Pakistan Researching Nuclear Fusion.

[Hanfaer]

Great post and excellent to views

 

[Mahmood Gaznavi]

Pakistan needs to research on the concept of intercepting missiles by different non conventional, cheaper and effective means.

 

[faaiq Sheikh]

Pakistan stays out of nuclear fusion project
ISLAMABAD:

Pakistan’s ambition for securing membership to the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor (ITER) group – one of the most ambitious energy projects in the world – are being hindered by shortage of both funds and capable researchers, experts told The Express Tribune on Wednesday.
For the last 13 years, Pakistan has persistently been struggling to become a member of this multinational research group.
Talking to The Express Tribune a senior official of the National Centre for Physics (NCP), who wished not to be named, said that Pakistan has been trying to become an ITER member since 2003, but is still unable to secure a place in the group mainly because of shortage of funds and insufficient number of researchers in the field of plasma physics.


“Currently, Pakistan has around 200 plasma physics researchers. However, there is a need to double this number,” the official said.


The idea behind ITER project is to come up with a new environment-friendly nuclear reactor for producing unlimited supply of safe, economical and sustainable electricity using atomic fusion.


India, Japan, South Korea, China, Russia, the European Union and the United States are ITER’s active members.
“The best part of ITER project is that it would neither have an impact on human health, nor would it pollute the environment both in short- and long-term,” said the official.


If Pakistan becomes an ITER member, its scientists and researchers would be able to exchange ideas and work with international professionals, ultimately broadening their exposure, said the official.


Moreover, he said, it would also create employment opportunities for people from diverse fields such as engineering among others.


“Unfortunately, it is a fact that our government is not investing much on the science and technology sector which is impeding progress. Though the country is blessed with a number of professionals and talented students in this field, financial constraints is one of the major hurdles, blocking their scope of work,” he said.

 

[PatriotNaz]

Pakistan needs to research on the concept of intercepting missiles by different non conventional, cheaper and effective means.

I agree, the US have invested in lasers to take down missiles. The system accurately targets the chipboards on the missiles destabling any threat. I think this is very cost effective and should work on any type of unfriendly missile.

Pakistan stays out of nuclear fusion project
ISLAMABAD:

Pakistan’s ambition for securing membership to the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor (ITER) group – one of the most ambitious energy projects in the world – are being hindered by shortage of both funds and capable researchers, experts told The Express Tribune on Wednesday.
For the last 13 years, Pakistan has persistently been struggling to become a member of this multinational research group.
Talking to The Express Tribune a senior official of the National Centre for Physics (NCP), who wished not to be named, said that Pakistan has been trying to become an ITER member since 2003, but is still unable to secure a place in the group mainly because of shortage of funds and insufficient number of researchers in the field of plasma physics.


“Currently, Pakistan has around 200 plasma physics researchers. However, there is a need to double this number,” the official said.


The idea behind ITER project is to come up with a new environment-friendly nuclear reactor for producing unlimited supply of safe, economical and sustainable electricity using atomic fusion.


India, Japan, South Korea, China, Russia, the European Union and the United States are ITER’s active members.
“The best part of ITER project is that it would neither have an impact on human health, nor would it pollute the environment both in short- and long-term,” said the official.


If Pakistan becomes an ITER member, its scientists and researchers would be able to exchange ideas and work with international professionals, ultimately broadening their exposure, said the official.


Moreover, he said, it would also create employment opportunities for people from diverse fields such as engineering among others.


“Unfortunately, it is a fact that our government is not investing much on the science and technology sector which is impeding progress. Though the country is blessed with a number of professionals and talented students in this field, financial constraints is one of the major hurdles, blocking their scope of work,” he said.

Yes its a shame but it shows how important the economy of a nation is to help improve infrastructure, military and research and development.

 

[faaiq Sheikh]

Development of infrastructure is prime means to future !

 

[xyxmt]

It will take at least several more decades of expensive research before a fusion reactor is technically and commercially feasible as a power source.

and that is the purpose of this program, a scientific research program

 

[EpiiC]

How long until Pakistan can builds its own nuclear plants for energy?

 

[Skywalker]

For ganjas the only priority is metro buses and motorways so that they can travel freely, unfortunately by investing into education and research they won't be able to make any money out of it.

 

[zzken]

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[chanrasjid]

Pakistan stays out of nuclear fusion project
ISLAMABAD:

Pakistan’s ambition for securing membership to the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor (ITER) group – one of the most ambitious energy projects in the world – are being hindered by shortage of both funds and capable researchers, experts told The Express Tribune on Wednesday.
For the last 13 years, Pakistan has persistently been struggling to become a member of this multinational research group.
Talking to The Express Tribune a senior official of the National Centre for Physics (NCP), who wished not to be named, said that Pakistan has been trying to become an ITER member since 2003, but is still unable to secure a place in the group mainly because of shortage of funds and insufficient number of researchers in the field of plasma physics.


“Currently, Pakistan has around 200 plasma physics researchers. However, there is a need to double this number,” the official said.


