Pakistan should acknowledge Khalistan Movement

[Crusher]

Sikh / Kashmiri people's struggle is one and same they want freedom from Hindu Baniya

Sikh / Kashmiri people's struggle is one and same they want freedom from Hindu Brahmins, Rajputs, Jats, Gujjars and Baniya. It is absolutely wrong to simplify Hindu = Baniya, strictly speaking the Hindu religion is the religion of Brahmins, Rajputs and Khatris of India. Hindu Baniya, Jat, Gujjar are second class Hindus and are somewhat less bigot (but not by big margin) than Brahmins/Rajputs/Khatri Hindus.

 

[Reddington]

Sikh / Kashmiri people's struggle is one and same they want freedom from Hindu Brahmins, Rajputs, Jats, Gujjars and Baniya. It is absolutely wrong to simplify Hindu = Baniya, strictly speaking the Hindu religion is the religion of Brahmins, Rajputs and Khatris of India. Hindu Baniya, Jat, Gujjar are second class Hindus and are somewhat less bigot (but not by big margin) than Brahmins/Rajputs/Khatri Hindus.

I thought Hindu and Baniya was same. Is there a difference between the two???

 

[Rakesh]

Wishing destruction of enemy is legitimate feeling, however ranting without knowledge and understanding of subject will not help the cause.
Current Chief Minister of Punjab is from Congress party. Baki aap khud search kar le aur samajh le.

 

[LeGenD]

We shouldn't do this openly.

WE should.

India must be made to understand the consequences of its pathetic moves recently.

Good time to raise a powerful militia for the liberation of Kashmir as well.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

If Khalistan Movement is combined with Kashmir Movement , it will make it easier to make progress here is why Geographically , Khalistan State , will be our neighbor and we won't have to deal with Hindu Indians

India will no longer have a Land link to Kashmir


We should do a Treaty of Independence with Khalistani Elders , and acknowledge the State of Khaslistan and promise to make it MOST FAVORABLE COUNTRY next to china


We can just do a Bilateral Agreement with Khalistan President

 

[Crusher]

I thought Hindu and Baniya was same. Is there a difference between the two???

Yes a clear difference, Baniya is just a "caste" among Hindu Shopkeepers in just few parts of India. Saying "Hindu Baniya" is same as if indians saying "Muslim Arain" or "Muslim Gujjar" etc.

Strictly speaking "Hinduism" is the religion of "Brahmins", its other name is "Brahmanism" and Hindu Rajputs consider themselves to be martial protectors of Hinduism/Brahmanism. I don't know where "Baniya" comes in the mind of the people when referring to Hindus of India, "Hindu Brahmin" is much more accurate term as the whole religion of Hinduism revolves around Brahmins.

 

[B.K.N]

Strictly speaking "Hinduism" is the religion of "Brahmins",

If Modi and other politicians like him are Brahmins

 

[Crusher]

If Modi and other politicians like him are Brahmins

No Modi is a "Teli" caste person from Gujarat province of India, for a Brahmin/Rajput Hindu modi is a "clean Shudar" caste person. Artisans are called "OBC" (other backward castes) in india.

 

[B.K.N]

Hindu Baniya, Jat, Gujjar are second class Hindus

In Hindu caste system Brahmin is highest caste they are religious people people respect them but they are not most powerful politically then are khashtryas they were people of higher social status then are people like farmers traders etc they are called waish and lowest caste is shodar
This is what was taught to us about Hindu caste system in social studies

Teli

Teli means those people who extract oil from seeds at kohlu right

 

[Crusher]

In Hindu caste system Brahmin is highest caste they are religious people people respect them but they are not most powerful politically then are khashtryas they were people of higher social status then are people like farmers traders etc they are called waish and lowest caste is shodar
This is what was taught to us about Hindu caste system in social studies


Teli means those people who extract oil from seeds at kohlu right

There is another category below Shudar and that is called "Dalit" in their system, Dalits are not considered "hindu" or "dharmic" by other four castes Brahmins/Khastria(Rajput)/Waish/Shudar. Dalits are people in hindu society who perform "dirty" and "impure" jobs such as leather workers (chammars) and sweepers/cleaners (Bhangi).

 

[HAIDER]

Punjab is buffer zone. India has very limited border region left to strike Pakistan. Only area is desert region.

 

[Crusher]

Teli means those people who extract oil from seeds at kohlu right

Yes Teli is a hereditary "caste" associated with "oil extractors" and sellers. Just like in Punjab villages, their status is same as other Artisans like Tarkhan, Kumhar etc. so-called "clean shudars" in hindu caste system.

 

[B.K.N]

Rajput

I think this is not some caste or a group of people but people of higher social status were called rajput Matlab son of raja similar to nawabzada or makhdom or makhdomzada
There are poor farmers and nawabs in same caste or tribe those nawabs were called rajput and poors or middle class were called jatt here we use jat in the meaning of farmer if a person is working in agriculture whether he is Mochi nai or anything is called jatt
And leather workers are mochis in past they used to make shoes so they are considered shodar and those people who are called musali are maybe descendents of those lower caste people

 

[Crusher]

And leather workers are mochis in past they used to make shoes so they are considered shodar and those people who are called musali are maybe descendents of those lower caste people

Mochi probably emerged from a mixture between artisans and chammars, strictly speaking chammars were people who are called "changar" in our language, those who used to remove leather from dead animals and then process it before selling it to Mochis which then used to make leather shoes or some other useful leather products.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Yes definatily not only recognise but let their leaders to allow to live in Pakistan just like india helping bramdad bugti.
From ground to air khalistan sud get anykind of help they need. India will be on their knees once khalistan and kashmir stand up.