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Not as stupid as it sound
Besides the US are not the only ones making such drones.
But I thought there were plenty of drones in FATA and Swat..
Pakistan pushes US for drones
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Not as stupid as it sound
Besides the US are not the only ones making such drones.
But I thought there were plenty of drones in FATA and Swat..
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china also producess very good UAV same as Predator or global hawk why not buy from them
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Pakistan is working on an alternative solution, either indigenously or in cooperation with Turkey on TIHA. However the joke is that once our own solution is active, the U.S. will offer Predator, guaranteed.
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The heinous crime of the US militaristic terrorism clearly says, might is right... But how long this will go on is the only question that comes to our mind at this juncture...
At least seven people were killed and nine others injured Sunday in two suspected U.S. drone attacks in Pakistan's South Waziristan, according to local TV reports.
The missiles hit a house in a village in South Waziristan, a stronghold of pro-Taliban militants, the private NNI news agency said.
Nine others were also injured in the attack at the Hebat Khan village of South Waziristan, controlled by Taliban leader Baitulalh Mehsood.
Locals said that the house of a local tribesman Botal Khan was totally destroyed in the attack. It was not immediately known as to who was targeted.
NNI quoted security officials on condition of anonymity as claiming that a compound of suspected Taliban was hit.
Despite Pakistan's protests that such strikes are counter-productive and are a violation of its sovereignty, the U.S. has continued such attacks.
These are the fifth drone attacks since Barack Obama was inaugurated as U.S. president.
Pakistani leaders have expressed hope that the new U.S. administration would halt the controversial air strikes, saying that they fueled public anger and complicated Pakistan's own counter-insurgency efforts.
The fresh attack coincided with the visit to Washington by Pakistan's Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi to add input in the U.S. policy review of Pakistan.
Source:Xinhua
7 killed in missile attacks in NW Pakistan - People's Daily Online
At least seven people were killed and nine others injured Sunday in two suspected U.S. drone attacks in Pakistan's South Waziristan, according to local TV reports.
The missiles hit a house in a village in South Waziristan, a stronghold of pro-Taliban militants, the private NNI news agency said.
Nine others were also injured in the attack at the Hebat Khan village of South Waziristan, controlled by Taliban leader Baitulalh Mehsood.
Locals said that the house of a local tribesman Botal Khan was totally destroyed in the attack. It was not immediately known as to who was targeted.
NNI quoted security officials on condition of anonymity as claiming that a compound of suspected Taliban was hit.
Despite Pakistan's protests that such strikes are counter-productive and are a violation of its sovereignty, the U.S. has continued such attacks.
These are the fifth drone attacks since Barack Obama was inaugurated as U.S. president.
Pakistani leaders have expressed hope that the new U.S. administration would halt the controversial air strikes, saying that they fueled public anger and complicated Pakistan's own counter-insurgency efforts.
The fresh attack coincided with the visit to Washington by Pakistan's Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi to add input in the U.S. policy review of Pakistan.
Source:Xinhua
7 killed in missile attacks in NW Pakistan - People's Daily Online
Heart breaks down to see such gruesome, heinous murder of innocents getting legalize by the satanic claim of the liquidation of boggy AQ. And that too when stooge Kayani accepts prize with smile and his diciples don't even bother to shoot for ONCE at those innocent's killing machine. Lie upon lie upon damn lie upon statistics are being instrumental in this bogus WOT
(Killing practicing Muslims to thwart Islamic revival, so puppets wouldn't create any hurdle on controlling startegic assets) but so-called guardian of Islam, Pakistani army stays mum. Shame on them, shame on all traitors/ complicit of murders of innocents and May Allah burn them in hell.
