Pakistan tests Hatf 9 Nasr Missile

[shaheenmissile]

just saw the video on ptv world, damn its accurate !

was it that Euro news video? from November last year?

 

[Kinetic]

Aaare yaar kitne bar!!! For everything India does you test the same within 2 days

 

[VelocuR]

I Don't know why indian think we have tested nasr in response to the mars mission?are they insane?or is it the extreme level of obsession with Pakistan?Please only answer in yes or no

Lol, Indians will go to US for help immediately to launch Mars 2.0 again.

 

[Zarvan]

Congrats! Video please.

@RiazHaq does pakistan's missile programme and Nasr missile? After all pak facing such social economic issue. Money can be invested in putting up more powere plants education etc etc instead of missiles !!

Well when there is bullish neighbor like you Missiles are always needed

 

[Zarvan]

just saw the video on ptv world, damn its accurate !

Post the video soon

 

[Kinetic]

Well when there is bullish neighbor like you Missiles are always needed

But everytime Pakistan attacked.. forgot kargil?

Lol, Indians will go to US for help immediately to launch Mars 2.0 again.

Predator doesnt fly over india... we dont get f16 as aid... we dont give US land for base.

 

[HRK]

Whether you consider it as an additional factor or only factor, use of tactical weapon on Indian forces on Pakistani soil is definitely going to harm you much more than indian forces or India. The idea of using tactical nuke on Pakistani soil is something unique. No other country in the world has such doctrine.

Its not about what I think or you think, its about the nuclear doctrine of both countries which again I would say is part of "War Strategy". plus keep in mind

1- Nasr is not the only tactical system in Pakistan's Nuclear Arsenal

2- Its employment against the advancing IBG of India is one of its possible use, not the only use.

3- Pakistan have both Strategic and Tactical options available to respond.

4- Strategic circles of Pakistan is aware of declare Indian "Nuclear Posture / Response"

5- Earlier Nuclear doctrine of Pakistan was to target populous and economic centers of India in response to the breach of the red line from Indian side.

6- Indian Cold Start doctrine is actually a 'Limited War Doctrine' which is being prepared because of two main
reasons:

• After becoming the Nuclear Nations both India & Pakistan can not afford a full-fledged war with each other
• India's inability to gather its forces at operational zone, before Pakistan

7- This Limited War Doctrine aka Cold Start represent the believe of Indian establishment that they can wage a war against Pakistan without crossing the red line.

8- In any of that unwanted situation Pakistan still upholds its previous nuclear doctrine as well, 'tactical nukes are just an additional factor to the previous doctrine.'

9- Which mean any miscalculated step by Indian side will lead to a full-scale war, because after the introduction of Tactical Nuclear weapon no war will remain limited.

10- Pakistan is using its tactical nuclear weapons to stop any potential war (read Limited War) in South Asia same as it used its strategic Nuclear capability to avoid full-scale War in the past.

11- God forbid if War occurred in subcontinent in future, Pakistan's nuclear retaliation (step by step escalation or full-scale) will be depended on the Indian response.

 

[Kinetic]

I Don't know why indian think we have tested nasr in response to the mars mission?are they insane?or is it the extreme level of obsession with Pakistan?Please only answer in yes or no

Lol se the timings of tests

 

[trident2010]

Can they be launched in vertical mode or only inclined?

 

[Chanakyaa]

Its not about what I think or you think, its about the nuclear doctrine of both countries which again I would say is part of "War Strategy". plus keep in mind
10- Pakistan is using its tactical nuclear weapons to stop any potential war in South Asia same as it used its strategic Nuclear capability in the past.

Did you Realize You Contradicted Yourself ?

TACTICAL WEAPONS =/= STOP POTENTIAL WAR

As Per Indian Doctrine Use of Any Tactical Nuke will AUTOMATICALLY Escalate to FULL SCALE - STRATEGIC RETALIATION.
Thats the Reason Rober Mc NMara Invented "MAD" and Later Tactical Nukes were Fully Eliminated via START Treaty.

We Can Learn from THEM, who have Played this Nuclear Game Much B4 US.

