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JF-17 Still an Option in Egypt-Pakistan Defense Cooperation Drive

ISLAMABAD — Despite having opted for French and Russian fighter aircraft earlier this year, Egypt has reportedly expressed an interest in the Sino-Pakistan JF-17 Thunder. This has come as a surprise to analysts who had considered the possibility of Egypt acquiring the JF-17 to be lost.

The interest comes as part of a wider push to increase defense industry cooperation between the two countries, according to a Dec. 4 news release by the Pakistani government's Press Information Department. It outlined how the Egyptian ambassador to Islamabad, Sherif Shaheen, met Pakistan's Minister for Defence Production Tanveer Hussain to discuss improving bilateral defense cooperation.

A cadet exchange program is already in place, but both sides were "looking at collaboration in defense industry as the core of relations between Pakistan and Egypt," according to the news release.

As a matter of policy, officials in Pakistan do not discuss potential defense deals until they are signed.

However, author, analyst and former Pakistani Air Force pilot Kaiser Tufail says there are two main reasons the JF-17 appeals to developing nations.

"It offers the best value for money, being one of the cheapest of the modern fighters to purchase and maintain," he said. "Its sale is not constrained by big power politics, in that it is not likely to be used as a tool for exercising leverage over the purchaser's foreign or defense policies. Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Jordan (possibly) and now Egypt are keenly eyeing the JF-17 for these reasons."

In respect to a potential Egyptian deal, author, analyst and former Australian defense attache to Islamabad Brian Cloughley believes the JF-17 has a key advantage over other fighter aircraft the Egyptians may be able to acquire.

"The Egyptians have many sources for combat aircraft, but none of those being considered for provision of advanced fighters manufacture anything like the JF-17," Cloughley said.

The Rafale and MiG-35 are larger twin-engine fighters in comparison to the JF-17, and unlike the latter are off the shelf purchases, with no local production offered for Egypt.

Analysts believe this is where the JF-17 has another advantage, and one that builds on experience.

Egypt already operates 120 Sino-Pakistani Hongdu K-8 jet trainer aircraft, the majority of which were built in Egypt by the Arab Organization for Industrialization. A similar deal for the construction of the JF-17 has been speculated since Egypt first reportedly expressed an interest in the JF-17 in 2010.

The bulk of Egypt's modern fighter fleet comprises of some 220 F-16C/Ds, but these are supported by a larger number of legacy Mirage 5, MiG-21 and Chengdu J-7 fighters. The order for 46 MiG-35s will likely replace the MiG-21s, but this leaves nearly 140 Mirage 5s and J-7s needing replacement.

As the JF-17 was designed precisely to replace these types, Tufail says it is "an excellent platform to replace the older fleet of Mirage III/5, MiG-21/F-7" and the "glitch-free induction and full operational capability of the JF-17 in the Pakistan Air Force makes a great sales pitch for export."

Likewise, Cloughley believes the JF-17 still has a good chance to secure a sizable Egyptian order but believes it is too early to be certain.

"It seems that it would be a good choice to replace the Mirages, which are very long in the tooth, but as always the detail is in the possible deal. It's too early to speculate on what mutually agreeable terms might be, but it's likely that Pakistan (and China) would come up with a tempting offer," Cloughley said.

Pakistan is accepting JF-17 Block 2 aircraft into service, of which it ordered 50. There have been some key Block 2 features such as in-flight refueling and other modifications that will be retrofitted to the Block 1 aircraft.

However, recent reports in the Chinese media have stated any export customers will be acquiring the forthcoming Block 3 that is in its final design stages. Though it is believed to feature an AESA radar, officials are tightlipped on confirming specific details, only saying the Block 3 will be a "game changer."

A two,seat, fully combat-capable variant of the JF-17 is also believed to be undergoing the final stages of testing in China before it is unveiled.

JF-17 Still an Option in Egypt-Pakistan defense cooperation drive
 
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i am pessimistic about this, i hope it turns out to be true but reliability of our media is making me hold on to my horses here

Kudos to Pakistan!!
Indegenious or JV...Pakistani airforce has shown how to nurture the aerospace industry...hope this wakes up IAF!!

one of my professor says "any mistake you make is a step towards success because every time you fall you learn" you guys with LCA program have gained a lot in my opinion, it might not be operational and subject to delays but none the less it would have given your engineer's and scientists invaluable learning, all the best for your programs and thanks for the warm wishes, wish other Indian's were like you and few others here.
 
