Pakistan Succesful Test Fired Hatf-VIII Ra'ad ALCM

[Saifullah Sani]

Pakistan tests Ra'ad ALCM

Pakistan successfully tested what it described as the "indigenously developed" Ra'ad air-launched cruise missile (ALCM) on 2 February, according to an Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) statement.

The 4.85 m-long, nuclear-capable Ra'ad was launched from an undisclosed air platform and was the fifth successful test firing to be announced. All previous tests, the most recent of which was on 31 May 2012, were conducted using an upgraded Dassault Mirage III ROSE aircraft.

The 350 km-range missile enables Pakistan to achieve "strategic standoff capability" on land and at sea, the Pakistan Army said.

Lieutenant General Zubair Mahmood Hayat, director general of the Strategic Plans Division, described it as a major step towards strengthening Pakistan's full spectrum credible minimum deterrence. This is aimed at achieving strategic stability in the region, he added.

The test took place two days after India tested a canister-based version of its nuclear-capable Agni 5 missile, which has a range of 5,000 km.

COMMENT
IHS Jane's Air Launched Weapons describes the Ra'ad (also known as the Hatf 8 or Hatf VIII) as "part of Pakistan's wide-reaching strategic missile development programme that includes short-, medium-, and intermediate-range ballistic missiles and ground-launched cruise missiles".

Air Launched Weapons also notes that the Ra'ad bears a resemblance to several proposed South African stand-off weapon projects such as MUPSOW and Torgos, and that Pakistan and South Africa have previously worked together in advanced weapons development. "Kentron (now Denel) has already supplied its Raptor powered glide bomb to the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and the extension of that relationship to include more advanced weapons would seem to be a logical step," it notes.

The first Ra'ad test launch was announced on 25 August 2007. It was conducted over the Rawalpindi test range. Pakistan television footage showed the missile under a Mirage IIIEA ROSE-1 during take-off and in flight. Missile release and engine start were shown, followed by in-flight filming of the missile. It is not known if this test represented the first flight of the weapon, or was simply a point in an ongoing test programme. A second launch was reported in May 2008, a third in April 2011, and the fourth in May 2012.


Pakistan tests Ra'ad ALCM - IHS Jane's 360

 

[Basel]

Why we won't use Migs

You comparing Erieye with Phalcon

I was response of your post in which you mentioned capability of SAMs, and also Migs are short leged in terms of range if IN try to blockade from far distance near Yemen.

IN can't deploy Phalcon to block sea lines, whereas PAF will deploy Karakoram Eagles and Erieye to take care of IN.

Yaar, if you bring this argument, than I can only say, call yourself chinese. Looks like Pakistanis have a bad habit of rolling on superpowers lap.


There are different types of space capabilities, for obviously they will not give you their space capsule, cryo, communication sat, no country does it. Because its their hardwork.

The most you can ask is for navigational purpose, because, Chinese are aware of Indian, Russian and US capabilities, that through Pakistan Indians or US can look inside Chinese satellite, and that will be the major breach of their sensitive communication network.

You lack awareness about network centric warfare.

@Abingdonboy @ares @sancho can give further technical details will Pakistan be allowed to use sensitive chinese military communication network via satellite.

They call us their Israel, this should clear what kind of access Pakistan have. If you think we don't know about NCW then go ask your military if they are potent then they will tell you that US have taught PN about NCW and USN & PN can be linked too, also PN is influenced with US NCW type systems so they are not outdated or old or less advance then any one.

 

[45'22']

Just for the sake of asking
Why can't we use Phalcons

I was response of your post in which you mentioned capability of SAMs, and also Migs are short leged in terms of range if IN try to blockade from far distance near Yemen.

IN can't deploy Phalcon to block sea lines, whereas PAF will deploy Karakoram Eagles and Erieye to take care of IN.



They call us their Israel, this should clear what kind of access Pakistan have. If you think we don't know about NCW then go ask your military if they are potent then they will tell you that US have taught PN about NCW and USN & PN can be linked too, also PN is influenced with US NCW type systems so they are not outdated or old or less advance then any one.

 

[AMCA]

Just for the sake of asking
Why can't we use Phalcons

Because its not a fair game if we use it

 

[Basel]

Just for the sake of asking
Why can't we use Phalcons

It will be suicidal to send land based AWACS to support IN near Yemen or Gulf of Aden, IN will have to use Hawk Eye type system for that and it will bring some parity with PAF as both will have similar range although Hawk Eye "D" model is game changer as it can guide BVRs to their targets.

