Pakistan Reports Detaining Top Al Qaeda Members Younis Al Mauritani.

[muse]

Why the fu*k are all of these "Al-Libi's, Al-Misri's, Al-Mauritani's, Al-Turkistanis" in Pakistan? We need some serious pest control. These foreigners are the reason why all this Bullsh!t mess started in this region.

Excellent question - seems no answers, especially none from the so called Defenders -- How did all these end up in Pakistan and why is it that it takes US dollars to get these "defenders" to protect Pakistan from these Libi, Mauritani, TUrkestani and Misri?

Don't get wrong - it's good that they are being arrested now - how is it that all these want to be in Pakistan? What does Pakistan afford them that other places do not?? Could it be an enabling environment??

 

[Andross]

Don't forget my fave of them all Mr Al-hind a hindu who converted and was one of the top ranking members in UK

These names are just like code names for these people.

 

[VCheng]

Excellent question - seems no answers, especially none from the so called Defenders -- How did all these end up in Pakistan and why is it that it takes US dollars to get these "defenders" to protect Pakistan from these Libi, Mauritani, TUrkestani and Misri?

Don't get wrong - it's good that they are being arrested now - how is it that all these want to be in Pakistan? What does Pakistan afford them that other places do not?? Could it be an enabling environment??

You said it!

 

[muse]

You said it!

Now Watch the reaction of the self designated - he'll not bother with the question but with who asked it and won't bother with the $$$ bit either, but "patria" -- presumably Sodie $$$ can not compete with "patria" but US $$$, grudgingly, can

 

[VCheng]

Now Watch the reaction of the self designated - he'll not bother with the question but with who asked it and won't bother with the $$$ bit either, but "patria" -- presumably Sodie $$$ can not compete with "patria" but US $$$, grudgingly, can

Watching.....

 

[American Pakistani]

Pakistan Army & ISI must pressure the govt to build a huge, thick wall on Afghan border. Also construct watch towers & bunkers with connection to each other & nearby military base via underground. This will result in total control of those lawless border areas & will stop terrorist activity. It will have short term & long term benifits for Pakistan.

 

[DelhiDareDevil]

Pakistan Army & ISI must pressure the govt to build a huge, thick wall on Afghan border. Also construct watch towers & bunkers with connection to each other & nearby military base via underground. This will result in total control of those lawless border areas & will stop terrorist activity. It will have short term & long term benifits for Pakistan.

This is not World of Warcraft, its a expensive procedure to do everything you want, look at India, its a trillion dollar plus economy and still cant fence the whole border for example.

 

[American Pakistani]

This is not World of Warcraft, its a expensive procedure to do everything you want, look at India, its a trillion dollar plus economy and still cant fence the whole border for example.

Pakistan had lost 68billion $ from it's own pocket directly or indirectly. I'm pretty sure this wall won't cost Pakistan more than 68-100million $, but could cost much for corrupt polititions. Hope you understand what i mean.

 

[Desert Fox]

Pakistan Army & ISI must pressure the govt to build a huge, thick wall on Afghan border. Also construct watch towers & bunkers with connection to each other & nearby military base via underground. This will result in total control of those lawless border areas & will stop terrorist activity. It will have short term & long term benifits for Pakistan.

Sorry but i find the bolded part amusing, don't you think your asking for too much?

It took india more than 3 billion dollars and a few years to completely fence the Indo-Bangladesh border, and this was fencing, imagine how costly it would be to build a "huge, thick wall" with "watch towers & bunkers with connection to each other & nearby military base via underground", i think your asking for too much from Pakistan, its not easy walling a border like Pak-Afghan border let alone fencing it, add to that the difficult mountainous terrain of that region and the Tribal's who have families and land on either side of the border.

 

[Donatello]

Execute them.......no trial no jury........we have seen countless terrorists getting caught but then the courts issuing their release orders....

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Could it be an enabling environment??

Absolutely - enabled by poor governance and weak and corrupt civilian institutions such as law enforcement, prosecution and the judiciary ...

Now when you can agree on actually talking about reforming those, we can agree that you have a clue about bringing about change in Pakistan, rather than ranting against your imagined bogeymen of the 'Agencies and the Arabi'.

Hope that answered both your question, as well as 'who' asked the question ...

