Pakistan to build radar for JF-17 'Thunder' fighter

[azfar]

^what an ironic suggestion, no one even think about it earlier.

 

[PakShaheen79]

Because It's not a big news.With Chinese assistance Pakistan started a a local assembly unit of KLJ-7 radar at home. KLJ-7 is derived from Zhuk family in which unfortunately India got deep knowledge in it. whats so special in it.Please read the janes carefully.

Pakistan to build radar for JF-17 'Thunder' fighter

So finally Pakistan ended up with Chinese radars and finally concluded the long story of AESA from Selex..All the best guys.

Hmmm... now think real hard about this. JF-17 after first batch of 50 would be using AESA or a better PD radar. This is known fact and declared future plans. Why on earth, Pakistan will set up a production line for radar which is going to be used on just 50 odd copies of Thunders?

it is PAF mate, don't speculate unless u have official version available. And FYI, it is not only radar, Pakistan would be manufacturing locally built avionics systems for Thunder as well.

 

[kafumanpk]

^what an ironic suggestion, no one even think about it earlier.

What is wrong with this proposal? I see a lot of PS pictures is like the F35. This is everyone's hope that the future development of this fighter.

 

[mughaljee]

Thanks to All Mighty Allah,
we achieve this.

 

[Pak_Sher]

This is a great leap for Pakistan's aviation industry and another step closer to self reliance. Though there will improved versions of the radar in the future, but the current model is a great start. Good work by PAF.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Congrats Pakistan. But now starts the real challenge of expanding and modernizing the PAC.

 

[Ababeel]

Few Pakistani universities are now going for RADAR research. You can follow the details below:
Control and Signal Processing Research Group---
Vision to setup a dynamic research group, a bridge between academia and industry, acting as a catalyst in hi-tech industrial growth in the third world. It will be strived to make the group membership accessible to all, especially the down trodden classes of the society.
Introduction
CASPR (Controls and Signal Processing Research) Group at M A Jinnah University is a Research Group at Department of Electronic Engineering at M A Jinnah University. Around twenty PhD students are working on the state of the art projects on Radar Systems, Automotive Control, Robotics, Fuel Cell Control and Aircraft Control.
The main aim of the group is the development of high tech human resource in the area of Electrical Engineering for the third world. The developed HR will act as nuclei agents for the growth in hi-tech engineering areas.
Controls and Signal Processing Research Group is a trend-setting research group in Pakistan’s engineering research horizon. The group started in 2001 in CASE Islamabad. The group includes five faculty members. One postdoctoral researcher is also working with the group. There are thirty full time/part time researchers in the group. There are nineteen PhD students and four Masters students. Major accomplishments of the group are elaborated later. In addition to the work on Higher Order Sliding Mode and its applications the PhD students are working on projects pertaining to Automotives control and fault diagnostics, Robotics, Radars and Aircraft Control and Guidance.
Technical Areas covered
Control applications
Aircrafts
An MSc thesis was completed on the topic of robust controller design for a benchmark aircraft. Currently two undergraduate groups are working on making an RPV autonomous. One PhD student is working on UAV guidance algorithms. An MSc student has devised successful decoupling controllers for a twin rotor platform resulting in three conference publications so far.

Automotives
The main emphasis is on making early warning systems based on OBDII measurements. The work has been published in IEEE Trans on Industrial Electronics. The group purchased an engine. The engine is being used to formulate engine speed control strategies. Actively work is being done on the development of novel misfire detection strategies. Two PhD students are working in this area.

Robotics
A PhD student is working on the development of robust control strategies for stabilized platforms. He has successfully tested H-infinity and LMI controllers on the platform in the actual field trials. A group of undergraduate students is working on forward and reverse kinematics of a robotic arm. Another group is devising parking strategies for wheeled robots.
Fuel Cells
Two PhD students are working on fuel cell control and fault diagnostics to make cheaper fuel cells for domestic energy consumption.
Theoretical development in Sliding Mode Control
We are actively pursuing HOSM based design algorithms. Novel HOSM based observers have been designed and implemented for automotives and research reactors.

