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Tuesday, 09 September 2008

Bill Kristol, a Fox Television commentator and arch American neoconservative revealed recently what many had long suspected was US thinking about the current international situation.
Kristol recounts that in a 90-minute, mostly off-the-record meeting with a small group of journalists in early July, President Bush "conveyed the following impression, that he thought the next president's biggest challenge would not be Iraq, which he thinks he'll leave in pretty good shape, and would not be Afghanistan, which is manageable by itself… It's Pakistan." We have "a sort of friendly government that sort of cooperates and sort of doesn't. It's really a complicated and difficult situation." Right on cue, presidential candidate Barack Obama took the baton from Bush in his speech on July 15, in which he argued that more focus and resource were required on both Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The Kristol revelation on the surface is staggering yet not a surprise to those who have long suspected that the US presence in Afghanistan constitutes a Trojan horse for a more insidious plan the US has for Pakistan. Some may find it surprising that the US now believes Pakistan to be more challenging than Iraq where the US has 150,000 troops, spent almost a trillion dollars and has incurred over 4,000 fatalities. The neocon vision was that the capture of Iraq, a state that lies at the heart of the Middle East, would allow it to control not just the resources of the region but more importantly its geopolitics. Of course, the post invasion challenge was severely underestimated and despite some reduction in violence (albeit from a high benchmark), Iraq remains a quagmire. The US would like Iraq to be 'stable' but not too stable, 'independent' but not too independent, have an 'effective' military but not too effective. John McCain compares the US role in Iraq with that of Korea and Germany and believes the US could be there for a hundred years. To justify a continued presence the US needs to keep Iraq weak and divided. No one can seriously dispute the growth in sectarianism that has been seen since US occupation. With a self governed Kurdish north, a Shia dominated central government and now US support for the Sunni tribes, General Petraeus has presided over a de facto partitioned state.

So, with Iraq closer to de facto partition, America can now turn its attention to Pakistan. This change of focus has been sign posted now for at least twelve months. In June 2007 the US published its National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) with some startling new revelations. Despite citing its numerous successes against Al-Qa'idah since September 2001 including these statements in a declassified document titled "Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States" dated April 2006 stated the following "United States - led counterterrorism efforts have seriously damaged the leadership of Al-Qa'idah and disrupted its operations… We assess the global jihadist movement is decentralised, lacks a coherent global strategy, and is becoming more diffuse."

Yet the collective US intelligence community made a volte-face fourteen months later when it said the following: "We assess the group (Al-Qa'idah) has protected or regenerated key elements of its Homeland attack capability, including: a safe haven in the Pakistan Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), operational lieutenants, and its top leadership."

So, in effect what the US intelligence community was saying was that its six year war against Al-Qa'idah had been a failure and that to win the war effectively required action within Pakistan. The pretext for war within Pakistan was therefore created; any attack on any US target from now on that was traced to the FATA would give the US casus belli to undergo a massive retaliatory attack within Pakistan. Indeed Frances Townsend Homeland Security adviser to Bush said shortly after the NIE was published that the United States would be willing to send troops into Pakistan to root out Al-Qa'idah, noting specifically that "no option is off the table if that is what is required"

The US has been itching to get into Pakistan for some time, first using remote controlled Predator aircraft to attack targets within Pakistan almost on a daily basis. Secondly the US has spent $10 billion on Pakistan's military since 2001 and more specifically in trying to make Pakistan's Frontier Corps into a fighting unit for the US military. To ensure Washington gets better value for money, Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee Senator Joe Biden is seeking to enact legislation in Congress to tie future security aid to performance. Thirdly by promoting General Petraeus from heading up the Iraq campaign to become Central Command (Centcom's) new head, clearly indicates that Iraq has become subservient to Pakistan in Washington's thinking. Fourthly the continued barrage of criticism within Capitol Hill, by Afghan officials and western think tanks of Pakistan's failure to stem cross border insurgency prepares the ground for an eventual attack in Pakistan. Indeed eliminating the Pakistan sanctuary bases is one of the RAND Corporation's key recommendations in a recent report entitled "Counterinsurgency in Afghanistan." (funded by the US DOD). The report does not confine criticism to the FATA but states that the insurgency also finds refuge in the North Western Frontier Province (NWFP) as well as the province of Balochistan so extending the area substantially for future retaliation. Lastly according to a New York Times report in June, top Bush administration officials drafted a secret plan in 2007 to make it easier for US Special Operations forces to operate inside Pakistan's tribal areas but that turf battles and the diversion of resources to Iraq held up the effort. However now that forces are being reduced in Iraq, it is inevitable that such programs will be stepped up.

The US has been itching to get into Pakistan for some time.

Firstly, using remote controlled Predator aircraft to attack targets within Pakistan almost on a daily basis.

