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What can Pakistan Possibly offer Turkish Aerospace ?
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Help Reduce Workload (More people)What can Pakistan Possibly offer Turkish Aerospace ?
Yes, however a single engine variant would make sense for Pakistan as J-31 is dual (which Pakistan will probably get).
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Money(not much.....we have some if we can spend 5 billion on subs THAT too for the Navy)
Manufacturing(I think it would be cheap to produce in Pakistan)
Help Reduce Workload (More people)
Money(not much.....we have some if we can spend 5 billion on subs THAT too for the Navy)
Manufacturing(I think it would be cheap to produce in Pakistan)
Turkish aircraft will take time. Right now UK is main component supplier. But, after political turmoil, everything in jeopardized. Last time, Turkey was looking at Ukraine for engine and other parts.Good finally Pakistan dumped Chinese mal
Jf 17 will nə developed into stealth in block 4
Not true, This is an independent Turkish program, NATO has nothing to do with this project. Turkey is PAYING the UK for assistance. This Program is already US free(Though US weapons are compatible). As said Turkey can choose non NATO suppliers.
I hate to say but funding isn't that great an issue as far as the Turkish side is concerned. IMHO, they're fully aware of the financial aspects in this partnership. As the war against FETO is being won, the final bottlenecks are being put down one by one....Indeed the professionals are aware of luxury and its expense hence a plan made while keeping in view the pocket as I said earlier. It is like starting to walk and next is running. If TFX interests Pakistan then I am sure, TAI and PAC/PAF are aware of our capability, potentials and share in this program though no one would be bluffing from PAC about that. Things are considered after a feasibility and reality check that too involves the economy.
No doubt that current shape of PAF's budget is not in favour to induct a new platform on urgent basis but here we are talking about future induction, amount paid in different dates that we are not going to pay billions in a single go that too proves that currently, we are not in position to buy Hi-end stuff off the shelf to show-case. Planning is based upon long run while keeping in view the growing economy as well. Our experience from K-8 till JFT, participation in such program based upon expertise and knowledge gained from current fleet would help a lot in such program that Turkey offered that is not unnecessarily or unknowingly.
Yet, we haven't joined the program but still I would say, if it is the case, that is going to be beneficial with lot of things for us. Aviation City/PAC is yet not committed/announced to build a total indigenous A/C of that category or it is not like that we are going to produce the A/C totally by us but could participate to the extent whereby, in future In'Sha'ALLAH we could be where many giants are today so no harm to start with little or as much as available. The JV of JFT was also started in the days when odds were not in favour or worse than today's shape but we succeeded and gained a lot while set a base for future participation.
Turkey did not start the TFX program uselessly or without having idea of platform though they have enough of experience for a starter and still leading in many areas than others. TFX is not going to roll-out by overnight so there is still plenty of time to advance the learning and in-cooperate much needed which will be done by the passage of time.
The indications came in earlier from the Turkish media (citing Turkish officials), so the MODP's statement was more of just a first verifiable statement to the effect.not necessarily!
people need to undersat d that concept of PAF buying single engines only. it is not that we cannot operate twin engines.
Also i would take what the minister have to say with a pinch of salt. he is a politician and survives by lieing! However there are other indications as well that paf may look for a JV with Turkey for fifth gen plane other than the Chinese option. If so, it will be great indeed
Thats because across the border, 2 5th gen fighters will enter service in huge *** numbers. Some FGFA's and AMCA's, Even for the PLAAF, the J-31 will only play in part. They are also getting the J-20.Why would Pakistan want to buy another platform if J-31 already inducted. Only one 5th gen platform makes sense and there is no single or double engine rule.
Our lower and mid tier fleet requirements will likely be met as our Turkish friends are working on a F-16V style upgrade package independent of US components so it is likely the F-16s will get a life refresh in future. Thunders will be following Grippen NG style evolution in Block 3,4 and beyond. So PAF planning seems good.
Thats because across the border, 2 5th gen fighters will enter service in huge *** numbers. Some FGFA's and AMCA's, Even for the PLAAF, the J-31 will only play in part. They are also getting the J-20.
Export? To who? Of course it will enter service with China.The J-31 is not meant for the PLAAF or PLAN. They have other jets that are coming up. J-31 is for export only.
Single engine fighters aren't necessarily LA's.Turkey can choose non-NATO suppliers, but not for the engine. At best components, that too from more reliable countries like Israel and South Africa.
There is no way NATO will ever allow a major NATO member to be held hostage by an adversary. Switching to a Russian or Chinese engine would automatically mean half the Turkish fleet will become useless during wartime.
And Pakistan is not in a position to ensure the Turks design a brand new jet with a single engine specifically for Pak when they themselves have chosen a twin engine design. The Koreans did the same because they realized a single engine jet will be less capable and possibly more expensive to develop.
If you want a single engine stealth jet, then it will have to be a light aircraft. The TFX is not.
Export? To who? Of course it will enter service with China.
Single engine fighters aren't necessarily LA's.