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@Silicon0000 @YousufSSG @DESERT FIGHTER

I'm guessing Sri Lanka will be looking to buy block 2? If yes, that's $224 million at least for the eight. Good news indeed, if confimed.

InshALLAH your figures are right , but i think the srilankans will buy the block 3 , because by 2017 or 18 , block 3 would be the most advance jet in the PAC menu, the block 3 package would definitely attract them , and a block 3 costs about 33 + million $ each . What do you guys say ?
 
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InshALLAH you figures are right , but i think the srilankans will buy the block 3 , because by 2017 or 18 , block 3 would be the most advance jet in the PAC menu, the block 3 package would definitely attract them , and a block 3 costs about 33 + million $ each . What do you guys say ?

Probably yes if its in 2017-18, but where you get the timeline of 2017-18?
 
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Well well well, this means now Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Burma will be flying JFT. All neighbours to India. My guess is next customers could be Nepal and Bhutan.... India would be surrounded by JFT :pleasantry::pleasantry::dance3::dance3:
 
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i am pessimistic about this, i hope it turns out to be true but reliability of our media is making me hold on to my horses here



one of my professor says "any mistake you make is a step towards success because every time you fall you learn" you guys with LCA program have gained a lot in my opinion, it might not be operational and subject to delays but none the less it would have given your engineer's and scientists invaluable learning, all the best for your programs and thanks for the warm wishes, wish other Indian's were like you and few others here.
Probably yes if its in 2017-18, but where you get the timeline of 2017-18?

just a guess bro
 
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Pakistan currently produce @ 16 JF-17 per year for his own use and they have the capacity of going upto 25 JF-17 per year so these can be delivered within one year easily.
 
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Well well well, this means now Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Burma will be flying JFT. All neighbours to India. My guess is next customers could be Nepal and Bhutan.... India would be surrounded by JFT :pleasantry::pleasantry::dance3::dance3:

There are rumours that China will also induct some of these Jets
 
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InshALLAH your figures are right , but i think the srilankans will buy the block 3 , because by 2017 or 18 , block 3 would be the most advance jet in the PAC menu, the block 3 package would definitely attract them , and a block 3 costs about 33 + million $ each . What do you guys say ?

block 3 hasn't even been unveiled yet. Not sure how optimistic the induction of block 3 would be by 2017-18. Let's see, I really want to see official confirmation before I get my hopes high though, previous experience warrants caution when dealing with such news.
 
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Well well well, this means now Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Burma will be flying JFT. All neighbours to India. My guess is next customers could be Nepal and Bhutan.... India would be surrounded by JFT :pleasantry::pleasantry::dance3::dance3:


You forget Bangladesh :p:
 
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There are rumours that China will also induct some of these Jets
meh i don't think China would do that unke pas apne itne aala jets hain :cry:
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block 3 hasn't even been unveiled yet. Not sure how optimistic the induction of block 3 would be by 2017-18. Let's see, I really want to see official confirmation before I get my hopes high though, previous experience warrants caution when dealing with such news.
JFT uses mostly off the self tech and a modular type jet so it won't require much time for new blocks.
 
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@Silicon0000 @YousufSSG @DESERT FIGHTER

I'm guessing Sri Lanka will be looking to buy block 2? If yes, that's $224 million at least for the eight. Good news indeed, if confimed.

Yes ... It's BLKII we are taking about ... Even older BLKIs are undergoing upgrades to BLKII status... The deal will be worth ALOT more... Pak sold 20 SMS to Iraq for almost 200 mil.. 92 million was the price of the aircrafts but the additional cost included training,spares etc.

Also 8 is the initial number (according to the article).. They would buy more (atleast a sqd)... The costs would also increase..
 
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Yes ... It's BLKII we are taking about ... Even older BLKIs are undergoing upgrades to BLKII status... The deal will be worth ALOT more... Pak sold 20 SMS to Iraq for almost 200 mil.. 92 million was the price of the aircrafts but the additional cost included training,spares etc.

Also 8 is the initial number (according to the article).. They would buy more (atleast a sqd)... The costs would also increase..

May be initial order of 8 will be of Block 2, Block 3 has to follow. Just a wild guess :angel:
 
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