Secondly, the US has spent $10 billion on Pakistan's military since 2001 and more specifically in trying to make Pakistan's Frontier Corps into a fighting unit for the US military. To ensure Washington gets better value for money, Senator Joe Biden, Chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, is seeking to enact legislation in Congress to tie future security aid to performance.

Thirdly, by promoting General Petraeus from heading up the Iraq campaign to become Central Command (CENTCOM's) new head clearly indicates that Iraq has become subservient to Pakistan in Washington's thinking.

Fourthly, the continued barrage of criticism within Capitol Hill, by Afghan officials and western think tanks of Pakistan's failure to stem cross border insurgency prepares the ground for an eventual attack in Pakistan. Indeed eliminating the Pakistan sanctuary bases is one of the RAND Corporation's key recommendations in a recent report, funded by the IS DOD, entitled "Counterinsurgency in Afghanistan." The report does not confine criticism to the FATA but states that the insurgency also finds refuge in the North Western Frontier Province (NWFP) as well as the province of Balochistan so extending the area substantially for future retaliation.

Lastly, according to a New York Times report in June, top Bush administration officials drafted a secret plan in 2007 to make it easier for US Special Operations forces to operate inside Pakistan's tribal areas but that turf battles and the diversion of resources to Iraq held up the effort. However, now that forces are being reduced in Iraq, it is inevitable that such programs will be stepped up.

So, why is Pakistan so important?

Mitchell Shivers Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defence for Asian & Pacific Security Affairs gave the following reasons in his testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on 25 June 2008:

Firstly, Pakistan is the second most populous Muslim state, the sixth most populous country in the world, and is located at the geopolitical crossroads of South and Central Asia.

Second, Pakistan possesses nuclear weapons and has already fought three conventional wars with another nuclear nation next door, India.

Third Pakistan has a large, growing moderate middle class striving for democracy.

Fourth, elements of extremism and terrorism are at work within Pakistan.

Fifth, the whole-hearted assistance of the Pakistani people and their government will help the United States achieve its national security objectives in Afghanistan.

Sixth, and most importantly, militants and terrorists within the border region of Pakistan constitute a direct threat to the United States homeland.

Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in an article in the Washington Post in March defined US objectives in Pakistan as "control of nuclear weapons, counter-terrorism cooperation and resistance to Islamic radicalism" and believes Pakistan could turn "into the wildcard of international diplomacy." This was echoed by Turkey's military chief General Yaşar Büyükanıt who speaking in March at an international conference in Ankara warned that Pakistan's political troubles could open the way for the Taliban to seize the country and its nuclear weapons.

The US fears Pakistan, as it contains the key mix of Islam, nuclear weapons and people who are impatient for change and who do not trust the Americans. Consistent surveys indicates that the US's approval ratings are less than 20% in Pakistan and that the people of Pakistan desire for Islamic rule does not equate to a desire for violent extremism. The desire for Islamic governance allied with the above ingredients clearly illustrate why Pakistan has risen to the top of Washington's radar screen and why Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen has now made four visits to Pakistan since February.

What about the war in Afghanistan, how does this fit into the plan for Pakistan?

Of course, Afghanistan has some value to the US but the campaign as Kristol admits will be allowed to continue on the back burner. The US objective for Afghanistan was never to defeat the Taliban or to extend its remit over the whole country. Indeed if it was the objective, the US would have sent more troops. The Soviet Union in comparison had 300,000 troops in the 1980's and while occupying the cities, could never pacify the countryside. The US and NATO presence at about 65,000 is almost laughable when facing a population of 31 million. The US campaign in Afghanistan is more a forward base combining Special Forces and CIA operatives backed up with airpower and a modest number of US ground forces. The mission in 2001 was to coordinate the fight with allies within the Northern Alliance and amongst other minorities and disgruntled anti-Taliban elements. Geo-strategically, Afghanistan has limited value for the US, other than to ensure no one else should control it. This explains why the priority given to Afghanistan will always be less than Iraq and certainly lower than Pakistan. It also explains why Afghanistan is in the shambles it is.

According to the Afghanistan Human Development Report 2007, Afghanistan remains far behind neighbouring countries with a rank of 174 out of 178 on the global HDI (a composite indicator that measures education, longevity, and economic performance). 6.6 million Afghans do not meet their minimum food requirements. 2006 witnessed a significant rise in attacks and a 59% spike in the area under poppy cultivation, making the country a world leader in the production of illegal opium (90% of global production). Low literacy and a lack of access to safe drinking water, food, and sanitation contribute to the still relatively high child mortality rate. With the maternal mortality ratio estimated at 1600 deaths per 100,000 live births, Afghanistan maintains one of the highest maternal mortality rates in the world.

