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there would be no surprise if they both attack siachin and ladakh togrther as a combined front
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Pakistan supports China on border tensions with India
Islamabad blames New Delhi's activities in disputed region for 'bloody clash' with China
Aamir Latif |17.06.2020
KARACHI, Pakistan
Pakistan on Wednesday threw its weight behind longtime ally Beijing on India-China face-off in the Ladakh area of disputed Jammu and Kashmir.
"China tried its best to resolve the [border] issue amicably, and through talks. But India did not take it with the same spirit, and continued constructions in the disputed region, which led to a bloody clash," Pakistan's Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi said in a statement.
A total of 20 Indian soldiers died on Tuesday as a result of border clashes with Chinese troops in Ladakh of the disputed Jammu and Kashmir region -- the first deadly clash between the two border forces since 1975.
The incident also added to the growing criticism over the foreign policy of India's nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who is already under fire for rising border tensions with neighboring Nepal, and displeasure of Bangladesh over controversial Citizenship Law.
"This is an extraordinary situation, which has been seen in the form of a bloody clash after several decades. This clearly is the result of India's Hindutva ideology," Qureshi asserted.
Supporting Beijing's "principled" stand on the border dispute with India, he said: "The 3,500-kilometer [2,174-mile] border of Ladakh and Tibet is a disputed region. If India thinks it can devour this area, then perhaps, it would not be acceptable to China."
Border tensions between the two countries have existed for over seven decades.
China claims territory in India's northeast, while New Delhi accuses Beijing of occupying its territory in the Aksai Chin plateau in the Himalayas, including part of the Ladakh region.
"Whenever India follows this [Hindutva] ideology, and shows this (kind of) stubbornness, situation in the region will deteriorate," he added.
Referring to India's scrapping of the decades-long special status of the disputed Jammu and Kashmir valley last August, the foreign minister noted that China and Pakistan had rejected New Delhi's controversial move, but "India, instead of showing a moderate approach, is toeing the policy of extremism."
Accusing New Delhi of "continuously" rejecting Islamabad's talks offer, Qureshi said: "Pakistan is a peace-loving country. But if India thinks Pakistan can be cowed down by its aggressive approach, (then) it will be a misunderstanding."
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/pakistan-supports-china-on-border-tensions-with-india/1879965
Pakistan supports China on border tensions with India
Islamabad blames New Delhi's activities in disputed region for 'bloody clash' with China
Aamir Latif |17.06.2020
KARACHI, Pakistan
Pakistan on Wednesday threw its weight behind longtime ally Beijing on India-China face-off in the Ladakh area of disputed Jammu and Kashmir.
"China tried its best to resolve the [border] issue amicably, and through talks. But India did not take it with the same spirit, and continued constructions in the disputed region, which led to a bloody clash," Pakistan's Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi said in a statement.
A total of 20 Indian soldiers died on Tuesday as a result of border clashes with Chinese troops in Ladakh of the disputed Jammu and Kashmir region -- the first deadly clash between the two border forces since 1975.
The incident also added to the growing criticism over the foreign policy of India's nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who is already under fire for rising border tensions with neighboring Nepal, and displeasure of Bangladesh over controversial Citizenship Law.
"This is an extraordinary situation, which has been seen in the form of a bloody clash after several decades. This clearly is the result of India's Hindutva ideology," Qureshi asserted.
Supporting Beijing's "principled" stand on the border dispute with India, he said: "The 3,500-kilometer [2,174-mile] border of Ladakh and Tibet is a disputed region. If India thinks it can devour this area, then perhaps, it would not be acceptable to China."
Border tensions between the two countries have existed for over seven decades.
China claims territory in India's northeast, while New Delhi accuses Beijing of occupying its territory in the Aksai Chin plateau in the Himalayas, including part of the Ladakh region.
"Whenever India follows this [Hindutva] ideology, and shows this (kind of) stubbornness, situation in the region will deteriorate," he added.
Referring to India's scrapping of the decades-long special status of the disputed Jammu and Kashmir valley last August, the foreign minister noted that China and Pakistan had rejected New Delhi's controversial move, but "India, instead of showing a moderate approach, is toeing the policy of extremism."
Accusing New Delhi of "continuously" rejecting Islamabad's talks offer, Qureshi said: "Pakistan is a peace-loving country. But if India thinks Pakistan can be cowed down by its aggressive approach, (then) it will be a misunderstanding."
