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By Nick Ottens

Published: July 27, 2010Posted in: PowerTags: India, Middle East,
Pakistan is key to the American strategy in South Asia. Caught between winning the war in Afghanistan and winning India as an ally—the United States’ two primary foreign policy objectives in the region—Pakistan is a pivotal but frustrating factor that threatens to undermine both.

The Obama Administration seemed to recognize this fact when it began to regard Afghanistan and Pakistan as part of the same theater of war. The Pashtun tribes forming the backbone of the insurgency move freely between the mountainous and porous border separating the two countries, making eastern Pakistan a dangerous breeding ground for extremism. The United States have no hope of subduing this threat as long as sanctuaries for the Taliban exist on the Pakistani side of the border, supplying and training assaults on coalition forces in Afghanistan.

The Islamabad Government, since its inception, has largely left the tribes roaming along its eastern frontier to its own devices until, in the wake of the terrorist attacks against the United States on 9/11, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf agreed to cooperate with the Americans and commit soldiers and resources to fight the war against Al Qaeda and the Taliban. As Michael Scheuer points out at The Diplomat, Musharraf, a career military officer, “surely thought US political leaders and generals would react as he and his peers would have reacted; that is, by destroying the attackers. Based on this expectation,” he notes, “and under intense US pressure, Musharraf provided more aid for the US war effort than any other US ally, NATO or otherwise.”

Musharraf allowed the United States to gather intelligence on his soil and execute military strikes against suspected Taliban strongholds on Pakistani territory. “He helped destroy the Taliban regime,” according to Scheuer, “even though Islamabad couldn’t have had an Afghan regime more compatible with Pakistan’s national interests.” The general had to cope with mounting discord among his own military and intelligence establishments which had regarded the status quo as a perfect counterbalance to India’s influence in the region. Up to this very day, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency provides funding, training and sanctuary to the Taliban insurgency.

Pakistani support for America’s enemies isn’t stopping Washington from transferring hundreds of millions of dollars in “aid” to Islamabad in reward for fighting its war, if only in part. Serious efforts have been made. Musharraf sent Pakistan’s army into the Pashtun lands and throughout northern Pakistan, in Bajaur, the Swat Valley, and South Waziristan, it managed to defeat the Taliban who subsequently fled to the central and southern provinces of the Punjab, Sindh, and Balochistan. As Haider Ali Hussein Mullick wrote in Foreign Affairs earlier this year, the Pakistani army, with its officer corps predominantly Punjabi, is considered something of a foreign occupation force by many Pashtuns living near the border in the north. This has pushed Pakistan to the brink of civil war.

The army’s offensives in the region have already killed several thousands of soldiers and displaced almost half a million people. The struggle between the Pashtun tribes and Islamabad was, until 2008, largely confined to the border area but has since spread into Pakistan proper, “bringing repeated bombings, ambushes, assassinations and commando-style raids to military and intelligence facilities, as well as to major cities like Lahore, Islamabad and Karachi,” according to Scheuer. He, unsurprisingly, concludes that, “The results of Musharraf’s understandable, if potentially fatal decision are wrecking Pakistan.”

As America prepares for defeat in Afghanistan, Pakistan’s leaders know that this administration isn’t any more serious about winning the war than the last one. They can no longer afford to do Washington’s bidding but must prepare for the likelihood of a Taliban victory and possibly an autonomous “Pashtunistan” occupying the border region in the near future.

Since America’s interests demand that it increases India’s role in Afghanistan—which is its best, if not only chance at establishing a semi-democratic, centralized government in Kabul—and since Pakistan will always regard an Afghanistan allied with India a threat to its very existence, Islamabad can only start working against the United States rather than with it.

Scheuer predicts that Pakistan’s intelligence service will try to mend fences with Pashtuns on both sides of the border and compel them to undermine Hamid Karzai and his government in an effort to hurry NATO’s defeat and help the Islamists to retake power in Kabul. “This is the only long term result that meets Pakistan’s national security needs,” he believes.

The army is likely to reduce its operations in the tribal areas in an attempt to end the civil war. Some efforts may still be undertaken to convince the Americans that Pakistan is on their side but Islamabad will be careful not to alienate the Pashtuns further. “This tack also will start to ease the deep discontent in the army over being tasked to kill Muslims for US infidels.”