How should Muslims in the region respond? They need to do at least three things:


A. Pakistan should realise what the US is trying to do. It doesn't require an international relations genius to conclude that the US is seeking to do to Pakistan what it has done to Iraq, namely decimating its military capability and fracturing the country into separate entities. The army who effectively control Pakistan are not stupid; they understand the political dynamic at place. Four Star General Tariq Majeed, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee recently said at an international conference in Singapore that cross-border missile strikes into Pakistan's tribal belt are killing civilians and contributing to the popular perception that U.S. military operations in the region are "anti-Islam." They understand that when the US talks about reforming the Frontier Corps, this is about ensuring that they fight more effectively for the US, not Pakistan. They also understand that while the US has a tactical relationship with Pakistan, it seeks a strategic relationship with India even to the extent of offering it unprecedented civil nuclear assistance. The $10 billion that the US has given Pakistan since 2001 means nothing, if Pakistan eventually fragments into multiple pieces. With NWFP, Balochistan and Karachi all teetering at the edge, the US has a once in a generation opportunity to turn Pakistan into a balkanised hell hole.

B. The only supply lines into Afghanistan for the US are either through the mountains of Central Asia or through the port of Karachi. Without Pakistan, logistics, the flow of supplies, fuel and other military hardware would soon stop the campaign in Afghanistan. There is no strategic interest for Pakistan to continue to support America's war in Afghanistan.
Firstly, it allows 65,000 NATO and US troops to permanently occupy a Muslim country creating an anti Pakistani government in Kabul.

Secondly instead of having a secure western border, Pakistan has to have 100,000 troops permanently supporting the US effort thus taking valuable resources from it's more vulnerable eastern border with India.

Thirdly, Pakistan has to face the blowback, of fighting not just its own citizens in NWFP and FATA, but fellow Muslims across the border.

Lastly, the people of Pakistan and Afghanistan have to realise that neither brutal dictatorship nor secular democracy can succeed in the Muslim world. As has been witnessed since February, Pakistan's political class have no solutions with respect to high fuel costs, high food prices and the deterioration in the financial environment. The Afghan President has also presided over a country where after nearly 7 years, hunger, corruption, electricity shortages and killing civilians are the watchwords of today's Afghanistan.
Only the tried and trusted Islamic system of the Khilafah (Caliphate) can succeed in the Muslim world. A coherent effort at re-establishing the Khilafah is now the urgent requirement and is gaining momentum. According to an opinion poll carried out by the University of Maryland, 74% of Pakistanis support the establishment of a unified Khilafah in the Muslim world, the establishment of such an entity is therefore not a question of if, but when.

Indeed the major problems in Afghanistan and Pakistan are not one of economic resources but of political will. Afghanistan and Pakistan are not 'failing states.' Unfortunately, for the people of Afghanistan they've been invaded twice by external powers in the last 25 years and this remains the hub of their problem. For the Pakistani people they have seen over 60 years of political failure with so called "independence" a mere charade.

Yet the world is entering a new paradigm in international relations. No longer will the Fed in Washington be calling the shots. No longer will the Dollar reign supreme. No longer is the US military invincible. What started with self evident truths in Philadelphia over two centuries ago has now morphed into implosion on Wall Street and an economic tsunami across the globe.

Many cite the Khilafah as a utopian dream, yet those in the know are not so sure. A US government intelligence study by the National Intelligence Council in 2004 called "Mapping the Global Future" presented as one future scenario the rise of a new pan-national Caliphate. Thomas Ricks the Washington Post's senior Pentagon correspondent in his book "Fiasco" says there is precedent for the emergence of a unifying figure in the Muslim world a modern day Saladin someone who can revive the region through combining popular support with huge oil revenues. A real "nightmare scenario" for the western world as Richard Nixon once described it in his book 1999.

So Muslims face a strategic choice either support the US led coalition or politically unify under the banner of Islam. Whereas the former guarantees national oblivion and further balkanisation, the latter should allow the Muslim world to flourish and meet head on the challenges of the 21st century.
 
Jane's Defence Weekly

Gen Kiyani criticises US forces for 'reckless actions'

Trefor Moss JDW Asia-Pacific Editor - London

General Ashfaq Kiyani, Pakistan's military chief, has criticised the "reckless actions" of US forces based in Afghanistan, continuing the row over an alleged incursion into South Waziristan by US forces in early September.

Gen Kiyani, speaking through the military's Inter Services Public Relations agency on 10 September, warned the United States that "the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the country will be defended at all costs", threatening military resistance to any further US incursions. "No external force is allowed to conduct operations inside Pakistan," he added.

US forces had attacked the border village of Angoor Adda using helicopters and ground forces on 3 September, Pakistan's foreign ministry has claimed, killing Pakistani civilians as well as Taliban targets. US defence officials have not commented on the raid.

