Pakistan successfully test-fires Land based anti-ship missile

[Fawadqasim1]

most probably a variant of c602

 

[tarrar]

Congrats to all. The details about the tested missile is still unknown.

 

[Safriz]

Pakistan conducts anti-ship missile test
By: Usman Ansari, March 16, 2017 (Photo Credit: Pakistani Press Information Department)
ISLAMABAD — Pakistan successfully test launched a land-based anti-ship missile on Thursday, but the did not reveal its identity, possibly indicating it is a new development of its Babur land-attack cruise missile.

The military’s media branch, ISPR, said the “land-based anti-ship missile” featured “advanced technology and avionics, which enable engagement of targets at sea with high accuracy.”

The trial, witnessed by Vice Chief of Naval Staff Adm. Khan Hasham Bin Saddique and other senior officers, was undertaken in the coastal region. A warning to shipping regarding missile tests was issued for March 16-17.

Siddique congratulated the technical team, saying the test would help improve Pakistan’s defenses and operational reach of the Navy by enabling the launch of long-range, anti-ship missiles from land.

No performance details or even the name of the missile were provided, however.

Though an image released by the government’s Press Information Department appeared to show a Babur missile, its resolution was insufficient to accurately determine the missile’s identity.

In April last year, a shore-based anti-ship missile dubbed Zarb was test fired. It was speculated by analysts to be the Chinese C-602/YJ-62.

However, a naval industry official told Defense News at Pakistan’s biennial defense exhibition IDEAS 2016 in November that Pakistan was working on indigenous anti-ship missiles. This followed an earlier revelation buried in a Ministry of Defence Production report of development of a shipboard anti-ship missile launcher.

In December, steel was cut for the first indigenous Azmat Block II missile boat, which in can be determined from the images released at the time will carry a larger anti-ship missile than the C-802A/CSS-N-8 Saccade that arms the Block I boats.

No confirmation of this missile’s identity has been forthcoming since then, but it sparked speculation that Pakistan’s indigenous anti-ship missile efforts were perhaps more advanced than realized.

The Babur offers the quickest route to an indigenous anti-ship missile, with a range exceeding the limitations of the Missile Technology Control Regime in the same vein as the United States' UGM/RGM-109B (TAS-M) Tomahawk.

It has already provided the basis of further developments. The updated Babur II was tested in December. The sub-launched Babur III, was successfully tested in January, enabling Pakistan to establish a second-strike capability.

Though the C-602 reportedly cruises at a height of 30 meters, test-area altitude for today’s test was restricted to 1,500 meters — more akin to the higher cruise altitude of the Babur.

A Navy spokesman was asked to comment on the missile’s identity, but there was no reply by press time.

Image in the link.

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/pakistan-conducts-anti-ship-missile-test

@The Deterrent @HRK @Oscar @شاھین میزایل @Arsalan

What do you guys make of this,

The image in the news report is a file photo of Babur SLCM test launch.
As the article writer argues, Babur cruise missile is the shortest route Pakistan can take for having an indegenous anti ship missile of sufficient range. A 700 Km range babur can be converted to anti ship role by adding seeker and data link , which i suspect the missile already had.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Fail.
In continental shelf no permissions are needed for pipelines.

But permission do required for repair & maintenance .

 

[A.M.]

Um thats not entirely true, please do not indulge in nationalistic jingoism. Almost every system that has been deployed, has been extensively tested and declared to the world.
The only ones not usually disclosed are the new ones which are still under-development and haven't been tested yet.

Maybe you misunderstood but what i was saying is that we don't publicize every weapon at our disposal. There are many platforms that haven't been shared publicly to keep our enemies guessing.

That is a fact.

 

[graphican]

Pakistan conducts anti-ship missile test
By: Usman Ansari, March 16, 2017 (Photo Credit: Pakistani Press Information Department)
ISLAMABAD — Pakistan successfully test launched a land-based anti-ship missile on Thursday, but the did not reveal its identity, possibly indicating it is a new development of its Babur land-attack cruise missile.

The military’s media branch, ISPR, said the “land-based anti-ship missile” featured “advanced technology and avionics, which enable engagement of targets at sea with high accuracy.”

The trial, witnessed by Vice Chief of Naval Staff Adm. Khan Hasham Bin Saddique and other senior officers, was undertaken in the coastal region. A warning to shipping regarding missile tests was issued for March 16-17.

Siddique congratulated the technical team, saying the test would help improve Pakistan’s defenses and operational reach of the Navy by enabling the launch of long-range, anti-ship missiles from land.

No performance details or even the name of the missile were provided, however.

Though an image released by the government’s Press Information Department appeared to show a Babur missile, its resolution was insufficient to accurately determine the missile’s identity.

In April last year, a shore-based anti-ship missile dubbed Zarb was test fired. It was speculated by analysts to be the Chinese C-602/YJ-62.

However, a naval industry official told Defense News at Pakistan’s biennial defense exhibition IDEAS 2016 in November that Pakistan was working on indigenous anti-ship missiles. This followed an earlier revelation buried in a Ministry of Defence Production report of development of a shipboard anti-ship missile launcher.

