Pakistan UAVs News & Discussions

[fatman17]

Integrated Dynamics of Karachi produces short range, low endurance minature UAV's namely the Border Eagle, which is in use by the US along its frontier with Mexico. its military development, Border Hawk may be operational with the Pakistan Army

 

[fatman17]

Country Pakistan
Prime Contractor…......Designation…………....Status…………...Launch/Propulsion

Integrated Dynamics….Border Eagle Mk II….In production…..Piston P-P
…………………………………….Desert Hawk………. Under way……. ..Hand-launched
…………………………………….Explorer……………. Under way……. ....G-L, T-L P-P
…………………………………….Hawk Mk5………….. Deployed…….. ...GAS prop
…………………………………..Hornet Mk4…………… Deployed……… ..Piston prop
…………………………………..Nishan Mk II………….. Under way…….. GAS P-P
…………………………………..Nishan TJ 1000………. Under way…….. Mini-turbo
…………………………………..Pride…………………… Under way……. ......H-L -Electric prop
…………………………………..Rover Mk-1…………… Under way…….. ..H-L - Electric P-P
…………………………………..Shadow Mk-I………….. Under way……. .P-P
………………………………….SKYCAM………………. Under way…….. .....H-L - Electric P-P
………………………………….Spirit……………………..Under way…….. .....H-L -Electric prop
………………………………….Tornado 2000…………. Under way……… ..Mini-turbojet - C-L
………………………………….Vector…………………… Under way……. .....Twin-boom P-P
………………………………….Vision Mk1/Mk2……….. Under way……… ..P-P
NESCOM……………… .....Burraq…………………… Unknown
SATUMA……………… .....Flamingo…………………. Completed…….. G-L - GAS prop
…………………………………..FST........................Deployed………. G-L - GAS P-P
…………………………………..HST……………………… ....Deployed………. G-L - GAS P-P
………………………………….Jasoos II/Bravo+………… Deployed………. GAS P-P
…………………………………Mukhbar………………….. ...Completed……….. G-L - GAS P-P
…………………………………Shooting Star…………….. Deployed………… RATO - Turbojet
…………………………………Stingray…………………… Under way……….. B-L -Electric prop
…………………………………Sky-C……………………… Under way……….. H-L -Electric prop
…………………………………Thunder SR………………. Deployed………… C-L - GAS
…………………………………Thunder LR………………. Deployed…………. C-L - GAS
Technocrafts………….. Ababeel…………………… Under way
…………………………………Jumbo Baaz……………… Under way………… Gas/oil rotary


