the state department.

Clinton accepted that US had created certain radical outfits and supported terrorists like Osama bin Laden to fight against the erstwhile Soviet Union, but that backing has boomeranged.

"Part of what we are fighting against right now, the United States created. We created the Mujahidin force against the Soviet Union (in Afghanistan). We trained them, we equipped them, we funded them, including somebody named Osama bin Laden.

"And it didn't work out so well for us," she said. The secretary of the state also said Pakistan is paying a "big price" for supporting US war against terror groups in their own national interest.

"But I think it is important to note that as they have made these adjustments in their own assessment of their national interests, they're paying a big price for it," Clinton said.

"And it's not an easy calculation for them to make. But we are making progress (in Afghanistan). We have a long way to go and we can't be impatient...Well, the headlines are bad. We're going home. We cannot do that," she said.

Appearing on the same ABC show, secretary of defence Robert Gates said Pakistan has withdrawn an equivalent of about six divisions of its army from the Indian border and moved them.

"And they are attacking the Taliban. They're attacking the Taliban -- Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, and safe havens that are a problem for us," Gates said.

"But the other piece of this, we face in both countries what they call a trust deficit, and it is because they believe we have walked away from them in the past at the toughest moments of their history.

"You can't recreate that (trust) in a heartbeat. You can't recreate that in a year or two. They both worry that once we solve the problem in Afghanistan, or if we don't solve it, that either way, we will leave and leave whatever remains in their hands to deal with," he added.

Read more: Pakistan used terror as a hedge against India: Hillary Clinton - The Times of India Pakistan used terror as a hedge against India: Hillary Clinton - The Times of India
 
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lol...hahaha...they made by themselves....this is not a editorial its an article based on facts...
 
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She didn't Pakistan used terror, she said Pakistan supported groups. We will always support separatist groups in Kashmir and Hillary should defer to her president, her boss, who rightfully called Kashmir a dispute meaning not India.
 
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She didn't Pakistan used terror, she said Pakistan supported groups. We will always support separatist groups in Kashmir and Hillary should defer to her president, her boss, who rightfully called Kashmir a dispute meaning not India.
hey asim..pls elaborate the heading and tell me about the afgani issues..
 
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YES so what, we will use and support anyone, which we find good in our interest.

Thats the Mantra of the times. :cheers:
 
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hey asim..pls elaborate the heading and tell me about the afgani issues..
Pakistan supported the Taliban back in the 90s, no secret there. Why should we support anti-Pak governments over Pro-Pak governments?

---------- Post added at 12:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:15 PM ----------

The point to note is the same sentence did not have the word "terror" in it, yet Yellow Indian media has inserted it in their headlines
 
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This is copy of the transcript..

Transcript: Sec. of State Hillary Clinton and Sec. of Defense Robert Gates Speak With ABC's Cynthia McFadden - ABC News


McFADDEN: But isn't it a strange, open, duplicitous, bizarre relationship? You go to Congress and ask for $2 billion for the Pakistanis, and we know that in part they're supporting the Al-Qaida.

CLINTON: Well they're not support Al-Qaida. They are...

McFADDEN: . . . They are certainly supporting the Taliban, and the Taliban is supporting Al-Qaida.

CLINTON: Well they have in the past hedged against both India and an unfriendly regime in Afghanistan by supporting groups that will be their proxies in trying to prevent either India or an unfriendly Afghan government from undermining their position. That is changing. Now I cannot sit here and tell you that it has changed, but that is changing. And again . . .

McFADDEN: . . . And if it doesn't change, would you recommend not giving the $2 billion next year?

CLINTON: Well, what we have done is through intensive consultations with both the civilian, the military and the intelligence leadership in Pakistan, you know, had very frank conversations about what we expect. But I think it is important to note that as they have made these adjustments in their own assessment of their national interests, they're paying a big price for it. It's not an easy calculation for them to make, but we are making progress.

