Pakistan should 'pull out' of Kashmir first, suggests Achakzai

[El Sidd]

Both are not same. If the ones in IoK don't want to become part of Pakistan then what do you suggest? We should stop doing any Kargil 2.0 or like in 1965 by sending "razakaars", both times spiritual Pakistanis backed off. Both times mistakes by dictators who calculated it wrong.

We can make IoK hell for India in many other ways like now without sending any army or starting war.

Dude it's a police state. More than 700000 forces deployed with clear and almost year round open supply routes.

Quite embarrassing that you think they have done nothing. They are thousands of times better Pakistanis than you and I both dream be. Stop maligning Pakistan on this forum. From someone who like Zia ul haqs tribute atleast be consistent.

Aren't you saying mahajirs should go back too? What then when Azad Kashmir government just say fukk this shizz we going with the better economy. Or if they stay and claim mahajir card? What would you do then.

Please be consistent. You have internal battle going on which is far more important to address than these internet forum.

I am telling you this as an old buddha as you cutely call me. Aap Pakistan studies ki book thoda dobara parh len.

 

[Kabira]

Dude it's a police state. More than 700000 forces deployed with clear and almost year round open supply routes.

Quite embarrassing that you think they have done nothing. They are thousands of times better Pakistanis than you and I both dream be. Stop maligning Pakistan on this forum. From someone who like Zia ul haqs tribute atleast be consistent.

Aren't you saying mahajirs should go back too? What then when Azad Kashmir government just say fukk this shizz we going with the better economy. Or if they stay and claim mahajir card? What would you do then.

Please be consistent. You have internal battle going on which is far more important to address than these internet forum.

I am telling you this as an old buddha as you cutely call me. Aap Pakistan studies ki book thoda dobara parh len.

Pakistan guarantee AJK-GB to become part of India if they wish to do so in refferendum. What is wrong with it? Are you going against Pakistan stance on Kashmir? Are you out of your mind in this age?

 

[El Sidd]

Pakistan guarantee AJK-GB to become part of India if they wish to do so in refferendum. What is wrong with it? Are you going against Pakistan stance on Kashmir? Are you out of your mind in this age?

Yes. And they will not just like the Kashmiris. But if you divide a people it's not a good idea either?

Pakistan has a stance on Kashmir registered at the UN.

Every Pakistani agrees to that as well.

 

[RealNapster]

bro Achakzai accosted pakhtoons either in KPK or Baluchistan to gain the sympathy of pakhtoon regarding kashmir. in my opinion he tried fail political move against PTI by playing Kashmir card among pakhtoons . may be pakhtoon will support him regarding kashmir.

Achakzai have no say or any support in KP excluding Molana Diesel, who support this scum. Achakzai's main Focus is on Baluchistan Pashtoon. so if he sometimes says in news channel interviews that Pakhtoon of Baluchistan and KPK , it doesn't really matters. He is no one For KP citizens.

 

[Eagle_storm]

another abudullah ibne sabah(former jewish responsible for the conspiracy against khulfa rashideen hazrat umar r.a hazrat usman r.a and hazrat ali r.a
trying to rise abu lo lo feroz.

 

[Pakistani E]

Where's DG Sindh Rangers when you need him?

 

[Zibago]

His role is only of an attention diverter when sharif,s are in trouble

 

[Tps43]

sounds fair enough if he has enough support from

MQM - check
PMLN - depends on what Nawaz can get back from the grand political alliance being touted
ANP - check
PPP - oh yes Bhutto always preferred non violent Kashmir policy, the shaheed of demo lunacy
JI and JUIF will probably do the back channel diplomacy while shouting I-slam you Slam we all do slam slam
PTI will become irrelevant since lets face it IK has sent ganday messages so he has no moral right to talk on Kashmir

that leaves PDP

PDP will never ever forsake the Pakistani stand on Kashmir.

PDP will conduct public referendum on it

 

[Mian Babban]

If demand of Kashmiris is "Kashmir banega Pakistan" then Achakzai is wrong. If demand of Kashmiris is an independent country, then Achakzai makes sense.

bro Achakzai accosted pakhtoons either in KPK or Baluchistan to gain the sympathy of pakhtoon regarding kashmir.

How you came to the conclusion that Pakhtuns wish to see Pakistan pull out from Azad Kashmir and Achakzai is cashing on that sentiment?

 

[Shah Khalid]

The first step doesn't stop there...it ends with handing over the territory to India.