Should American aid finally disappear, Pakistan can turn to either Saudi Arabia, China, or both for support. The Saudis rather prefer an Islamist regime over an Afghan Government allied too closely with the West while the Chinese will jump on any opportunity to strengthen Pakistan as a counterweight to India’s rapid ascension. New Delhi may be able to persuade the Saudis otherwise as its own bilateral relation with Riyad is improving but China’s interference can only imperil an already fragile nuclear balance as Pakistan’s ties with Muslim fundamentalists will pose a constant threat to India’s security.

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Pakistan should go into Afghanistan !! Its the only way out ;)

The SNAKE will keep hissing and biting your kids , unless you go in and stomp the SNAKE's head with boots!!
 
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Typical ignorant... commenting Pakistan affairs while sitting abroad.
Neither is the map representing the real picture... perhaps towing some propaganda and hidden objectives.. yes.

One of many sudden media attacks on Pakistan military..... some in west is definately upto some dirty objective... in Pakistan.

Why a map is missing showing US administered areas?
 
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The pre-invasion afghan taliban were highly moderate and partly spoiled by Al Quaida. Mullah Omar was highly frustrated not by Pakistan but the world ignorance towards recognizing their government as legitimate one despite being able to put an end to war and poppy trade..However due to financial hardships the taliban movement died and replaced by criminal minded drug lords, terrorist and al quaida. Mullah omar himself seem to have lost all hope and gone into a "revenge" mood. It has been much better if they lowered down their pushtoon ego and handed OBL to USA in exchange of government recognition so trade and economy could start and life of ordinary afghans could improve. Pakistan tried to force them, Saudi tried and UAE tried but no avail.

USA wants Pakistan to persue talibans in Afghanistan. That would happen only at one cost..arm us to teeth to counter India.
 
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Pakistan should go into Afghanistan !! Its the only way out ;)

The SNAKE will keep hissing and biting your kids , unless you go in and stomp the SNAKE's head with boots!!

A lot of Indians have the same view about Indians going into Pakistan (same reason).. Just like them, your view is extremely misguided...
 
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Lol good question. Food for thought for those indians who think coming to Pakistan is a walk in the park.
 
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The Pashtun tribes forming the backbone of the insurgency move freely between the mountainous and porous border separating the two countries

BS! there no "tribes" moving between the borders - it isn't eye-rak, Dufus!

Since America’s interests demand that it increases India’s role in Afghanistan—which is its best, if not only chance at establishing a semi-democratic, centralized government in Kabul


What an incredible statement from a so call informed analyst -- So it's in US and India's interest to have a centralized government in Afghanistan? Why?

No seriously, Why? Anybody familiar with Afghan history here? What kind of a state has Afghanistan been throughout it's history?

India itself is a "federal" system isn't it?

This is what I have been pointing to when I say US policy is hostage to "fanatics" - individuals who have not even the most basic understanding of Afghanistan and events and what drives them.

and finally:

Should American aid finally disappear

Take you ball and go play in Israel -- will that suit you? Are there really millions of Indians lining up to die for fanatics in the beltway?? If yes, then good luck and God speed to them.
 
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The pre-invasion afghan taliban were highly moderate and partly spoiled by Al Quaida. Mullah Omar was highly frustrated not by Pakistan but the world ignorance towards recognizing their government as legitimate one despite being able to put an end to war and poppy trade..However due to financial hardships the taliban movement died and replaced by criminal minded drug lords, terrorist and al quaida. Mullah omar himself seem to have lost all hope and gone into a "revenge" mood. It has been much better if they lowered down their pushtoon ego and handed OBL to USA in exchange of government recognition so trade and economy could start and life of ordinary afghans could improve. Pakistan tried to force them, Saudi tried and UAE tried but no avail.

USA wants Pakistan to persue talibans in Afghanistan. That would happen only at one cost..arm us to teeth to counter India.

Oh come on. You wont be able to fool anyone with-the-Taliban-were actually-good-people crap. Stop justifying ISI's support to a medieval and extremist organization.
 