 

[AMCA]

It will be suicidal to send land based AWACS to support IN near Yemen or Gulf of Aden, IN will have to use Hawk Eye type system for that and it will bring some parity with PAF as both will have similar range although Hawk Eye "D" model is game changer as it can guide BVRs to their targets.

First let me ask you. How didd you reach at a conclusion that Phalcon is a Land Based AWAC system?

 

[Basel]

First let me ask you. How didd you reach at a conclusion that Phalcon is a Land Based AWAC system?

First tell me how many Phalcon systems IN have? and if any they have, on which carrier based air craft they are mounted on?? IN is looking for Hawk Eye for their carrier based AWACS immediate solutions and all other systems which are with IAF are all land based. Means all air crafts fly from land based bases, please extend knowledge base.

 

[Neptune]

And how you know that Pakistan has not tested these type of systems?? Pakistan tests stuff many Pakistanis can't believe they have tested because we have good friends like China and Turkey. Few months back no one could have believed that Atlay Tank systems could end up in Pakistani tanks but they did.

OMG! Any source mate?

 

[RAMPAGE]

Few months back no one could have believed that Atlay Tank systems could end up in Pakistani tanks but they did.

You better not be talking out of your arse!

 

[Screambowl]

They call us their Israel, this should clear what kind of access Pakistan have. If you think we don't know about NCW then go ask your military if they are potent then they will tell you that US have taught PN about NCW and USN & PN can be linked too, also PN is influenced with US NCW type systems so they are not outdated or old or less advance then any one.

Now that's a troll

Israel is self sufficient in a lot of things. More over, jews are serving in top most positions in USA, thats the difference. Pakistan is just Pakistan, more to be precise , Proxy of China. Shameful!
So you agree that in case of war with India, if there is no Chinese help , Pakistan won't be able to stand a week.


What is US NCW type systems? You have access to American Military satellite and chinese Military satellite? Remember how Musharraf's talk to a commander in GHQ was intercepted by RAW? That's NCW.

So you have capability to connect yourself sitting in GHQ with a PN submarine at the east cost of Japan? Well only in 2018, when you get your first RSSS, may be.

Paksat1 (PalplaC) second hand satellite designed by China, of 2nd generation on DHF4 platform is what Pakistan has complete access to. 12C band and 18Ku Band with frequencies in GHz, too high for a military Satellite and Military uses MHz and no one gives this technology to any one. Of course it can be used for tracking, but only if the ground stations are not blown by IN or IAF.

And then you have to upgrade all your missiles to switch communication channels in microseconds, from satellite, to Vessels, Vessels to sat. You think it's a joke to upgrade all missiles avionics in short time? Crap

 

[DRaisinHerald]

Hatf is the standard title for all Pakistan missiles
Nasr, Raad etc are their INDIVIDUAL titles. Think of Hatf as a surname.

I think Pakistan needs some cool new names for missiles.

 

[RAMPAGE]

I think Pakistan needs some cool new names for missiles.

My dear boy, what you think is irrelevant!

 

[DRaisinHerald]

My dear boy, what you think is irrelevant!

Just a thought Call me crazy, but while Hatf, Raad and Shaheen are fine, names like Ghauri just make me cringe. I would think it's better to avoid personalities all together.

 

[RAMPAGE]

Just a thought Call me crazy, but while Hatf, Raad and Shaheen are fine, names like Ghauri just make me cringe. I would think it's better to avoid personalities all together.

Don't look at me. You'll have to convince the Molee Saab at the defence industry, charged with naming the equipment. Apparently his idea of cool is very different from yours.

 

[Bratva]

Yaar, if you bring this argument, than I can only say, call yourself chinese. Looks like Pakistanis have a bad habit of rolling on superpowers lap.


There are different types of space capabilities, for obviously they will not give you their space capsule, cryo, communication sat, no country does it. Because its their hardwork.

The most you can ask is for navigational purpose, because, Chinese are aware of Indian, Russian and US capabilities, that through Pakistan Indians or US can look inside Chinese satellite, and that will be the major breach of their sensitive communication network.

You lack awareness about network centric warfare.

@Abingdonboy @ares @sancho can give further technical details will Pakistan be allowed to use sensitive chinese military communication network via satellite.

Your lack of awareness about Pakistan NCW is amusing. Strategic Planning Division of Pakistan had signed agreement with chinese in 2012 to use Military grade Beidou signals. Signing ceremony pictures of then SPD DG and Chinese Beidou project director and Military officials are somewhere in this forum.

Last year Pakistan has began to establish Beidou base stations

Pakistan becomes first country to deploy China’s BeiDou GPS network – The Express Tribune

Look up at IDEAS 2014 thread. There are pictures of Pakistani advance NCW system. PA and PAF are in lead in deploying their NCW systems