Pakistan ‘received $25.91b’ from US since 9/11

[illusion8]

The US gets most of the blame.
I don't care how people try to spin this collective responsibility rubbish.

They came to Afghanistan in 2001 and said... 'Hey, that was easy... only 40 days of combat ops and we've defeated the taliban'. Back then they didn't ask for our help and we told them that we would not involve ourselves in their air campaign over Afghansitan or in aiding the Northern alliance take power. by doing so, they involved themselves in an ethnic war that has been raging since the early 90's. By conducting brutal bombings of Pushtun majority areas, they alienated that population and also by supporting the NA. Also, then the NA were made ministers of Kabul, former head of the NA was made defence secretary, these war criminals who the Pashtun people despised were made kings of Kabul. All while, remember the taliban had nothing to do with 9/11 or AQ. So the taliban rose again, and THAT my friend is not our war to begin with.

Only when 2003/4 and renewed insurgency came knockin'. They forced us to align ourselves with them, quote... 'bombing Pakistan back to the stone age'.

I agree, a lot of it is our own fault.
But the US is still the biggest player in our region, every move of theirs echoes ten times in Pakistan.

So you are absolving what Pakistan did with Afghanistan using the Taliban post American and Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan and Pakistan. That region became a staging ground for all militants of the world under the Taliban. Effective stoppage was needed but the area was left to fall into anarchy, who was responsible for that happening is anybody's guess. Saying that the US has to pay for everything is kind of absurd where a major portion of the blame rests with both.

 

[Bobby]

Military operations acquisitions, a few hundred million dollars for WoT.
Troop deployment year on year for about 6 years that costs billions.
FATA reconstruction programmes cost 2 billion dollars.
Creation/reparation of about 400km of roads.
A few million per year on compensating the victims of terror.
Now take Malakand and Swat operation of 2009, that operation alone cost billions of dollars, the op itself cost in millions, the damage done by the taliban rule and the large scale ground offensive meant that billions of dollars of damage had been done, most of which is yet to be repaired. And since 2008/2009 we've had regular operations in FATA and the rest of KPK.
Then also, terrorism has decayed economic growth considerably that could easily be $4-5 billion we loose per year in potential growth.
Also, investment nosedived since our dedication to this war, from 22.5% in FY2006 to 13.4% in FY2010.
And you know that investment triggers a knock on effect of growth and economic activity. Such a drastic decrease is billions of dollars lost year on year on year.

you will have to pay for all your own created issue with bad intention to destroy your neiborhood ....US will not pay for that....

 

[Hyperion]

That's a very very, very conservative figure. We lost much much more. The said figure of USD25B can't even cover the cost of trauma to a nation the size of Pakistan. Salay Amreeki and their "we can do it" attitude.

We lost almost $100 billion in this war just to get $25 billion.

Btw USD25 Billion is a huge lie as well, they forgot to mention the "consultancy" fee given to their shell consulting firms. That makes up 55% of the amount. US knows all this crap very well.

 

[HRK]

Good you have not forgotten your history

loot or beg... $100 B still very big number

history repeat itself........

 

[Jungibaaz]

So you are absolving what Pakistan did with Afghanistan using the Taliban post American and Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan and Pakistan. That region became a staging ground for all militants of the world under the Taliban. Effective stoppage was needed but the area was left to fall into anarchy, who was responsible for that happening is anybody's guess. Saying that the US has to pay for everything is kind of absurd where a major portion of the blame rests with both.

My good friend, too many of you folks. Show up here with what you regard as complete knowledge of these affairs.
I'm sorry to say, that is not the case. We did not create the taliban, nor did the taliban exist during the 80's.
Ask yourself (i'm sure you wont know the answer) or google... who was in charge of Kabul before the taliban. How and when was the taliban created. Pakistan did support the taliban. But to blame Pakistan in the way you are.

You are blaming us for the rise of extremism and also causing civil war.
That is entirely incorrect. Please do properly research that dark period in Afghan history.
You can begin by researching what became of Afghanistan after the collapse of the soviet propped DRA and then research the taliban.

you will have to pay for all your own created issue with bad intention to destroy your neiborhood ....US will not pay for that....

And here we go with that load of crap....

That's a very very, very conservative figure. We lost much much more. The said figure of USD25B can't even cover the cost of trauma to a nation the size of Pakistan. Salay Amreeki and their "we can do it" attitude.

We lost more? What have I missed?
Gains we could have made from investment lost?

 

[Hyperion]

Opportunity cost of peace, that covers all what you can think of, plus they've way way undervalued losses to our infrastructure.. I can go on and on.....

We lost more? What have I missed?
Gains we could have made from investment lost?

 

[RescueRanger]

Could you please explain what you are getting at with those questions, Sir?

anpf was first trained at npa Islamabad. Batches 1 ad 2 under us state dept program to foster cooperation. The program under aegis of atap would fund Pakistan to provide training to officers of anpf. Post batch 2 and removal of mush the contract was cancelled and sub contracted to triple canopy llc. Who lost out? Who gained? US money earmarked for an important nation building project got recycled into the US economy since triple canopy is a US corporation.

Now if you look beyond this and the chemonics intervention in Pakistan, who is benefiting? The training of anpf is still ineffective because the trainers from tc and other parties don't speak Dari and hire Dari staff, guess where the sensitive data goes? Lost in translation....!

So all those saying Pakistan pocketed millions, sorry but you don't even know the half of it.

 

[Skies]

Nothing comes free, Pk must have gave something to US, so USA has poured money

 

[HRK]

Complete detail of U.S. Aid and Military Reimbursements to Pakistan

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/pakaid.pdf

 

[Pandora]

moron!! ..sorry if my comment shown you some bitter reality....

you need to have $100 billion to loose.....$5 billion year after year for 20 year...wow

Talk to us when you are fighting a war against the likes of TTP. Otherwise stop thinking or you might get a headache.

 

[Pandora]

That's a very very, very conservative figure. We lost much much more. The said figure of USD25B can't even cover the cost of trauma to a nation the size of Pakistan. Salay Amreeki and their "we can do it" attitude.



Btw USD25 Billion is a huge lie as well, they forgot to mention the "consultancy" fee given to their shell consulting firms. That makes up 55% of the amount. US knows all this crap very well

Exactly people actually don't know how much we have lost here. Our road infrastructure is ruined and need billions of dollar just to fix that damage. We cant even begin to imagine Amount of money wasted just to give americans safe passage. 25 billion also includes taxes they had to pay.

 

[haviZsultan]

And we lost a total of $80 billion in the war against terror in terms of damages. Anyone can do the maths.

We have suffered a lot because of the barbaric militants but no one understands our sacrifice.

 

[Bobby]

history repeat itself........

But you will not change.....

 

[HRK]

But you will not change.....

try to live with it buddy.........

 

[Bobby]

try to live with it buddy.........

You have to live with it not me...I am not crying for $100 billions