The idea behind ITER project is to come up with a new environment-friendly nuclear reactor for producing unlimited supply of safe, economical and sustainable electricity using atomic fusion.


India, Japan, South Korea, China, Russia, the European Union and the United States are ITER’s active members.
“The best part of ITER project is that it would neither have an impact on human health, nor would it pollute the environment both in short- and long-term,” said the official.


If Pakistan becomes an ITER member, its scientists and researchers would be able to exchange ideas and work with international professionals, ultimately broadening their exposure, said the official.


Moreover, he said, it would also create employment opportunities for people from diverse fields such as engineering among others.


“Unfortunately, it is a fact that our government is not investing much on the science and technology sector which is impeding progress. Though the country is blessed with a number of professionals and talented students in this field, financial constraints is one of the major hurdles, blocking their scope of work,” he said.

I will say that no way can the present trend in fusion research bear fruit - they will all fail!

The reason is simple. It is like stock trading; if you have acquired dump shares, there is only one way to go - cut loss! And go elsewhere! The present direction of high temperature fusion based on the tokamak model has been tried for decades - it fails. Building things bigger will not help when you got your physics wrong in the first place. So the present international ITER effort will be another waste of our precious resources (the world's resources are now needed critically in many areas).

As an example, I have just started a thread in World Affairs :
Open letter: The failure of Einstein's E=mc².
Let's assume special relativity is really invalid. Then we can see the reason why special relativity has not given us a single piece of new practical technology - special relativity, since 1905, has not contributed to one single new technological innovation.

Coming to fusion research, if the present modern nuclear physics is not up-to-par or is way wrong, there is no way you can have commercial fusion in "... years time". If Isaac Newton had not given us his Newtonian mechanics, we could never, never have landed on the moon. It is the same with nuclear fusion; if we still cling on the fictitious relativistic mechanics, the fictitious Standard Model of particle physics, etc, we could only have a fictitious future in commercial fusion energy in "fictitious years time".

What we need now is an Isaac Newton of the 21st Century to give us new physics, not fictitious tales about events happening at the edge of the universe.

Chan Rasjid,
Singapore.

 

[CriticalThought]

I will say that no way can the present trend in fusion research bear fruit - they will all fail!

The reason is simple. It is like stock trading; if you have acquired dump shares, there is only one way to go - cut loss! And go elsewhere! The present direction of high temperature fusion based on the tokamak model has been tried for decades - it fails. Building things bigger will not help when you got your physics wrong in the first place. So the present international ITER effort will be another waste of our precious resources (the world's resources are now needed critically in many areas).

As an example, I have just started a thread in World Affairs :
Open letter: The failure of Einstein's E=mc².
Let's assume special relativity is really invalid. Then we can see the reason why special relativity has not given us a single piece of new practical technology - special relativity, since 1905, has not contributed to one single new technological innovation.

Coming to fusion research, if the present modern nuclear physics is not up-to-par or is way wrong, there is no way you can have commercial fusion in "... years time". If Isaac Newton had not given us his Newtonian mechanics, we could never, never have landed on the moon. It is the same with nuclear fusion; if we still cling on the fictitious relativistic mechanics, the fictitious Standard Model of particle physics, etc, we could only have a fictitious future in commercial fusion energy in "fictitious years time".

What we need now is an Isaac Newton of the 21st Century to give us new physics, not fictitious tales about events happening at the edge of the universe.

Chan Rasjid,
Singapore.

Special relativity manifests itself in particle accelerators as electrons speed up.

It is needed to keep atomic clocks in satellites accurate.

It has also given us relativistic quantum mechanics and relativistic quantum field theory which has applications in understanding elementary part and condensed matter physics.

 

[chanrasjid]

Special relativity manifests itself in particle accelerators as electrons speed up.

It is needed to keep atomic clocks in satellites accurate.

It has also given us relativistic quantum mechanics and relativistic quantum field theory which has applications in understanding elementary part and condensed matter physics.

I dismiss special relativity unequivocally and, of course, I have read almost all the known arguments.
1) that there are things call "particle accelerators" has nothing at all to do with the validity of special relativity theory. If given a blueprint about the atomic bombs, and a group of engineers/technicians with the tools - but who know nothing about nuclear physics - I could build a bomb that could flatten Islamabad.
2) that GPS needs some "relativistic" corrections in order for it to work. I would be beating a dead horse if I were to continue this debate (I could provide links to authors who say otherwise). Please know that five nations have global positioning systems: US, Europe, India, China, Russia. No one will tell exactly how they work as it has great military significance. So have you heard the Indian or Chinese counterparts baring all in their blueprints? The pollution from internet rumors is now worst than the air pollution in China.
3) relativistic quantum mechanics, relativistic quantum field theory,etc are theories just as special relativity, general relativity are mere theories.

Please let me know of one single technological innovation that special relativity has given us since 1905.

Chan Rasjid,
Singapore.

 

[Path-Finder]

Can this thread be discarded and replaced with MSR?

@Horus