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By Nick Ottens

Should American aid finally disappear, Pakistan can turn to either Saudi Arabia, China, or both for support. The Saudis rather prefer an Islamist regime over an Afghan Government allied too closely with the West while the Chinese will jump on any opportunity to strengthen Pakistan as a counterweight to India’s rapid ascension. New Delhi may be able to persuade the Saudis otherwise as its own bilateral relation with Riyad is improving but China’s interference can only imperil an already fragile nuclear balance as Pakistan’s ties with Muslim fundamentalists will pose a constant threat to India’s security.

I am convinced that even us rookies from India and Pakistan on this Forum know more about the conflict in Afghanistan than 'experts' like this author do. The quoted paragraph is so simplistic.
So Saudi Arabia will prefer an Islamic Taliban after 9/11? I don't see Saudis preferring their own Islamic AND Arab Hamas much.
So China is going to step in eagerly should Uncle leaves? If China wanted to then they can step in NOW.
And New Delhi persuading Saudis to make Pakistan behave on an issue of deep strategic importance to Pakistan?

These 'experts' don't know much about Kashmir, or Afghanistan, or Iran or Iraq or India more than what the people from those regions who, even if expats, try to closely follow events. These 'experts' read the NYTimes or a couple of other sources and then come out impressing those who are even more ignorant about distant lands.

Now, I know Schuer is a big name but that is mostly because of his very early expression of views about the Iraq war and views not so charitable to Israel. Back in 2003/4 there were not many contrary voices which made to the limelight. But even Schuer is no expert.

I bet if India and Pakistan manage to make peace in Kashmir then all this hoopla about Pakistani military in bed with 'extremist Islamists' of Afghanistan will die down. No analysis can be complete without taking the whole region into account.
 
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I am convinced that even us rookies from India and Pakistan on this Forum know more about the conflict in Afghanistan than 'experts' like this author do...
You aren't the only one. Scheuer has been terminated both from government and from private think-tanks because, it appears, he can't substantiate his positions or (I'm guessing here) activities.


I bet if India and Pakistan manage to make peace in Kashmir then all this hoopla about Pakistani military in bed with 'extremist Islamists' of Afghanistan will die down.
What if neither Pakistan nor India are interested in making such a peace? Indians are satisfied to occupy its current chunk of Kashmir, and Pakistanis appear happy to periodically invade India with "stateless actors" out to commit murder and mayhem, and have an excuse to milk the United States for $$$$, much of which disappears in a fog of corruption.
 
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What if neither Pakistan nor India are interested in making such a peace? Indians are satisfied to occupy its current chunk of Kashmir, and Pakistanis appear happy to periodically invade India with "stateless actors" out to commit murder and mayhem, and have an excuse to milk the United States for $$$$, much of which disappears in a fog of corruption.

Come on, you should know better than that. The WOT has been a great loss to Pakistan's economy and there are many members here who can give you better data on that.

About Kashmir, yes, Pakistan has been injecting militants into Kashmir but that has been greatly reduced for a years now. You need to see what is happening in the Kashmir Valley these very days to understand that there is strong local resistance to Indian rule in at least some parts of Kashmir.
 
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Come on, you should know better than that. The WOT has been a great loss to Pakistan's economy -
I wasn't referring to Pakistan's economy, but the number of "Mr. Ten Percents" Pakistan has.

About Kashmir, yes, Pakistan has been injecting militants into Kashmir but that has been greatly reduced -
Because the ISI has been training terrorists to attack India proper, as in the 11/08 Mumbai attacks.
 
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You aren't the only one. Scheuer has been terminated both from government and from private think-tanks because, it appears, he can't substantiate his positions or (I'm guessing here) activities.


What if neither Pakistan nor India are interested in making such a peace? Indians are satisfied to occupy its current chunk of Kashmir, and Pakistanis appear happy to periodically invade India with "stateless actors" out to commit murder and mayhem, and have an excuse to milk the United States for $$$$, much of which disappears in a fog of corruption.

your bloody 1.5 billion a year is nothing compared to the thousends of live given by ordinary pakistanis.and soldiers.
there would have been no need to create these jihadis if u did not came to us and asked for help to defeat the soviets.
 
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