Radar System Level Design and development
The group has actively taken part in the system level design of Ground Surveillance Radar developed at NUST. The group has already designed and in the process of developing:
• A low range Phased Array Radar
• An LPI FMCW Radar
• An open architecture based surveillance radar
Development of Radar Signal Processors
The group has developed radar signal processors for:
• Siemens MPDR45E Radar
• Ground Surveillance Radar
Development of Radar Simulator
A full fledge radar design tool and simulator is being developed. One PhD student is working on this project.
Group structure and strengths
• The group has four full time faculty members and one adjunct faculty member.
• 20 PhD students member
• 04 MSc students
• Students from CASE and Jinnah
Achievements
1) The following research proposal are accepted or pursued in the current academic year:
a. LPI Radar design proposal accepted by a local industry. The proposal amounts to Rs One Million and funds one PhD student.
b. Electronically Scanned Phase Array Proposal accepted by a government industry. The project will last 18 months and costs PRs 12.6 Millions. The project funds three PhD students.
c. FMCW Radar design proposal submitted to a radar related government organization. The proposal amounts to Rs 2.4 Million.d. Joint Research Proposal on “Low Cost Fuel Cell based Power Supply Control and Fault Diagnostics” with Leicester University UK is prepared for Delphi Round 4 and submitted.
e. Joint Research Proposal on “Low Cost Fuel Cell based UPS” with Leicester University UK is prepared for INSPIRE and submitted.
f. A proposal on the development of a low cost device for automotive fault diagnostics submitted to ICT R&D Fund, two internal reviews have taken place.
g. A proposal on ‘MRE Algorithms Development for the detection of state of Liver Tumor’ is prepared and submitted.

 

[PakShaheen79]

Congrats Pakistan. But now starts the real challenge of expanding and modernizing the PAC.

yeah and this kind of challenges came with a modernization drive in every military project. It is universal thing and I know guys at PAC are the best to meet this challenge head-on.

 

[SSGPA1]

Another step in the right direction. Americans invented elctronice microscope while working on space crafts. Insha-Allah, this radar will open many doors for Pakistan.

 

[farhan_9909]

Hmmm... now think real hard about this. JF-17 after first batch of 50 would be using AESA or a better PD radar. This is known fact and declared future plans. Why on earth, Pakistan will set up a production line for radar which is going to be used on just 50 odd copies of Thunders?

it is PAF mate, don't speculate unless u have official version available. And FYI, it is not only radar, Pakistan would be manufacturing locally built avionics systems for Thunder as well.

you have a good point..

why would we start locally Klj-7 manufacturing only remaining 20 aircrafts?

2 reason

the same radar will be used after the first 50.

or the radar to be made is better then KLj-7.because KLJ 7 range is nt good for A2A role

 

[malikkhawar]

good news.....work more on JF 17.
JFT is the future of PAF

 

[wakapdf]

indeed jf17 is the future of PAF

 

[blackcobran]

If it was only the license production of klj-7 then what was the need to built new facility as we already have that facility where we are licence producing Grifo-series used on mirages and f-7's.as mirages and f-7's will be replaced by jf-17 so why wouldnot they have switched to klj-7 production instead of setting up a new facility?
May be plans for new local radar,and the research and other work will be carried out in new facility being set-up

Totally agree with U MANI..........

 

[acetophenol]

thats a good news!
Thumps up! Gud luck!
Attaining self sufficiency is a gud thing.our prayers are with you! Go ahead. Be god with you!
Ps:how to start a new thread?

 

[AerospaceEngineer]

Pakistan to build radar for JF-17 'Thunder' fighter

The chief of staff of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has told that Pakistan has built its first facility to manufacture radars for fighter aircraft.

Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman said the indigenously produced radar, built with China's assistance at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC), in Kamra, north of Islamabad, would equip the JF-17 'Thunder' fighter aircraft jointly produced by the two countries.

"This is a major step forward. This will be the first such [radar manufacturing] facility in Pakistan," ACM Suleman said in an interview on 21 December at PAF headquarters in Islamabad. He confirmed that the radar would be fitted on the JF-17, which, along with US-supplied F-16 Fighting Falcons, is set to be the PAF's front-line combat aircraft.

Previous reports suggest that the radar to be manufactured will be the Chinese-built CETC/NRIET KLJ-7 radar set. At the 2010 Farnborough Air Show, at which two JF-17s made their debut in the West, reported that the KLJ-7 had received full marks from the JF-17's designers at PAC.

A PAC programme officer told : "I have flown with this radar and with other models that we have looked at fitting to this aircraft, such as the Thales RC400, and the Chinese radar is every bit as capable as its contemporary analogs."
Pakistan to build radar for JF-17 'Thunder' fighter

Pakistan is playing wise. They say that they are looking at European products such as the RC400, so to force the Chinese offer better bid. They got it with KJ-7 which itself is a smaller KJ-10 on board J-10A.

Good move for Pakistan. In thed future JF-17 might ended up with
J-10B's scale down AESA radar.