No It Actually Ends With Pakistanis and Kashmiris Showing India The Middle Finger

 

[shahbaz baig]

How you came to the conclusion that Pakhtuns wish to see Pakistan pull out from Azad Kashmir and Achakzai is cashing on that sentiment?

kindly quote me with my full comment. and if you are smart enough you should have understood by reading my comment (full context) . and read my all comment to understand what i meant.

yes he is defiantly trying to cash the sentiment of pakhtoon to gain the sympathy politically... i didn't say that pakhtun will defiantly support him. let's see if pakhtuns start to agree with him or not and that's exactly what i meant.
there is a difference between conclusion & prediction.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Pakistan should 'pull out' of Kashmir first, suggests Achakzai
By News Desk
Published: August 18, 2017

PKMAP chief Mahmood Khan Achakzai. PHOTO: INP

Chief of Pakhtoonkhwa Milli Awami Party (PkMAP) Mehmood Khan Achakzai has said that Pakistan should make the first move and initiate the idea of an independent Kashmir.

“Why don’t we adopt a new policy on Kashmir dispute..Let Kashmir be free from both India and Pakistan..Kashmir is the root cause of many issues between both the countries. Why not we take the first step to solve it,?’’ the Pashtun leader told BBC Urdu on Friday.

He said that by putting forward this suggestion, Pakistan would be able to tell the world that is sincere in resolving the dispute.

“We agree on referendum, yet we blame each other. The masses, however, are dying. We need to have better relationship with our neighbours,” Achakzai said.

The restive Himalayan region suffered a rise in violence last year after the killing in July of Burhan Wani, popular young rebel leader in a gun battle with Indian soldiers.

“It would be sheer foolishness on our part to expect zero interference from our opposition. We will not be able to complete the China Pakistan Economic Corridor without peace. We have to make peace with Afghanistan, Iran and India.”

Protest in Azad Kashmir against HuM terrorist designation

The PkMAP chief said the Afghan issue became global when Soviet forces invaded the country. “Now, we should pardon ourselves from such situations,” he said. “America and our establishment is well aware of whoever they have trained, now they should get rid of them, and if they do not take it seriously, this region will burn to ashes”.

He said Afghanistan’s autonomy shall be respected, or else destruction can take place.

‘’Please repent, our establishment must step back, must not interfere in elections, kindly put an end to the game of ‘safe havens’, learn to trust people, whoever comes from public mandate must be trusted,’’ Achakzai said.

While Islamabad blames Kabul for hosting militants responsible for carrying out attacks in the country, Afghanistan also routinely accuses Pakistan of providing safe haven to the Afghan Taliban.

If Pakistan, he added, works with sincerity, 60% of issues with Afghanistan will be resolved.

Last year, the Pashtun nationalist leader had stoked a controversy after he reportedly said that Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province ‘belongs to Afghans’.

In an interview with Kabul-based English language daily Afghanistan Times, Achakza said “K-P belongs to Afghans and they can live there without fear and irritation”.

First, Achakzai should pi$$ off to Afghanistan. His real home. Pashtun don't even pi$$ on this Afghan coward.

 

[Mian Babban]

kindly quote me with my full comment. and if you are smart enough you should have understood by reading my comment (full context) . and read my all comment to understand what i meant.

yes he is defiantly trying to cash the sentiment of pakhtoon to gain the sympathy politically... i didn't say that pakhtun will definatly support him. let's see if pakhtuns start to agree with him or not and that's exactly what i meant.
there is a different between conclusion & prediction.

I dont buy it. Pashtun nationalist highlights/use Pashtun matters and issues concerning their lands, to cash on or exploit the sentiments of Pashtuns...what has the statement about Pakistani soldiers pulling out from Azad Kashmir any thing to do with the sentiments of Pakhtuns?. You are implying as if it will earn him votes and popularity among Pakhtuns

 

[shahbaz baig]

First, Achakzai should pi$$ off to Afghanistan. His real home. Pashtun don't even pi$$ on this Afghan coward.

he is trying hard to gain the sympathy of pakhtoon lets see what's next.

I dont buy it. Pashtun nationalist highlights/use Pashtun matters and issues concerning their lands, to cash on or exploit the sentiments of Pashtuns...what has the statement about Pakistani soldiers pulling out from Azad Kashmir any thing to do with the sentiments of Pakhtuns?. You are implying as if it will earn him votes and popularity among Pakhtuns

you got me dear. in my opinion he played the failed Political move.

 

[maximuswarrior]

he is trying hard to gain the sympathy of pakhtoon lets see what's next.

you got me dear. in my opinion he played the failed Political move.

Well, I'm a Pashtun and as far as I'm concerned he can pack his bags and leave for India or Afghanistan. We know exactly who this closet Bacha Khan worshipper is.