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Pakistan Rail sticks with Dong Fang
By Syed Fazl-e-Haider Dec 22 2009

QUETTA, Pakistan - China's Dong Fang Electric Corp, which was previously involved in a deal, considered disastrous, to supply Pakistan Railways with locomotives, has won a new contract to provide engines to the same customer, this over the objections of General Electric of the United States.

China's EXIM Bank will provide credit amounting to US$110 million for the purchase of 75 locomotives to be supplied by Dong Fang and $134 million for 205 coaches from China Machinery Import and Export Corporation (CMC). General Electric had been a leading contender for the locomotives contract.

In 2001, Dong Fang supplied 69 substandard locomotives to Pakistan Railways in a sale that was viewed as a disaster for the country's railways system, with the machines' weight proving excessive for the existing rail network, and cracks in engines and consistent maintenance requirements proving a heavy burden for the buyer.

Chinese locomotives are not used elsewhere in the world due to their inefficient energy consumption and high maintenance costs and critics claim corruption in Pakistan Railways led to the latest contract for 75 locomotives. Last year, Pakistan had refused to finalize the locomotive deal. Analysts say the engines will be cheaper only at the time of purchase, but their lifetime cost will be much higher than those of international quality.

Under the loan agreements, Pakistan Railways will purchase 75 locomotives from Dong Fang and 205 coaches from CMC, according to Associated Press of Pakistan. The two loan agreements were signed with EXIM Bank in Beijing, during a visit by a Pakistani delegation led by Jehangir Aziz of Pakistan Railways.

State-owned Pakistan Railways provides an important mode of transportation in the farthest corners of the country. It has been a great integrating force and forms the lifeline of the country by catering to its needs for large-scale movement of people. Plagued by corruption, it faces a loss of 28 billion rupees (US$333 million) this financial year, up from 23 billion rupees a year earlier.

Critics say that the rules of the business and the Pakistan Procurement Regulatory Authority were overlooked while awarding the contract to Dong Fang in July 2008, which won the deal as the lowest bidder in the international tender.

The oversight technical committee had rejected Dong Fang's technical proposals three times in the past, but the committee's membership was changed after appointment of a new railways secretary, who secured approval of both technical and financial proposals involved in the purchase.

General Electric had reportedly offered $227 million for the contract as against the Chinese offer of $107 million. American engineers had asked the government to reconsider Pakistan Railways' contract with Dong Fang, with some local media reports claiming that the United States had been pressurizing Pakistan Railways to cancel the deal and award it to the US company.

China has become increasingly involved in the development and modernization of cash-starved Pakistan Railways over the past five years.

In 2001, Pakistan Railways signed a $91.9 million agreement with CMC to buy 175 high-speed passenger coaches. The project was funded by China's EXIM Bank on supplier credit basis.

Pakistan Railways and Dong Fang have also signed an agreement to establish a 750-kilometer rail link between Havelian and Khunjerab, in the country's far north, taking in the 4,730-meter-high Khunjerab crossing over Mansehra district and the Karakoram Highway in Pakistan's northern areas, now called Gilgit-Baltistan.

The Chinese will lay about 350km of track within their own territory from Kashgar to the Khunjerab Pass, linking Pakistan with China's rail network. Havelian is already linked with the rest of Pakistan's rail network, which in turn is intended to be tied more closely with Afghanistan and Central Asia.

Analysts believe that the widening network with Pakistan and its neighbors will serve Chinese interests in the region, particularly as it is a multi-billion dollar stakeholder in Pakistan's Saindak copper extraction project and Afghanistan's Aynak copper mine.

China is also involved in building a railway from Gwadar, in Pakistan's southern Balochistan province, to Dalbandin, which links to the north with Rawalpindi. By extending its East-West Railway from the Chinese border city of Kashi to Peshawar in Pakistan's northwest, Beijing will eventually be able to send cargo to and from Gwadar, which is well-placed as a terminus for goods and fuel from the Middle East, along the shortest route, from the southern port city of Karachi to Peshawar.
Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and Pakistan
 
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Pakistan could have bought this from India so it would have created a new chapter in our relations. Why are they still sticking with it even after finding out to be substandard.
 
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Sorry about the rest of the article dosn't pop out, i fixed it already.
 
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Pakistan could have bought this from India so it would have created a new chapter in our relations.

hahaha:D nice joke:tup:
Why are they still sticking with it even after finding out to be substandard.

two reasons possibly:
1> A chance for the officialy proved currupt government to get some more kick backs and further drown the nation.
2> The chinese companies are improving and growing day by day, comming up with better solutions and effective costs e.g, chinese selling railways items to uncle sam, which is growing world's confidence in china.





:china::pakistan::china::pakistan:

adios
 
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The involvement (and therefore influence on the contract) of Dong Fang in constructing railway lines to the North of Pakistan (and in Baluchistan) cannot be ruled out as a reason for awarding them the contract.

In this climate of insecurity and terrorism, very few foreign firms might have been interested in engaging in those projects, and Dong Gang's willingness may have been in exchange for the locomotive contract.