 

[muse]

Interesting that the ideology that has created the enabling environment gets no mention - the river that flows through Egypt. After all, when the baby and the bath water are indistinguishable, one can understand the need to look at other than the obvious answers.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Interesting that the ideology that has created the enabling environment gets no mention - the river that flows through Egypt. After all, when the baby and the bath water are indistinguishable, one can understand the need to look at other than the obvious answers.

The 'ideology' that created this 'enabling environment' did so in because of the absence of governance, effective and independent law enforcement agencies and judiciary.

It is Pakistan's current laws that need IMPLEMENTATION, in order to stop the rot - change in those laws to accelerate the change in direction of the nation can only come when those basic structural issues are fixed.

Two million people in Sindh affected by the floods, yet again, after millions were affected by floods last year, and you expect these suffering and abandoned souls to worry about 'Arabization and the influence of the Army'?

And then it is the 'Arab sponsored charities', the JuD and others, and the Army, who are the most visible in providing relief supplies, running camps and rehabilitation efforts.

So these millions of Pakistanis should oppose the 'Arabs and Army' why exactly?

 

[muse]

The 'ideology' that created this 'enabling environment' did so in because of the absence of governance, effective and independent law enforcement agencies and judiciary.

That's so much better - at least you are now acknowledging that the "ideology" in question did create this enabling environment. And of course this "ideology" had the support of the state, in particular, the army.

Now the question arises why and how it is that the Sodie ideology and monies were used to operationalize the ideology and US monies to take the ideology down. The two constants, beside the ideology, it seems are money and the army.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Pakistani forces capture senior al Qaeda leader Younis al Mauritania in Quetta

By BILL ROGGIOSeptember 5, 2011

The Pakistani military claimed it captured Younis al Mauritania, a senior al Qaeda leader suspected of directing attacks against the US, Europe, and Australia, along with two associates during a raid in the southwestern city of Quetta.

The Pakistani Army announced today that al Mauritania and "two other senior Al Qaeda operatives, Abdul Ghaffar Al Shami (Bachar Chama) and Messara Al Shami (Mujahid Amino)" were captured in a joint raid carried out by the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), and the Frontier Corps Balochistan. The arrests were "conducted with technical assistance of United States Intelligence Agencies," the Pakistani military's press release stated. The announcement included a grainy file photograph of al Mauritania but did not mention the date of the raid.

Al Mauritania "was tasked personally by Osama Bin Laden to focus on hitting targets of economical importance in United States of America, Europe, and Australia," according to the Pakistani military's announcement.

"He was planning to target United States economic interests including gas/oil pipelines, power generating dams, and strike ships/oil tankers through explosive laden speed boats in International waters," the press release continued.

US intelligence officials have not confirmed the Pakistani claims that al Mauritania and the two other operatives are in custody.

Last year al Mauritania, who was previously an unknown figure, jumped into the spotlight after he was identified as directing a plot by al Qaeda to attack multiple targets in Europe in a Mumbai-like terror assault. Several news reports incorrectly claimed that he was al Qaeda's so-called "number 3," or third in command. The number 3 designation is often assigned by Western officials and media to al Qaeda's suspected operations chief. [See LWJ report, Al Qaeda's #3 misidentified again, for more information.]

But in fact, US intelligence officials told The Long War Journal last year that al Mauritania is a senior member of al Qaeda's external operations council, the division that is tasked with hitting the US, Europe, and allied nations. Al Mauritania, Adnan el Shukrijuma, and Ilyas Kashmiri are believed to be the senior-most members of the external operations council. Kashmiri is rumored to have been killed in a Predator strike in early June, but the report has never been confirmed.

The Pakistani military has described al Mauritania's "critical arrest" as "yet another fatal blow [that] has been delivered to al Qaeda." Similarly, top US intelligence officials have claimed that al Qaeda has been dealt near-death blows over the past several months. Osama bin Laden was killed in a US raid in Abbottabad, Pakistan, on May 2. And US officials believe that both Atiyah Abd al Rahman, a top al Qaeda leader, and Kashmiri were killed in Predator drone strikes in June and late August, respectively. But Atiyah, who like Kashmiri has been reported killed in the past only to resurface, has not been confirmed dead.


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