to me its a big deal
we are talking out of our arse we are lying.
I can bet Sartaj Aziz will have a different version from teh foreign office.
Ch Nisar will have another
our dear food loving PM will have yet another and the GHQ might have a mix of above or another version.
Meaning?
we say one thing and do other .. and we embarrass our friends. Saudis have not just pulled it off the hat without asking us. they must have had some confirmations from both civilian and military leadership during recent visits.
Sir, some master the art better than others, but diplomacy remains an art. My observation was merely matter of fact, and not intended to be cruel in any way at all. Pakistan has a very difficult balance to achieve here, given its relationship with Saudi Arabia.
I agree.
Might be this could be the outcome of their last visit.I assume that they were pretty unhappy with establishment's denial over military support in Yemen conflict and when they complained,as usual our ''ji huzoori'' politicians could have tried to give them some ''lolypop'' (Pakistan and arab are brotherly nations etc and we will cooperate when needed).
Also,during army chief's last visit,general Raheel Sharif clearly stated that if any attack on Saudi Arab's territory or sovereignty will be take place then Pakistan will be standing with them.Here are two videos,that you must watch:
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/10/31/gen-raheel-sharif-ne-saudia-arab-me-kia-kaha-hai-shahid-masood-tell/
Similarly,other such statements were surely given by politicians which were released in media.However,there are few questions that should be considered:
1-Why Pakistani regime has denied to become a part of this alliance?
i)Either arab regime has mistaken these diplomatic dialogues.
ii)Either they are trying to manipulate in other way around.
iii)Last but not least,might be they have agreed silently,but were not expecting that Arabs will expect some huge support.
Regards
Though the act of self introspection is highly beneficial and recommended, but this must be exercised along with having the bigger picture in mind.
In international relations and diplomacy, very strict protocols dictate engagement, since otherwise through human nature, quickly things start to gravitate towards profanity as is now evident from the melt down of diplomacy between Turkey and Russia.
In my view, Pakistan's statements were inline with general rules of diplomacy and courteous relations. I am not in anyway discounting the negative aspects of Saudi-Pakistani relations, but I am just saying, Pakistan can not come out and say 'screw you'. It is the other side, that has to have the intellect to understand what is being said in a polite manner.
Another aspect of this from Saudi perspective is their being stuck between a hard place and a rock. They have been hand reared and baby sitted by United States since 1930's and now United States is slowly but surely is trying to free itself from Saudi Arabia (and to a lesser extent Israel). Saudi Arabia has a plethora of internal problems, which are hidden from outside observers, chief among them being the issue of the political legitimacy of the ruling family of 5000 princes. Without a super power baby sitting them, it is a harsh world out there. So:
They needed Yemen war and a quick victory there, in order to legitimize themselves, specially after their attempt to dislodge Assad failed. To their horror, a Yemeni victory seems as illusive as ever. Picking up another fight while they are already in the middle of one, is beyond the competency and hard power of Saudi system. Therefore now, with US having been checkmated in Syria and capitulating in its 4 year old demand that "Assad must go", Saudis panicked and started clutching at the straws, announcing an "alliance" against "terror" with nations whose citizens are often themselves terrorized in Saudi Arabia and employed as nannies, laborers and outright slaves with no rights and no hope of ever ending up with Saudi citizenship.
This announcement more than illuminating what is wrong with Pakistan or its relation with Saudis, rather has made Saudis inherent internal weaknesses transparent.
With continuing heinous attacks around the world from Paris to California to Parachinar to Peshawar, in which all these perpetrators subscribe to Takfiri ideology emanating from Saudi Arabia, the Western world and even Islamic world are becoming less sympathetic to Saudis. As situation develops, the Saudi royal family will be under pressure to rein in the Takfiri ideology. And this is what Saudis want to avoid, since the political legitimacy of Saud family is entirely based on a tribal bedouin agreement between Saud family and Takfiri ideologues.
Under this agreement reached inside tents of Najd desert decades ago, before the discovery oil, the Saud family was allowed to claim political and economic ownership of a land named after them along with being allowed the debauchery as long as the Takfiris were allowed to have their way in matters of religious doctrines and its spread. This symbiotic relationship has in turn permitted Saudis to export the social 'entropy' of their backward culture, to other lands often under direct or indirect supervision of United States which used this entropy for its own strategic objectives. But now this entropy has become a menace for the world and Saudi political system has no safety valves whether cultural, bureaucratic, military or political to deal with this entropy.
Saudis tried to convince the West in one "last" attempt that this menace of entropy can be controlled and used against interests of Iran and Russia. That is why they held a conference just last week or so, gathering all these "Syrian" rebels. The idea was to unite them and present them to United States as a viable force in employment of American strategic objectives. That conference failed miserably. It is no longer possible to control this entropy.
Immediately afterwards, Saudis announced this "alliance". A PR move. Clutching at the straws.
A real alliance is not formed this way. A real alliance needs months and even years of diplomacy, an army of lawyers who have to be tasked with critical job of preparing a document to be signed after having researched and taken into account every aspect of local and international laws, and even the previous treaties and international obligations to which the member states are already part of.
This paper alliance will be forgotten eventually. The biggest winner out of this alliance seems to be Egypt which was quick to bill Saudis to the tune of billions of dollars since Saudis used the name of Egypt on their TV.
At least for now, Egypt seems the one who came on top because of this "alliance" announcement.
just add them 