KEY TO ABBREVIATIONS & ACRONYMS

ACTD Advanced Concept & Technology Demonstrator
Ag Agriculture/Crop Monitoring
A-L Air Launched
AMW Anti-Mine Warfare
AP Aerial Photography
ASW Anti-Submarine Warfare
ATA Air-Air (missile/gun attack)
ATOL Automatic Takeoff/Landing
ATG Air-Ground (missile/gun attack)
BAMS Broad-Area Maritime Surveillance
BCTM-2 Brigade Combat Team Modernization (BCTM) Increment 2
BDA Battle Damage Assessment
B-L Bungee-Launched
BLOS Beyond Line-of-Sight
BP Border Patrol
BWB Blended Wing Body
Can Canister
CAS Civil Air Surveillance
CAV Compact Air Vehicle
Chem Chemical Detection
CICADA Close-In Covert Autonomous Disposable Aircraft
CIRPAS Center for Interdisciplinary Remotely Piloted Aircraft Studies
C-L Catapult-Launched
COIN Counter-Insurgency
COMM Communications
EFI Electronic Fuel Injection
ELINT Electronic Intelligence
Env Environmental Monitoring
E/O Electro/Optical
EOD Explosive Ordnance Disposal
EW Electronic Warfare
FCS Future Combat System
FW Fixed Wing
GAS Gasoline Engine
G-L Ground Launched
gMAV Gasoline Micro Air Vehicle
H&S Hover and Stare
HALE High Altitude/Long Endurance
HF Heavry Fuel
H-L Hand-Launched
HS Homeland Security
ImiNT Images Intelligence
Infra Infrastructure Monitoring
IR Infrared
ISR Intelligence/Survellance/Reconnaissance
ISTAR Intelligence/Surveillance/Target Acquisition/Reconnaissance
ISTAR-A Intelligence/Surveillance/Target Acquisition/Reconnaissance-Attack
JCTD Joint Capability Technology Demonstration
LALE Low Altitude/Long Endurance
LAS Lightweight Aerostat System
LCS Littoral Combat Ship
LH2 Liquid Hydrogen
LOS Line of Sight
LR Long Range
LRIP Low-Rate Initial Production
LTA Lighter Than Air
MAGIC Medium Altitude Global ISR and Communications
MALE Medium Altitude/Long Endurance
MALE-EP Medium Altitude/Long Endurance/Extreme Persistence
Map Aerial Mapping
MAV Micro Air Vehicle
MDA Maritime Domain Awareness
MM/MR Multimission/Multirole
MOGAS Motor Gasoline
MR Medium Range
M/UAV Optionally Manned or Unmanned Aerial Vehicle
NOAA National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
OPV Optionally Piloted Vehicle
OTH Over The Horizon
P&S Perch and Stare
PID Positive Identification
P-P Pusher Prop
Rad Radiation Detection
RATO Rocket Assisted Takeoff
RCU Remote Control Unit
RDT&E Research, Development, Test & Evaluation
Recon Reconnaissance
RF Radio Frequency
R-L Rail-Launched
R/S Reconnaissance/Surveillance
RSTA Reconnaissance/Surveillance/ Target Acquisition
RTA Reconnaissance/Target Acquisition
RTA-A Reconnaissance/Target Acquisition-Attack
S Stealth
SA Situational Awareness
S&R-SAR Search & Rescue
SIGINT Signals Intelligence
S-Aut Semi-Autonomous
Sea Sea-Launch (surface or submarine)
S-L Ship Launch
SOF Special Operations Forces
SOFC Solid Oxide Fuel Cell
SR Short Range
STAR Surveillance/Target Acquisition/ Reconnaissance
STUAS Small Tactical Unmanned Air System
SUAS Small Unmanned Aerial System
Sub-Tac Sub-Tactical UAV
TA T arget Acquisition
TAS True Air Speed
T-L Transporter Launcher
TUAV Tactical UAV
VLO Very Low Observable
V-LOS Visual Line of Site

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[Nishan_101]

MASHA ALLAH. This is what I used to think about these birds. Also PAC should have reduced their fleet by converting 69 Mushak out of 149 into spares for support and build some new Super Mushak for training purpose...

 

[fatman17]

Pakistan

Meanwhile, across the border Pakistan has a fairly strong indigenous UAV industry, with local companies producing a variety of small and medium UAVs for commercial and military use. The military has great demand for UAVs in order to monitor the Kashmir region and keep an eye on militants, particularly in the mountainous tribal areas bordering Afghanistan.
Some of the main unmanned aircraft companies in Pakistan include Integrated Dynamics, East West Infiniti and state-owned Air Weapons Complex and Pakistan Aeronautical Complex. Satuma (Surveillance and Target Unmanned Aircraft) is a major manufacturer, having developed the Jasoos, the larger and more capable Flamingo, and Mukhbar (a shorter-range version of the Jasoos). The Jasoos is in turn a development of the Air Weapons Complex Bravo+, which has been in Pakistan Air Force service since 2004. The Bravo made its public debut in March 2001.
Global Industrial and Defence Solutions (GIDS) at the IDEAS show in November 2012 showcased its Shahpar 470 kg (1 000 lb) UAV, with an endurance of seven hours. The aircraft is apparently ready for production and will complement GIDS’ Uqab tactical UAV, which is flown by the Pakistan Navy and Army (entering service with the latter in 2007). The Pakistan Navy is also procuring the Integrated Defence Solutions (IDS) Huma rocket-launched UAV, based on the Uqab. This has been developed into the improved Huma-1 and Huma-2 with an endurance of 5+ hours.
Pakistan’s state-owned National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM) is developing the Burraq UAV, which will be fitted with a laser designator and laser-guided missiles, but the status of this programme is uncertain. Pakistan had hoped to acquire a dozen RQ-7B Shadow UAVs in three systems but this procurement project seems to be on hold. In collaboration with Selex Galileo, Pakistan Aeronautical Complex has started manufacturing the Falco UAV. In June 2012 the Pakistan Navy bought eight EMT LUNA UAVs from Germany – the Army acquired the system in 2006, which is essentially an unmanned motor glider.


Asian Defence News

 

[Donatello]

If they have installed the FLIR, i am assuming Mushak are also being used for scout activities? Makes sense since it is cheaper to fly Mushak than to fly over a Mirage RP.

