Pakistan should consider Y 20 & MI 26

[C130]

C17 is a strategic lifter, we don't have any need of it. In fact no nation needs it except USA because they fight a lot of wars overseas. C130 is best suited for us because it can land at and take-off from shorter runways so it can access even smaller airbases.

might as well go for the Y-9 then

 

[Providence]

Wut ? Doesn't make sense at all ..

 

[Techy]

Our Chinooks in various roles:

 

[Zarvan]

With current budget no but as economy improves yes we need them

 

[abbasalai]

Our Chinooks in various roles:

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Opened this thread due to we put out focus on fighter jets etc but these beast we forget which are backbone if any force as Pakistan procured last time in 80 era C 130 Hercules we did not purchased since than any cargo plane apart from C 32 from China which are also as medium lift as we know our military are growing we need heavylifter cargo China recently made Y 20 cargo plane it is similar to C 17 Globemaster but no compromise on quality and features keeping in mind Chinese premieres visit Pakistan should order 2 to 4 Y 20 aircrafts

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Why only these?
PAF can also order a few of these

This would also help Lahore Metro Train project.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

China's first indigenously-developed heavy military transport aircraft, Y-20, is being built by Xi'an Aircraft Industry (Group), a part of Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), for the People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF). It is also the biggest domestic strategic airlifter ever built in China.
The aircraft can be deployed in the transportation of personnel and heavy equipment during military assault, and humanitarian assistance and peacekeeping missions. It can also be configured for airborne early warning and control (AEW&C), anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and aerial refuelling missions.
"The first Xian Y-20 prototype successfully made its first flight at Shaanxi Yanliang Aviation Base in January 2013."
The first Xian Y-20 prototype successfully made its first flight at Shaanxi Yanliang Aviation Base in January 2013. The second prototype took into skies in December 2013. The aircraft was displayed at China International Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition 2014 (Airshow China) held in Zhuhai.
The PLAAF needs 400 Y-20 transport aircraft and expects deliveries of the same to begin in 2017.
Xian Y-20 development

The Y-20 project is part of an initiative to build China's large transportation aircraft under Medium-and Long-Term National Science and Technology Development Programme 2006-2020 (MLP).
Two major Chinese aviation companies Shaanxi Aircraft Corporation and Xi'an Aircraft Corporation expressed interest to develop the Y-20 aircraft, but Xi'an was announced as the manufacturer of Y-20 in 2007.
Design and features of Y-20 heavy airlifter

The aircraft features deep and wide fuselage for cargo section and T-tail empennage configuration with high-mounted horizontal surfaces on the vertical stabiliser. The centre fuselage is hinged with moderately sweptback, high-mounted monoplane wings integrating triple-slotted trailing-edge flaps. A pair of engine nacelle is fitted under each wing.
The Y-20 airlifter has a glass cockpit, which accommodates three crew members. It features a rear cargo-loading assembly allowing the loading / unloading of large-sized cargo and equipment.
KJ-2000 (Mainring) Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEW&C) Aircraft, China
KJ-2000 (Mainring) is an AEW&C aircraft designed and developed by AVIC Xi'an Aircraft Industry Company.
The aircraft is expected to measure 44m to 47m in length and 18m in height and have a wingspan of 50m. The maximum takeoff weight of the aircraft is approximately 220t and the maximum payload carrying capacity is 66t.
Engines and performance

The power plant of the Y-20 prototypes integrates four D-30KP-2 turbofan engines, whereas the production aircraft is expected to be equipped with WS-20 engines. WS-20 is the most powerful aircraft engine developed by China.
The engine develops a power output of 14t and offers a higher bypass ratio for fuel efficiency. It will replace the less powerful and less efficient Russian D-30KP, which generates 10.5t of thrust. The WS-20 turbofan has been under trail on Il-76 test aircraft since 2014. The aerial testing is expected to conclude in late 2015, paving the way for service entry on Y-20 aircraft.
The Y-20 aircraft can perform missions in adverse weather conditions and can also land at small airports in mountainous regions.
Landing gear

The aircraft is equipped with a retractable landing gear comprising two main landing gear units and a nose unit. Each of the two main units on either side of under-fuselage features six wheels, which are arranged in a two-two-two layout from front-to back.
The steerable nose gear includes a standard twin-wheel leg unit. The landing gear allows take-offs and landings on rough airfields or unpaved runways.

If it's China's first heavy military transport air craft we have to wait a while and let it mature.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Yes why not it's all about money .

I think instead of heavy lift Helicopters we should go for Heavy lift Planes and some Mi-26 for Northern Areas

Why only these?
PAF can also order a few of these

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This would also help Lahore Metro Train project.

ANTONOV came many times to Karachi Airport

 

[mingle]

If it's China's first heavy military transport air craft we have to wait a while and let it mature.

PLZ don't say that if Showbaz read this he might order this through Hanif abassi .

 

[Mustang06]

Instead of going for few Mi 26 which is very expensive to operate you can go for a lot of medium helicopters.
India is also retiring Mi 26 for high cost of operation and maintenance and for replacement for C-130 it would be Y-8 which has same payload as C-130 plus added benefit of common platform ZDK-03 which would reduce maintenance cost!

 

[Super Falcon]

newer mi 26 has medium type of maintanance dont forget this helicopter can do wonders in emergency time such as rescue and relief operations and can carry massive payload at one go other wise you need 3 different helis to do job of one mi 26

Bhai Super Falcon,

1) Induction of a new platform, always has a learning curve, some steeper than others.
2) Maintenance
3) Cost $/hr.
4) Training
5) Avg down time of the aircraft in question

etc etc etc. Kindly take the above into consideration. Thank You

If it right than Pakistan never buy MI 3rd because we it is new platform why waste time on learning and training

Next thread from Super Falcon "Pakistan army should consider F-35"

Sho some respect kid to seniors first of ĺ all your mind is full of negativity for me my thread only for those things which Pakistan have chance and need to buy For might be your agenda not mine for your kind info cargo planes e are back bone ofun any military in World smaller or bigger military needs it

I heard Italy has some chinkook helps it want to sell I might be wrong but I remember it

 

[Super Falcon]

Transports are need of order our military growing why not grow back bon of any military transport planes

 

[wiseone2]

Opened this thread due to we put out focus on fighter jets etc but these beast we forget which are backbone if any force as Pakistan procured last time in 80 era C 130 Hercules we did not purchased since than any cargo plane apart from C 32 from China which are also as medium lift as we know our military are growing we need heavylifter cargo China recently made Y 20 cargo plane it is similar to C 17 Globemaster but no compromise on quality and features keeping in mind Chinese premieres visit Pakistan should order 2 to 4 Y 20 aircrafts

The Y-20 is still in prototype. The prototypes are still being powered by Russian engines.

 

[thepakistani]

Pakistan is in need of good heavy transporter planes, now a days such transporters are the basic requirement for swift movement of troops and war equipment. India recently got large transporter planes and heavy lifter chinook from USA in good number.

Probably we are left with one choice only the Y 20

 

[Trailer23]

Probably we are left with one choice only the Y 20

That is (if) China wants to part with it & offer it to us exclusively.

To my understanding, both the Y-20 & J-20 are currently off-limits.