Gen Kiyani's statement also came amid widespread reports that US President George W Bush issued an order in July authorising special operations inside Pakistani territory in a bid to kill or capture top Al-Qaeda targets Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri before he leaves office.

The US Department of Defense was yet to respond to Jane's confirming or denying the existence of such an order at the time of going to press.

The reaction of Gen Kiyani to the operation in South Waziristan confirmed that any order from President Bush authorising missions inside Pakistan had come without his knowledge. "There is no question of any agreement or understanding with the coalition forces," he said, "whereby they are allowed to conduct operations on our side of the border."

This also countered speculation that strikes by US unmanned aerial vehicles had been carried out inside Pakistan with the government's tacit approval.

Gen Kiyani's comments further dampened hopes that the US and Pakistan had reached an understanding about cross-border operations in a meeting of top military commanders held on USS Abraham Lincoln on 27 August, which was aimed at improving co-operation between the US and Pakistani armed forces, especially in the border region.

The Angoor Adda incident prompted NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) to release a statement of its own on 4 September to stress that "ISAF only operates in Afghanistan" and that "ISAF forces do not operate in Pakistan". ISAF troops only return fire across the border if fired upon, the statement added. In claiming to have no knowledge of missions conducted inside Pakistan, ISAF was clearly hoping to distance itself from cross-border infringements carried out by US forces serving as part of Operation 'Enduring Freedom', although such distinctions between ISAF and non-ISAF forces are unlikely to be appreciated by local people in the border areas.

Gen Kiyani argued that attacks on Pakistani soil by foreign troops would "only help the militants and further fuel militancy in the area".

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Gen Kiyani criticises US forces for 'reckless actions'

Trefor Moss JDW Asia-Pacific Editor - London

General Ashfaq Kiyani, Pakistan's military chief, has criticised the "reckless actions" of US forces based in Afghanistan, continuing the row over an alleged incursion into South Waziristan by US forces in early September.

Gen Kiyani, speaking through the military's Inter Services Public Relations agency on 10 September, warned the United States that "the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the country will be defended at all costs", threatening military resistance to any further US incursions. "No external force is allowed to conduct operations inside Pakistan," he added.

US forces had attacked the border village of Angoor Adda using helicopters and ground forces on 3 September, Pakistan's foreign ministry has claimed, killing Pakistani civilians as well as Taliban targets. US defence officials have not commented on the raid.

Gen Kiyani's statement also came amid widespread reports that US President George W Bush issued an order in July authorising special operations inside Pakistani territory in a bid to kill or capture top Al-Qaeda targets Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri before he leaves office.

The US Department of Defense was yet to respond to Jane's confirming or denying the existence of such an order at the time of going to press.

The reaction of Gen Kiyani to the operation in South Waziristan confirmed that any order from President Bush authorising missions inside Pakistan had come without his knowledge. "There is no question of any agreement or understanding with the coalition forces," he said, "whereby they are allowed to conduct operations on our side of the border."

This also countered speculation that strikes by US unmanned aerial vehicles had been carried out inside Pakistan with the government's tacit approval.

Gen Kiyani's comments further dampened hopes that the US and Pakistan had reached an understanding about cross-border operations in a meeting of top military commanders held on USS Abraham Lincoln on 27 August, which was aimed at improving co-operation between the US and Pakistani armed forces, especially in the border region.

The Angoor Adda incident prompted NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) to release a statement of its own on 4 September to stress that "ISAF only operates in Afghanistan" and that "ISAF forces do not operate in Pakistan". ISAF troops only return fire across the border if fired upon, the statement added. In claiming to have no knowledge of missions conducted inside Pakistan, ISAF was clearly hoping to distance itself from cross-border infringements carried out by US forces serving as part of Operation 'Enduring Freedom', although such distinctions between ISAF and non-ISAF forces are unlikely to be appreciated by local people in the border areas.

Gen Kiyani argued that attacks on Pakistani soil by foreign troops would "only help the militants and further fuel militancy in the area".

© 2008 Jane's Information Group

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The Great Satan is not going to listen to the arguments of General Kiyani or anyone opposing the indiscriminate killing of the Pakistani civilians by the so-called champions of human rights. This is just a waste of precious time that Pakistanis do not have. The government should immediately mobilise the entire nation against further aggressions and at the same time consider breaking ties with the Great Satan if this kind of illegal attacks go on. The Pakistani government should prepare the nation for the worst case scenario and unite it under the banner of Islam. If this happens the Great Satan will be forced to back down.
 
The Great Satan is not going to listen to the arguments of General Kiyani or anyone opposing the indiscriminate killing of the Pakistani civilians by the so-called champions of human rights. This is just a waste of precious time that Pakistanis do not have. The government should immediately mobilise the entire nation against further aggressions and at the same time consider breaking ties with the Great Satan if this kind of illegal attacks go on. The Pakistani government should prepare the nation for the worst case scenario and unite it under the banner of Islam. If this happens the Great Satan will be forced to back down.