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/pakistan-supports-china-on-border-tensions-with-india/1879965
i am pretty sure they already begging China for forgivness.Thank you Pakistan for the support. This detesting India is really asking for a 2 front war. China and Pakistan shall fulfill Indian wish.
Thank you Pakistan for the support. This detesting India is really asking for a 2 front war. China and Pakistan shall fulfill Indian wish.
What type of fucking bullshit is this? China has ceded more land to us than we have to them. Wait and let me find you a good source.
Give this a read moron before spouting garbage like that:
As a matter of fact. it's just compromise for the "time being"... nothing concrete.Kashmir's 1947 borders are displayed correctly on this map below?
Is Trans-Karakoram Tract shown in these maps a part of former Kashmir state? My second question why is that Pakistani PDFers exclude the Aksai region with this Trans-Karakoram Tract from the Keshmir issue , because they see these regions as separate geographic areas or because of mostly unpopulated areas? If you give link of a few articles about official Pakistani thesis on this, it would be very useful for people like me which are trying to understand countries' positions..
Just words.
or maybe we can swap territories and make new chicken necks..pakistan has compromised so much in love for china, it has handed over gwadar to china, already handed over parts of GB to china in 1962, laid off claim on aksai chin. If china acquires ladakh, probably pakistan would let go of its claim in ladakh as well.
regards
Check out the comments, your brothers are crying that Uncle Sam ain't coming.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...upport-for-new-delhi/articleshow/76430061.cms
Master you say? Hey, the US is God to the sanghis hahahaha.
dear waz, so naive, you think four quotes on a news website is what entire nation wants? with the same logic all pakistanis are like this what they do on pdf? (for the sake of language i wont explain... otherwise it will be too expletive)
and on the same topic, US presidents comes to India and have such a mega events that pakistan can never imagine. (this is true for all head of states)
last i remember not even a cricket team is coming to pakistan?
Thank you for the response.
There's many on there, not just four. I can list website after website full of Indian comments about the impending US/Indo alliance, and how disappointed they are now.
Yes US presidents have come to India, great events which they have enjoyed, but what did it/they deliver? Just a statement on how they will help a "negotiation". Here's a reality check they don't care, never have.
Were you one of those who believed in this?
'Naive' indeed......
I'm not sure why you bought up cricket.
i know where you coming from, and there are some MP's here who were running around just to shake hands with Bill Clinton... so i know what you are saying.
sometimes media makes it bigger event than it actually is. there were events with Shinzo Abe (on the banks of river Ganga) and France precedent Macron went largely unnoticed. Even the xi jinping meeting in Mallapuram did not got enough coverage....Trump is the poster boy right now .. hahaha.
but the comments on new sites are nothing to be taken seriously.
these head of state visits benefits in longer run, the bilateral agreements that were signed must be followed on by the bureaucrats.... India is getting better in this.
there are few real benefits of these visits ....
apologies for bringing cricket in between... that was uncalled for... i deleted that comment from my post.
Im trying to understand; Pakistan gained political and military support by giving these strategic passages to China? So, What progress has been made in the Kashmir problem for about 55-60 years in related with this "gift"?Giving it to China has other dynamics and that involves giving leeway to China as a player in the Siachin war theater.It has grave consequences for India in the long run.
So you dont really have the whole picture.
China used to have some historical claim over Hunza Valley and later China relinquished the claim, many in Chinese social media say that was because China wanted to maintain a good relationship with Pakistan.Im trying to understand; Pakistan gained political and military support by giving these strategic passages to China? So, What progress has been made in the Kashmir problem for about 55-60 years in related with this "gift"?
And again, When I do research on these topics on the internet, mostly see things about the Indian thesis. Please don't get it wrong, but I think we have a problem about explaining Pakistan theses enough to the world. It is almost impossible to find something without PDF.
We Pakistani and Chines stand with each other lets say we just supporting with words atleast we doing that whos standing with you..not even Nepal cuz you have been treating people like everyone is third class and you are super natural.Pakistan gave you some public support. Big deal.
They did not sign up to become your lackeys in your war of words with India, though.
Boy how i've had it with Chinese arrogance. Arrogance like you display here for instance, mr Beast.
given the ease with which it is, and was, to build aircraft and tanks and other equipment that moves through a mountain landscape in a fast manner, i'm gonna have to declare the entire kashmir dispute a bullshit dispute that is causing a lot of suffering.