We have a long way to go, and we have to -- we can't be impatient. We can't say, well, you know, the headlines are bad, we're going home. We cannot do that. Part of what we are fighting against, right now, the United States created. We created the Mujahideen force against the Soviet Union. We trained them, we equipped them, we funded them, including somebody named Osama Bin Laden. And then when we finally saw the end of the Soviet Army crossing back out of Afghanistan, we all breathed a sigh of relief and said, okay, fine, we're out of there. And it didn't work out so well for us.

GATES: This is a problem that we have with both Afghanistan and Pakistan. First of all I just note, Pakistanis now have 140,000 troops on on their north western border. They've withdrawn the equivalent of about six divisions from the Indian border and moved them, and they are attacking ah Taliban. They're attacking the Taliban, the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, and but they are also attacking groups that, in safe havens, that are a problem for us.

But the other piece of this, just to pile onto what Secretary Clinton said, we face in both countries what they call a trust deficit, and it is because they believe we have walked away from them in the past, at the toughest moments of their history. You can't recreate that in a heartbeat. You can't recreate that in a year or two. They both worry that once we've solved the problem in Afghanistan, or if we don't solve it, that either way we will leave, and leave whatever remains in their hands to deal with. Now we're not leaving. We will drawn down our troops over a period of time, but we have every intention of of being active and aggressively involved in Afghanistan and also a long term relationship with Pakistan. But convincing them that we mean that and that we will deliver on that is something we've been working at. And I think we've made some headway, as Secretary Clinton said, but it's a work in progress.

McFADDEN: So not not to in any way underestimate the problem, but the whole problem of Al-Qaida is almost like a game of Whack-A-Mole. I mean, yes, great, Afghanistan. But when you look at Yemen which has, what, five or six times the number of Al-Qaida, why aren't we in Yemen? Why aren't we in Somalia?

GATES: First of all, I think frankly Hillary put it best in the hearing we did together. What what you have seen develop, first of all that border area between Afghanistan and Pakistan is is the epicenter of terrorism, because whether you're in Yemen or Somalia or in Asia or wherever else, they are getting encouragement, they are taking inspiration, and often they are taking guidance from Osama Bin Laden and Zawahiri and their minions who are telling these guys what kind of operations to plan, to keep their focus on the U.S. and so on.

Furthermore, they have created what Hillary calls the syndicate of terror, with it is not just Al-Qaida, it's the Taliban in Pakistan, it's the Taliban in Afghanistan, it's the Haqqani network, it's all these different groups. And a success for one becomes a success for all. So if we don't deal with that problem, then we are going to have a challenge of our own security. And the tentacles spread to a lot of different places, North Africa, Yemen, elsewhere.
 
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She didn't Pakistan used terror, she said Pakistan supported groups. We will always support separatist groups in Kashmir and Hillary should defer to her president, her boss, who rightfully called Kashmir a dispute meaning not India.

And Not Pakistan either.. Dont forget the part illegally occupied by Pakistan
 
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Nice fairy tale from TOI(LET) :tdown:

By that definition, your tribune is down the toilet too..


Pakistan used terror as a hedge against India: Clinton – The Express Tribune

Pakistan used terror as a hedge against India: Clinton

WASHINGTON: United States (US) Secretary of State Hilary Clinton on Saturday said that Pakistan in the past has supported terror outfits as a hedge against India and an unfriendly Afghan regime, so that the two neighbours do not undermine its position.
 
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Yes, well she didn't use the word terrorist. But Hillary clearly doesn't seem to know her place. Who the **** is she talking like this. Her state in the past has supported groups and regimes way more than Pakistan.
 
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They are trying to turn us against each other for there personal Interest, she is ***** with a mind of a Fox:lol:
 
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Some one please tell the indians here that their national sport is hokey and not whining about Pakistan, heck it might as well be. At least get it changed on paper so it wont look stupid.
 
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Some one please tell the indians here that their national sport is hokey and not whining about Pakistan, heck it might as well be. At least get it changed on paper so it wont look stupid.

Didnt know that the Sec of State of USA is an Indian citizen.. Oh wait, she is not.. !!!
 
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Didnt know that the Sec of State of USA is an Indian citizen.. Oh wait, she is not.. !!!

Aint she the part of a gov who so desperately needs your money, heck that talks volumes about her.
 
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