Do not blame every thing to US, its Pakistani military killing more people inside Pakistan. Greatest Satans are sitting inside Pakistan who are inviting outside Satans. Clean Satans in your country who are making young people terrorists, every thing will be fine.
 
Bomb Is Said to Kill Afghan Governor
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: September 13, 2008
Filed at 3:06 a.m. ET




PAGHMAN, Afghanistan (AP) -- A remote control bomb that witnesses said was set off by two unknown men on a nearby hilltop ripped through an Afghan provincial governor's vehicle on Saturday, killing the governor and three others, officials said.

The blast killed Abdullah Wardak, the governor of Logar province, two of his bodyguards and a driver, said Gen. Zalmay Khan, a police commander in Kabul province.

The explosion occurred only about 500 yards from the governor's home. He had been traveling in the second car of a three-car convoy that was headed for parliament. The bomb detonated directly on the governor's vehicle, shredding the front half of the SUV and flipping the remains upside down.

Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid claimed responsibility for the attack.

A resident in Paghman, the area where the attack occurred about 12 miles west of Kabul, said he saw two men on the side of a hill near the road where the explosion detonated. Mohammad Shoaib said that after the bomb went off, the two men ran away. Authorities found wires on top of the hill, he said.

Wardak, a former Cabinet member, was in charge of Logar, the province directly south of Kabul. Afghanistan has 34 provinces, each headed by a provincial governor.

Militants frequently target government leaders in their campaign of violence against Afghan authorities.

Meanwhile, NATO's International Security Assistance Force said one of its soldiers was killed Friday when insurgents fired on a patrol. No other details were released.

More than 4,100 people have died in insurgency related violence this year, according to an Associated Press count based on figures from Afghan and Western officials.



U.S. Reported to Kill 12 in Pakistan

By PIR ZUBAIR SHAH and SALMAN MASOOD
Published: September 12, 2008

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The intensified American campaign against militants suspected of having ties to Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Pakistan’s tribal areas continued Friday. Two missiles fired from remotely piloted American aircraft killed 12 people in an attack on a compound in North Waziristan, according to a local journalist and television reports.
The missiles were reportedly fired just before dawn at Tole Khel, a village near Miram Shah, the capital of North Waziristan. The attack struck the home of a local tribesman, Yousaf Khan Wazir, who was among the dead, a local journalist said, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
The compound was believed to be a training camp for militants, a Pakistani intelligence official said, and most of the dead were “Punjabi Taliban,” a term for militants from Punjab Province. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly.
Another Pakistani security official said that those killed belonged to Al Badar, a group that had long operated against the Indian government in Indian-controlled Kashmir. Some members had come to Waziristan to fight in Afghanistan, he said.
The dead included women and children, according to residents who spoke to Pakistani reporters. There was no immediate word on the reported attack from American or Pakistani military authorities.

Pakistani helicopter gunships hovered over the area after the missile attack, and a Pakistani convoy was hit by a roadside bomb that wounded three soldiers, state television reported.

On Monday a strike by a Predator remotely piloted aircraft hit the North Waziristan compound of one of Pakistan’s most prominent Taliban leaders, killing more than 20 people, intelligence officials said.

The flurry of American strikes in the tribal areas has caused grave concern in Pakistan. Its military chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, reiterated Friday that Pakistan would safeguard its territorial integrity. After meeting with corps commanders at army headquarters in Rawalpindi, General Kayani also said that the army and Pakistan’s new democratic government were united in their views.
The New York Times reported this week that in July, according to senior American officials, President Bush secretly authorized American Special Operations forces to carry out ground assaults inside Pakistan without the prior approval of the Pakistani government. That disclosure prompted an immediate rebuke from General Kayani.
The focus of his anger was a Sept. 3 raid by American forces on a Pakistani village near the Afghan border. Pakistani officials said that attack had achieved little except killing civilians and stoking anti-Americanism in the tribal areas. According to the Americans, Pakistan has permitted the tribal areas to become safe havens for Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

American officials said later that more than two dozen commandos in the Navy Seals had spent several hours on the ground, supported by an AC-130 gunship, and had killed two dozen suspected Qaeda fighters before being whisked away by helicopter.

Pakistani commentators say that such incursions will simply further inflame anti-American sentiment. Former President Pervez Musharraf was scorned for his unflinching support of the United States in the effort to combat terrorism.

In an editorial titled “Enough, Uncle Sam,” The News, a leading daily newspaper, warned Friday of “unseen consequences” if the United States continued the strikes inside Pakistan. It said the attacks would become “the best recruiting sergeant that the extremists ever had — and the extremists will be quietly delighted at the civilian deaths as they know that more feet will turn to the path that leads to their door.”