 

[Najam Khan]

If they have installed the FLIR, i am assuming Mushak are also being used for scout activities? Makes sense since it is cheaper to fly Mushak than to fly over a Mirage RP.

Mushshak/Mi-17s are only good for watch-over missions in FATA. When your enemy has no proper airdefence + the target sector is in reachable distance. C-130s equipped with similar systems have much endurance and more 'human-strength' involved; complete change in mission planning can be done in the air with such C-130.

Mirage-IIIRP/F-16 equipped with such pod has armed+recce role. Higher the speed, easier for it to reach back without encountering enemy air defence. Also, such pods add too much electronic detail as compare to a single EO/IR camera mounted under nose of a heli/Mushshak.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Country Pakistan
Prime Contractor…......Designation…………....Status…………...Launch/Propulsion

Integrated Dynamics….Border Eagle Mk II….In production…..Piston P-P
…………………………………….Desert Hawk………. Under way……. ..Hand-launched
…………………………………….Explorer……………. Under way……. ....G-L, T-L P-P
…………………………………….Hawk Mk5………….. Deployed…….. ...GAS prop
…………………………………..Hornet Mk4…………… Deployed……… ..Piston prop
…………………………………..Nishan Mk II………….. Under way…….. GAS P-P
…………………………………..Nishan TJ 1000………. Under way…….. Mini-turbo
…………………………………..Pride…………………… Under way……. ......H-L -Electric prop
…………………………………..Rover Mk-1…………… Under way…….. ..H-L - Electric P-P
…………………………………..Shadow Mk-I………….. Under way……. .P-P
………………………………….SKYCAM………………. Under way…….. .....H-L - Electric P-P
………………………………….Spirit……………………..Under way…….. .....H-L -Electric prop
………………………………….Tornado 2000…………. Under way……… ..Mini-turbojet - C-L
………………………………….Vector…………………… Under way……. .....Twin-boom P-P
………………………………….Vision Mk1/Mk2……….. Under way……… ..P-P
NESCOM……………… .....Burraq…………………… Unknown
SATUMA……………… .....Flamingo…………………. Completed…….. G-L - GAS prop
…………………………………..FST........................Deployed………. G-L - GAS P-P
…………………………………..HST……………………… ....Deployed………. G-L - GAS P-P
………………………………….Jasoos II/Bravo+………… Deployed………. GAS P-P
…………………………………Mukhbar………………….. ...Completed……….. G-L - GAS P-P
…………………………………Shooting Star…………….. Deployed………… RATO - Turbojet
…………………………………Stingray…………………… Under way……….. B-L -Electric prop
…………………………………Sky-C……………………… Under way……….. H-L -Electric prop
…………………………………Thunder SR………………. Deployed………… C-L - GAS
…………………………………Thunder LR………………. Deployed…………. C-L - GAS
Technocrafts………….. Ababeel…………………… Under way
…………………………………Jumbo Baaz……………… Under way………… Gas/oil rotary