In addition, it is also possible that the defects that marred the original locomotives have been rectified in the latest engines.

On issuing any contracts to India - as soon as we get moving on the composite dialog and start resolving disputes and normalizing relations, IMO.
 
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errr.... well i hope their at least up to standard this time
 
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Pakistan could have bought this from India so it would have created a new chapter in our relations. Why are they still sticking with it even after finding out to be substandard.

Good Idea, India railway system is much better then Pakistan. Even Sampark Kranti is better then Pakistani new Chinese Train. I guess Lalu Parsaad made some positive changes to railway systems.

I like Pakistan to purchase railway tech from South Korean or Spain.
 
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Good Idea, India railway system is much better then Pakistan. Even Sampark Kranti is better then Pakistani new Chinese Train. I guess Lalu Parsaad made some positive changes to railway systems.

I like Pakistan to purchase railway tech from South Korean or Spain.

I think you are not familiar with the rail in China, please see the following link:
High Speed Rail in China
 
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Pakistan Rail sticks with Dong Fang
By Syed Fazl-e-Haider Dec 22 2009

QUETTA, Pakistan - China's Dong Fang Electric Corp, which was previously involved in a deal, considered disastrous, to supply Pakistan Railways with locomotives, has won a new contract to provide engines to the same customer, this over the objections of General Electric of the United States.

China's EXIM Bank will provide credit amounting to US$110 million for the purchase of 75 locomotives to be supplied by Dong Fang and $134 million for 205 coaches from China Machinery Import and Export Corporation (CMC). General Electric had been a leading contender for the locomotives contract.

In 2001, Dong Fang supplied 69 substandard locomotives to Pakistan Railways in a sale that was viewed as a disaster for the country's railways system, with the machines' weight proving excessive for the existing rail network, and cracks in engines and consistent maintenance requirements proving a heavy burden for the buyer.

Chinese locomotives are not used elsewhere in the world due to their inefficient energy consumption and high maintenance costs and critics claim corruption in Pakistan Railways led to the latest contract for 75 locomotives. Last year, Pakistan had refused to finalize the locomotive deal. Analysts say the engines will be cheaper only at the time of purchase, but their lifetime cost will be much higher than those of international quality.

Under the loan agreements, Pakistan Railways will purchase 75 locomotives from Dong Fang and 205 coaches from CMC, according to Associated Press of Pakistan. The two loan agreements were signed with EXIM Bank in Beijing, during a visit by a Pakistani delegation led by Jehangir Aziz of Pakistan Railways.

State-owned Pakistan Railways provides an important mode of transportation in the farthest corners of the country. It has been a great integrating force and forms the lifeline of the country by catering to its needs for large-scale movement of people. Plagued by corruption, it faces a loss of 28 billion rupees (US$333 million) this financial year, up from 23 billion rupees a year earlier.

Critics say that the rules of the business and the Pakistan Procurement Regulatory Authority were overlooked while awarding the contract to Dong Fang in July 2008, which won the deal as the lowest bidder in the international tender.

The oversight technical committee had rejected Dong Fang's technical proposals three times in the past, but the committee's membership was changed after appointment of a new railways secretary, who secured approval of both technical and financial proposals involved in the purchase.

General Electric had reportedly offered $227 million for the contract as against the Chinese offer of $107 million. American engineers had asked the government to reconsider Pakistan Railways' contract with Dong Fang, with some local media reports claiming that the United States had been pressurizing Pakistan Railways to cancel the deal and award it to the US company.

China has become increasingly involved in the development and modernization of cash-starved Pakistan Railways over the past five years.

In 2001, Pakistan Railways signed a $91.9 million agreement with CMC to buy 175 high-speed passenger coaches. The project was funded by China's EXIM Bank on supplier credit basis.

Pakistan Railways and Dong Fang have also signed an agreement to establish a 750-kilometer rail link between Havelian and Khunjerab, in the country's far north, taking in the 4,730-meter-high Khunjerab crossing over Mansehra district and the Karakoram Highway in Pakistan's northern areas, now called Gilgit-Baltistan.

The Chinese will lay about 350km of track within their own territory from Kashgar to the Khunjerab Pass, linking Pakistan with China's rail network. Havelian is already linked with the rest of Pakistan's rail network, which in turn is intended to be tied more closely with Afghanistan and Central Asia.

Analysts believe that the widening network with Pakistan and its neighbors will serve Chinese interests in the region, particularly as it is a multi-billion dollar stakeholder in Pakistan's Saindak copper extraction project and Afghanistan's Aynak copper mine.

China is also involved in building a railway from Gwadar, in Pakistan's southern Balochistan province, to Dalbandin, which links to the north with Rawalpindi. By extending its East-West Railway from the Chinese border city of Kashi to Peshawar in Pakistan's northwest, Beijing will eventually be able to send cargo to and from Gwadar, which is well-placed as a terminus for goods and fuel from the Middle East, along the shortest route, from the southern port city of Karachi to Peshawar.
Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and Pakistan

Bring back almost 10 years old thread.

Any progress on this railway track?
 
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