President Asif Ali Zardari, in office less than a week, is already under scrutiny because of concerns that he may be too obliging to the Americans.

“Zardari should be getting all concerned on board and calibrating a Pakistani response to this American pressure,” Ayaz Amir, a political analyst and member of Parliament, wrote in a separate column in The News. “He needs to be seen as his own man and a guardian of Pakistani interests.” The early impression, however, “is of being an American apologist,” Mr. Amir wrote.

In other fighting on Friday, 32 militants and 2 soldiers died in combat between Pakistan security forces and militants elsewhere in the wild lands bordering Afghanistan, The Associated Press reported, citing an Army spokesman, Maj. Murad Khan.

Ismail Khan contributed reporting from Peshawar, Pakistan, and Alan Cowell from Paris.

A perfect reason, in the form of the assination of the one of afghan governer , GEN. KIYANI talking to much but, cant have the cure, more attacks to follow.:agree:
Pakistani PM , wants to solve all by diplomacy.(dawn.tv.com).:tsk::disagree:
Diplomacy ????:hitwall::lol:
 
Do not blame every thing to US, its Pakistani military killing more people inside Pakistan. Greatest Satans are sitting inside Pakistan who are inviting outside Satans. Clean Satans in your country who are making young people terrorists, every thing will be fine.

Ask coward Indians to stop supplying funds to terrorists of Baitullah Meshud, ask them to stop provide psychological medicines to terrorist being used to give and hypnotise the suicide bombers in FATA.

I wish the Jewish/Hindu Zionism could come to senses and stop massacar of Humanity
 
Do not blame every thing to US, its Pakistani military killing more people inside Pakistan. Greatest Satans are sitting inside Pakistan who are inviting outside Satans. Clean Satans in your country who are making young people terrorists, every thing will be fine.

CIA is the main factory of international terrorism and those who want to divert attention from that fact are also terrorists.
 
Ask coward Indians to stop supplying funds to terrorists of Baitullah Meshud, ask them to stop provide psychological medicines to terrorist being used to give and hypnotise the suicide bombers in FATA.

I wish the Jewish/Hindu Zionism could come to senses and stop massacar of Humanity
First Ask *same word you have used for the Indian in previous post* Pakistani to stop supply to terrorist of LeT, Jaish, etc....
 
jana,

Thanks you brought out the fear of Islam.

While Hinduism is not a strong religion, Christianity is.

If you have read kuran, you would be knowing that Ismail was the son of Hagar the maid servent whom Abraham kept. Muslims and Mohammed are the children of Hagar/Ismail and can never be stronger than christians.

Because Christians are children of Issac, who is the true heir of Abrahams blessings.

And for this reason christians and Isreali's will rule the world.

Look at your situation, the Islamic world still uses the weapons developed by
christians [US]. Is there any one Islamic country that can develop weapons which will match that of Christians ? NO. That is because you are children of slave [hagar]. We are the true children of God.

That is why most Islamic countries are slaves of christians [US].

Look at Pakistan, it is a slave of US. It depends on US alms for survival.
It uses US weapons, and calls it Allah's blessing...ha ha.

God will bless India because India is a friend of Christians [US/Israel].

Pakistan will be destroyed as long as it is Islamic.


:tsk::tsk::tsk: i leave your post for others to judge your even bellow the .D.irt nonsens
 
First Ask *same word you have used for the Indian in previous post* Pakistani to stop supply to terrorist of LeT, Jaish, etc....

My Dear mr,Marshal.
I would like to remind you , this is PAKISTAN DEFENCE FOURM, plz use good languge. or you can suffer great loss.:enjoy:
 
Prime Minister Gilani spent U.S. $ 1 million to meet Mr. Bush but had no stomach to protest a foreign attack inside his country that killed innocent civilians. The priorities remain limited to a party leader who was killed more than nine months ago. The Prime Minister’s microscopic vision only allows him to see the PPP flag. In a country where Party leaders are bigger than political parties and political parties are bigger than Pakistan, what more can we expect from this distorted figure of democracy?

11 June 2008: U.S. strike killed 11 Pakistan soldiers along the border with Afghanistan.


28 July 2008-Wana: At least 6 people killed in a U.S. strike inside Pakistan.


4 September 2008-Angoor Adda- Waziristan: At least 4 people killed in a U.S. strike inside Pakistan.


5 September 2008-Goorweck Baipali: At least 5 people, including three children killed due to U.S. strike inside Pakistan


8 September 2008-Wana: At least 21 people killed and 14 injured in a U.S. missile strike inside Pakistan borders. This was the third strike in less than a week.


The number of missile attacks by pilot-less Predator drones in Pakistan have more than tripled in the past year. Pakistani officials reported 11 such strikes this year, compared to three strikes in 2007 [The Washington Post, Sept. 10]


U.S. President Bush, said in his address at the U.S. National Defense University that parts of Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan were “all theatres in the same overall struggle”.