KEY TO ABBREVIATIONS & ACRONYMS

ACTD Advanced Concept & Technology Demonstrator
Ag Agriculture/Crop Monitoring
A-L Air Launched
AMW Anti-Mine Warfare
AP Aerial Photography
ASW Anti-Submarine Warfare
ATA Air-Air (missile/gun attack)
ATOL Automatic Takeoff/Landing
ATG Air-Ground (missile/gun attack)
BAMS Broad-Area Maritime Surveillance
BCTM-2 Brigade Combat Team Modernization (BCTM) Increment 2
BDA Battle Damage Assessment
B-L Bungee-Launched
BLOS Beyond Line-of-Sight
BP Border Patrol
BWB Blended Wing Body
Can Canister
CAS Civil Air Surveillance
CAV Compact Air Vehicle
Chem Chemical Detection
CICADA Close-In Covert Autonomous Disposable Aircraft
CIRPAS Center for Interdisciplinary Remotely Piloted Aircraft Studies
C-L Catapult-Launched
COIN Counter-Insurgency
COMM Communications
EFI Electronic Fuel Injection
ELINT Electronic Intelligence
Env Environmental Monitoring
E/O Electro/Optical
EOD Explosive Ordnance Disposal
EW Electronic Warfare
FCS Future Combat System
FW Fixed Wing
GAS Gasoline Engine
G-L Ground Launched
gMAV Gasoline Micro Air Vehicle
H&S Hover and Stare
HALE High Altitude/Long Endurance
HF Heavry Fuel
H-L Hand-Launched
HS Homeland Security
ImiNT Images Intelligence
Infra Infrastructure Monitoring
IR Infrared
ISR Intelligence/Survellance/Reconnaissance
ISTAR Intelligence/Surveillance/Target Acquisition/Reconnaissance
ISTAR-A Intelligence/Surveillance/Target Acquisition/Reconnaissance-Attack
JCTD Joint Capability Technology Demonstration
LALE Low Altitude/Long Endurance
LAS Lightweight Aerostat System
LCS Littoral Combat Ship
LH2 Liquid Hydrogen
LOS Line of Sight
LR Long Range
LRIP Low-Rate Initial Production
LTA Lighter Than Air
MAGIC Medium Altitude Global ISR and Communications
MALE Medium Altitude/Long Endurance
MALE-EP Medium Altitude/Long Endurance/Extreme Persistence
Map Aerial Mapping
MAV Micro Air Vehicle
MDA Maritime Domain Awareness
MM/MR Multimission/Multirole
MOGAS Motor Gasoline
MR Medium Range
M/UAV Optionally Manned or Unmanned Aerial Vehicle
NOAA National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
OPV Optionally Piloted Vehicle
OTH Over The Horizon
P&S Perch and Stare
PID Positive Identification
P-P Pusher Prop
Rad Radiation Detection
RATO Rocket Assisted Takeoff
RCU Remote Control Unit
RDT&E Research, Development, Test & Evaluation
Recon Reconnaissance
RF Radio Frequency
R-L Rail-Launched
R/S Reconnaissance/Surveillance
RSTA Reconnaissance/Surveillance/ Target Acquisition
RTA Reconnaissance/Target Acquisition
RTA-A Reconnaissance/Target Acquisition-Attack
S Stealth
SA Situational Awareness
S&R-SAR Search & Rescue
SIGINT Signals Intelligence
S-Aut Semi-Autonomous
Sea Sea-Launch (surface or submarine)
S-L Ship Launch
SOF Special Operations Forces
SOFC Solid Oxide Fuel Cell
SR Short Range
STAR Surveillance/Target Acquisition/ Reconnaissance
STUAS Small Tactical Unmanned Air System
SUAS Small Unmanned Aerial System
Sub-Tac Sub-Tactical UAV
TA T arget Acquisition
TAS True Air Speed
T-L Transporter Launcher
TUAV Tactical UAV
VLO Very Low Observable
V-LOS Visual Line of Site

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Old data and even no mention of shahpar UAV...

 

[pac-cac]

See Pakistani UAV's

Satuma.com.pk

 

[Bilal.]

Why Pakistani UAVs have short endurance and low payload compared to UAVs of similar size from other countries?

 

[VARYA]

good efort

 

[That Guy]

Why Pakistani UAVs have short endurance and low payload compared to UAVs of similar size from other countries?

They don't.

I think the better question would be "why hasn't Pakistan developed a MALE drone?", and the answer would be both money restraints, and lack of technology.

 

[Bilal.]

They don't.

I think the better question would be "why hasn't Pakistan developed a MALE drone?", and the answer would be both money restraints, and lack of technology.

They do, for instance, compare the size, engine power, payload, endurance and ceiling of Shahpar and Falco.

 

[That Guy]

They do, for instance, compare the size, engine power, payload, endurance and ceiling of Shahpar and Falco.

They're pretty similar, but the main difference is the powerplants. Shahpar uses a Ukrainian power plant, while the Falco uses an Italian power plant. No two UAVs are the same, they all have similar capabilities.

Endurance:

Shahpar = 7-10 hours

Falco = 10-14 hours

Payload:

Shahpar = 50 kg

Falco = 70 Kg

Size:

Shahpar -

Air Vehicle Length = 4.2 m

Wing Span = 6.6 m

Falco -

Length = 5.25 m
Wingspan = 7.2 m

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Not much difference.

There is also the difference of technology and expertise, Pakistan is behind Italy and China, so obviously the Pakistani UAVs won't be as advanced as Italian.

Over all though, they're not that different.

 

[Bilal.]

As per GIDS site shahpar's endurance is ~ 7 hours that's just 50% of falco, plus the falco has 40% more payload. One can't say it's not much of a difference, that's quite a lot of difference.