In December, steel was cut for the first indigenous Azmat Block II missile boat, which in can be determined from the images released at the time will carry a larger anti-ship missile than the C-802A/CSS-N-8 Saccade that arms the Block I boats.

No confirmation of this missile’s identity has been forthcoming since then, but it sparked speculation that Pakistan’s indigenous anti-ship missile efforts were perhaps more advanced than realized.

The Babur offers the quickest route to an indigenous anti-ship missile, with a range exceeding the limitations of the Missile Technology Control Regime in the same vein as the United States' UGM/RGM-109B (TAS-M) Tomahawk.

It has already provided the basis of further developments. The updated Babur II was tested in December. The sub-launched Babur III, was successfully tested in January, enabling Pakistan to establish a second-strike capability.

Though the C-602 reportedly cruises at a height of 30 meters, test-area altitude for today’s test was restricted to 1,500 meters — more akin to the higher cruise altitude of the Babur.

A Navy spokesman was asked to comment on the missile’s identity, but there was no reply by press time.

Image in the link.

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/pakistan-conducts-anti-ship-missile-test

@The Deterrent @HRK @Oscar @شاھین میزایل @Arsalan

What do you guys make of this,

A shown image is that of Babur. But Pakistan revealed images of Babur-1, Babur-2, and Babur-3. Is that Babur-4? Why not reveal a high resolution image?. Babur is a subsonic missile by design with air intake at the bally, causing high drag, not suitable for supersonic speeds. So is that a subsonic antiship missile?

 

[The Deterrent]

@The Deterrent @HRK @Oscar @شاھین میزایل @Arsalan

What do you guys make of this,

There's really nothing to make of this, it was Zarb (aka local C-602). Claims of it being possibly Babur are not true.

Maybe you misunderstood but what i was saying is that we don't publicize every weapon at our disposal. There are many platforms that haven't been shared publicly to keep our enemies guessing.

That is a fact.

I don't think I misunderstood. Pakistan does publicize (however we do not boast like our neighbors) almost every complex weapon system (specially pertaining to strategic assets). Pakistan has to, hiding anything (even if possible) defeats the very purpose of deterrence.

Thats kind of ironic, to state something as a fact without knowing the specifics.

 

[Gregor Clegane]

But permission do required for repair & maintenance .

Nope.

 

[Safriz]

There's really nothing to make of this, it was Zarb (aka local C-602). Claims of it being possibly Babur are not true.

I don't think I misunderstood. Pakistan does publicize (however we do not boast like our neighbors) almost every complex weapon system (specially pertaining to strategic assets). Pakistan has to, hiding anything (even if possible) defeats the very purpose of deterrence.

Thats kind of ironic, to state something as a fact without knowing the specifics.

This test wasnt strategic missile, just an anti ship.
Navy has a history of holding back details of their assets. RBS-70 was never declared by exact name and always called by a general name by navy press releases.
What you are on about are the nuclear forces of Pakistan who release detailed enough specs of their missiles and tests as they have to deter enemy from attack.Conventional forces have to defend or attack. Different ideologies, different types of press releases.

 

[The Deterrent]

This test wasnt strategic missile, just an anti ship.

Never said it was, you misread it I guess.

 

[A.M.]

There's really nothing to make of this, it was Zarb (aka local C-602). Claims of it being possibly Babur are not true.

I don't think I misunderstood. Pakistan does publicize (however we do not boast like our neighbors) almost every complex weapon system (specially pertaining to strategic assets). Pakistan has to, hiding anything (even if possible) defeats the very purpose of deterrence.

Thats kind of ironic, to state something as a fact without knowing the specifics.

It's a fact. Trust me .

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Nope.

Lolz ok . try to sent your boats for repair & etc .if there were pipelines

 

[graphican]

If Pakistan is calling it another Babur (like Babur-4) or C-602 but still call it "advanced" and "ability to hit at long lengths" then that means our enemy is simply in deeper $hit. I reckon Indian ships shouldn't enter an area nearing 1000 KM or they they would tell us how deep this missile could strike.

 

[IceCold]

There's really nothing to make of this, it was Zarb (aka local C-602). Claims of it being possibly Babur are not true.

Shouldnt this missile be part of air force technically for anti ship role? Also since its subsonic missile how likely are its chances to succeed against systems like Phalanx?

 

[Arsalan]

Image in the link.

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/pakistan-conducts-anti-ship-missile-test

@The Deterrent @HRK @Oscar @شاھین میزایل @Arsalan

What do you guys make of this,

Yup, was just discussing this on some other thread. If we assume that the images of FAC shown at the steel cutting of Azmat Blk II were accurate and that is exactly what we are building at KSEW right now, even then the missile tubes look quite similar to those of C602.

Azmat Blk-II (if accurate) from first steel cutting ceremony

C602 Tubes on-board Type 52C destroyer
(Four cylindrical tubes configuration)

Land based C-602 battery
(Three cylindrical tube configuration)


Also getting C602 on-board the new FAC's make sense since we are already operating the missile from land based mobile platforms. I wont read too much into the article and will still say that the recent test was MOST LIKELY another C602. Azmat getting new missiles is not an indication that the missile will be a different one.