On Monday, July 28, the Prime Minster of Pakistan was on his first visit to the U.S. to show the importance of Pak-U.S. relations. Washington’s response? A strike inside Pakistan killing six. While meeting Mr. Gilani, U.S. President’s praise for Pakistan’s role in the War against Terror was nothing short of mockery.

It was an audacious attempt to show just how helpless and unimportant the Prime Minister and his visit actually were. Unfortunately, it was successful. Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani continued to follow his timetable, posing for the camera with President Bush to show how close and respectfully they were working, oblivious to the lives that were lost back home. “We talked about the need for us to make sure that the Afghan border is secure, as best as possible,” Mr. Bush said before the leaders continued their discussions. “Pakistan has made a very strong commitment to that.”

The missile strikes were not important enough to be discussed in their ‘talks’ over a cup of tea. The cost of this friendly call was an alleged U.S. $1 million, paid by Pakistan.

The White House press secretary, Dana M. Perino, admitted that the issues on the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan were “complex” but she said the differences were over rated. “It’s tense in that we are working together to try to fight counterterrorism,” she said, “but I think that we are much more on the same page than some people would like to paint”.

Looking at the performance of the latest government in Pakistan, this statement might actually hold true. While Pakistan is definitely not ‘on the same page’ with Washington, the Government of Pakistan is very well “on the same page” with the U.S.

The strikes continue, and all we get is a grin from the President, or a statement from the Prime Minister that goes like this, “This is a war which is Pakistan’s war. And we’ll fight for our own interest. And that is because I have lost my own leader, Benazir Bhutto, because of the militants.”

Nothing about the homes that will never see light again. Nothing about the sovereignty of Pakistan. The priorities remain limited to a party leader who was killed more than nine months ago.

The Prime Minister’s microscopic vision only allows him to see the PPP flag. In a country where Party leaders are bigger than political parties and political parties are bigger than Pakistan, what more can we expect from this distorted figure of democracy?

The U.S. Admiral Mike Mullen wants to attack Pakistan? When are we going to acknowledge the extent of the threat that we face? Are not our western cities as much a part of Pakistan as our central provinces, or are we waiting for a strike more near our homes before we realize what is happening?

To the Media: Play your role as a watchdog now, when we need it. Where
are the analysts, the superstar anchors? Where is the intelligentsia that is supposed to enlighten the common man?

To the President: No Mr. Zardari, please spare us your noble advice and wisdom. What we need is an honest leader who can stand up for Pakistan, not a remote controlled U.S. moppet.

To Gen. Ashfaq Kayani: We have no faith in the PPP government. Please retaliate to the threats. Save us from our own, and save us from the enemies outside. We can not compromise on our sovereignty. We stand united with you. May you protect Pakistan always.


Pakistan Paindabad.
 
Musharaf Bad, boo, hiss, boo --- OK now you got what you wanted, but this is the reaction of the "democratic" government - where are all PPP types hiding

Pakistan can’t wage war with US: PM

Saturday, September 13, 2008
Says US attacks can be taken up at diplomatic level

By Asim Yasin

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani on Friday pledged to raise the issue of US threats to Pakistan's territorial integrity at the international level to resolve it through diplomacy and said that right to launch an offensive against the terrorists solely rested with Pakistan as the government was capable of taking an effective action within the country.

"We can take up the matter of unilateral strikes in Pakistan at diplomatic level, but cannot wage war," he said while talking to newsmen here at Prime Minister Secretariat after inaugurating the country's first plant for manufacturing of auto disposable syringes.

He said this issue would be taken up with the United States and the United Kingdom with a view to convincing them that Pakistan would itself take any military action against the militants on its territory.

"Pakistan enjoys friendly relations with all the countries and will be able to bring Washington and London round to the fact that we are fully capable of tackling the scourge of terrorism ourselves," he added.

He was of the view that only Pakistan had the sole right to take action against the terrorist in its territory. "If any one has any information, it should be shared with us so that we may decide to take action. If there are any militants in our country, it is our right to take action against them and we can do that," he added. He said a pragmatic solution to the issue of terrorism would be worked out through dialogue.

The prime minister stressed that Pakistan was against terrorism and said, "We have suffered a lot due to this menace and even lost our leader Shaheed Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto. We want peace in the country and not terrorism. We are taking action against this menace on our own."

The prime minister while speaking about the government's strategy to deal with the issue of terrorism and extremism particularly in the tribal areas said it was a mix of dialogue, development and the use of force in accordance with the circumstances. "This is our country and we want to address these issues on our own, and we are addressing these," he stressed.

He welcomed the statements of Germany, France and Nato on the issue of action in tribal areas and said, "We will convince the United States and Britain as well to respect the sovereignty of Pakistan."