 

[ChennaiDude]

I don't have the link with me any more if I find one I would tell you


Dam How come you are so fast at making these posters ? @Stealth


Which ever thread I start Indians start trolling

Come on @Zarvan..you know pretty well why that is so?....You shall reap what you sow!...On topic..Congratulations.

 

[Jobless Jack]

Did you Realize You Contradicted Yourself ?

TACTICAL WEAPONS =/= STOP POTENTIAL WAR

As Per Indian Doctrine Use of Any Tactical Nuke will AUTOMATICALLY Escalate to FULL SCALE - STRATEGIC RETALIATION.
Thats the Reason Rober Mc NMara Invented "MAD" and Later Tactical Nukes were Fully Eliminated via START Treaty.

We Can Learn from THEM, who have Played this Nuclear Game Much B4 US.

basically the point of nasr is to prevent the start of a war.





basically this missles job is to negete the short conventional war that cold start doctorine wants to do. because pak can easily fire this into indian forces on the indian side if it feels its about to be over run at its international border(pak side). As soon as it does that that will bring nuclear rataliation from indian side. and since cold start wants to avoid nuclear war from both side it is negating the cold start doctorine. basically this missles aim is to prevent the start of any conflict.


the firing of this missle will be followed by ghauri , shaheen etc . so basically pak is saying the nuclear redline is as soon as we feel we are no longer able to hold our first line of defense .

hopefully no one on both side will be crazy enough to push buttons

 

[Bilal.]

Did you Realize You Contradicted Yourself ?

TACTICAL WEAPONS =/= STOP POTENTIAL WAR

As Per Indian Doctrine Use of Any Tactical Nuke will AUTOMATICALLY Escalate to FULL SCALE - STRATEGIC RETALIATION.
Thats the Reason Rober Mc NMara Invented "MAD" and Later Tactical Nukes were Fully Eliminated via START Treaty.

We Can Learn from THEM, who have Played this Nuclear Game Much B4 US.

That's the whole point, i.e., to lower the nuclear threshold and thus negate the limited war below nuclear threshold doctrine that was being pushed by some Indian strategists.

Limited war = use of tactical nukes = use of strategic nukes

 

[Chanakyaa]

That's the whole point, i.e., to lower the nuclear threshold and thus negate the limited war below nuclear threshold doctrine that was being pushed by some Indian strategists.

Limited war = use of tactical nukes = use of strategic nukes

Well, With a similar POV Soviets Deployed Tactical Nukes in Cuba.. Did it Prevent the War ?
NO.

Both Sides were about to Nuke Each Other, in less than 24 Hrs.
Later All Tactical Nukes were Removed under START. They Learnt their Lesson.

The VERY Existance of Tactical Nukes is Pointless ( Considering That the Hostile Nation WILL NOT DISTINGUISH Between Tactical or Strategic Weapon ) . Unless you wanna Vaporize YOUR Whole Nation while you nuke a frontline Batillion !

basically the point of nasr is to prevent the start of a war.

basically this missles job is to negete the short conventional war that cold start doctorine wants to do. because pak can easily fire this into indian forces on the indian side if it feels its about to be over run at its international border(pak side). As soon as it does that that will bring nuclear rataliation from indian side. and since cold start wants to avoid nuclear war from both side it is negating the cold start doctorine. basically this missles aim is to prevent the start of any conflict.

the firing of this missle will be followed by ghauri , shaheen etc . so basically pak is saying the nuclear redline is as soon as we feel we are no longer able to hold our first line of defense .

hopefully no one on both side will be crazy enough to push buttons

Well, This Logic is Flawed My Friend, considering that Though You May want to Just Fry say a Batallion of 600 Soldiers ... INDIA will See it as a Start of Nuclear War and Retalitite with EVERYTHING from EVERYTHING ( Sea / Land / Air ).

So This Equation is NOT Balanced as you may see.

 

[Bilal.]

Well, With a similar POV Soviets Deployed Tactical Nukes in Cuba.. Did it Prevent the War ?
NO.

The nukes in Cuba were NOT tactical. Who told you that? Tactical nukes were deployed in Europe for German front... Did it stop the war. Yes!