To a question about the statement of Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the prime minister said he had also raised this issue after a meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai the other day.

In reply to a question about Friday's missile attack in the tribal areas, the prime minister said, "We strongly condemn this attack". The premier said he discussed the matter with Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi and the issue will be taken up at diplomatic level
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Most probably the flow of cash dollar from Washington has already started pouring into Mr. Ten Percent's swiss account.
 
Editorial from today's DAWN - note once again, the country can go to hell as long as the Pak Fauj can be assailed - it is after all not "democractic"

Civilians must lead


WHO in Pakistan is in charge of the war against terrorism? On Wednesday, COAS Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani issued a statement condemning recent violations of Pakistan’s territorial sovereignty by US forces and missiles and vowed to defend Pakistan “at all costs”. Gen Kayani was categorical: “There is no question of any agreement or understanding with the coalition forces whereby they are allowed to conduct operations on our side of the border.” On Thursday, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani told reporters that Gen Kayani’s statement “reflected the government policy”. Is the country to infer then that the civilians are taking their cue from the military top brass? Why must the army chief enunciate government policy rather than the prime minister — or the president?

Few would have failed to note that Gen Kayani’s statement came a day after President Zardari’s first press conference in which the president was repeatedly pressed on Pakistan’s position on the war against militancy. Two things stand out from that press conference. One, President Zardari chose to make his presidential debut whilst seated next to President Karzai. This was a strange decision as the Afghan president’s harsh and long-running attacks against the Pakistan Army, and particularly the ISI, have made him radioactive in the eyes of the Pakistani establishment. Second, President Zardari refused to take the many opportunities offered during the press conference to categorically condemn US attacks in Fata, particularly the raid by US Special Operations Forces in a village in South Waziristan on Sept 3. Indeed, at one point in the press conference President Zardari renewed his call for setting up an international fund for victims of the war against terrorism. Some will interpret this to mean that his government has accepted that more raids inside Pakistan’s tribal areas were inevitable. Given the jarring difference between the tone of President Zardari on Tuesday and that of Gen Kayani on Wednesday, one is led to question Prime Minister Gilani’s statement on Thursday that there is no disconnect between the civilians and the army.

Moreover, in these dangerous times, a further twist has been added: the Americans are lashing out at Gen Kayani. The New York Times article disclosing that last July President Bush had authorised US strikes inside Pakistan also contained an extraordinary direct allegation against Gen Kayani. Speaking anonymously a “senior American official” told the NYT that it was “difficult to imagine that [Gen Kayani] was not aware” of the plot to bomb the Indian embassy in Kabul in July. Against this American onslaught, the Pakistani leadership — civilian and military — must speak with one voice. What that voice says must be determined by the Pakistani leadership. But what is clear is that it must be a civilian voice




Civilians must lead? sure, but exactly when othr than Quaid and Shaheed e Millat have civilians led in anything other than competetion with each other to empty the treasury and fill their bank accounts??

Curious that the Sharif contingent is silent, maybe they know which side their bread is buttered on
 
Gilani says Pakistan cannot fight to protect or save itself, Muktar says Pakistani armed will protect Pakistan -- What's going on here - since when does "Democracy" mean anarchy and disorganized, when when does it mean duplicity and double speak??? Where are all the PPP types hiding?? Council housing in the UK??



Armed forces equipped to protect Pakistan: Mukhtar

* Minister rejects reports COAS was aware of plot to bomb India embassy

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s armed forces are “fully capable to meet any eventuality and safeguard the country’s sovereignty and territorial integrity”, Federal Defence Minister Ahmad Mukhtar said on Friday.

“National frontiers of the country will be defended at all costs and external forces will not be allowed to violate Pakistan’s sovereignty,” Mukhtar told reporters during his visit to the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) in Kamra. Chief of Air Staff Tanvir Mehmood Ahmed was also present.

Earlier, on his arrival at the PAC headquarters, the minister was received by PAC Chairman Khalid Chaudhry.

Chaudhry gave a detailed presentation to the minister about the status of the ongoing projects undertaken by the PAC. He also briefed Mukhtar about the JF-17 Thunder Aircraft project.

The minister visited various factories, including Mirage and F-6 rebuild factories. He said he was highly impressed by the achievements made by PAC Kamra towards strengthening the defence of the country. He also praised the efforts made by the engineers and technicians in developing the country’s defence industry.

Plot: Meanwhile, Pakistan has reacted angrily at United States intelligence reports that Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Kayani was aware of the plot to bomb India embassy in Kabul in July this year, Online reported. “Such reports are totally baseless and unacceptable,” Mukhtar told the Times Now TV channel. “Pakistan is a peaceful state. Our army chief was not aware of the plot to blast Indian embassy in Kabul
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