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Yes this is a spontaneous reaction to the systematic genocide of Muslims all over the world. The US and its allies always try to provoke such spontaneous response from the Muslim world, which they brand as terrorism. And this acts have been practiced perpetually by the US and its allies (basically the Zionist forces including Hindu India) to continue an imperialistic game, which they also try to legitimize in the name of WoT. US makes its F16s, and when it becomes able to make a new generation F29 or whatever, then it sells out the F16s to other countries, and then when new resources become available for the US, the latest model becomes obsolete and it then sells out the latest model as the economy of the US is based upon arms and ammunition industry. This is just one of the aspects that US adopts in its geo-political game to serve its economic interests at the cost of some weak countries. We need to understand the character of this system. It is also a part of the clash of civilizations as SP Huntington has pointed out. Even the entire US population (much more ignorant about Orient and its culture than we the Orientals are about the Oxident) have been hijacked by the system which psychologically colonizes people by manufacturing consent and systematic brainwash by the education system and use of media.
I doubt if USA is going to risk the technology of UAVs like the reaper....
The USA seems to be getting some real good intelligences on these targets,,, another point on the score board for the good guys...
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By Karen DeYoung and Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, February 26, 2009; Page A10
CIA Director Leon Panetta said yesterday that U.S. aerial attacks against al-Qaeda and other extremist strongholds inside Pakistan would continue, despite concerns about a popular Pakistani backlash.
"Nothing has changed our efforts to go after terrorists, and nothing will change those efforts," Panetta said in response to questions about CIA missile attacks, launched from unmanned Predator aircraft. Although he refused to discuss details of the attacks -- and the CIA will not confirm publicly that it is behind the strikes -- Panetta said that the efforts begun under President George W. Bush to destabilize al-Qaeda and destroy its leadership "have been successful."
"I don't think we can stop just at the effort to try to disrupt them. I think it has to be a continuing effort, because they aren't going to stop," Panetta said in his first news briefing since taking the job. The CIA has launched about three dozen Predator strikes in Pakistan since late last summer, two of them during the Obama administration.
Panetta's comments came as senior Pakistani and Afghan leaders held lengthy talks here with each other and with their U.S. counterparts. Obama administration officials said that the unprecedented consultations were as important as any substantive agreements that may emerge from them.
The talks, quickly arranged during the first overseas trip of special U.S. envoy Richard C. Holbrooke this month, include the foreign and defense ministers of both countries, along with Afghanistan's interior minister and Pakistan's intelligence chief. The Pakistani army chief of staff is also here on a separate visit to his U.S. military counterparts.
In addition to bilateral sessions, the Afghan and Pakistani delegations met jointly yesterday with the National Security Council and attended a dinner hosted by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. They will hold another trilateral session today.
"We have two goals," a senior administration official said. One is to receive their input for the Obama administration's ongoing strategy review on Afghanistan and Pakistan, he said. "But it's also to hear commitments -- the Pakistanis on taking on terrorists themselves, and the Afghans on cleaning up their government."
"There are not too many brand-new ideas," the official said. "But our expectations of what they have to do are not just based on what we want them to do, but what they say they're going to do. It gives us a different basis for going back to them in the future."
Relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan have long been marked by mutual suspicion. Pakistan believes Afghanistan is too close to India, Islamabad's historical adversary to the east, while Afghanistan suspects that Pakistan has continued its traditional support for the Taliban. In addition to urging a stronger counterterrorism effort from Islamabad and less governmental corruption in Kabul, the administration seeks better cooperation between the two to stop cross-border infiltration by Pakistan-based extremists fighting U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan.
The difference between the Obama and Bush administrations, Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi said, is that "the present administration is willing to listen. They are very frank. They're saying, 'We do not have a magic formula. . . . Let Pakistan, let the U.S., let Afghanistan -- let's all stick together and find a solution," Qureshi told CNN.
The meetings have not been without conflict. Panetta, who has participated in the sessions, said he had voiced concerns about Pakistan's recently announced truce with local Taliban leaders in that country's Swat Valley region, and noted that similar agreements with militant groups in the past had allowed al-Qaeda to strengthen its base. "They assured me that this is not the same as past agreements," Panetta said. "I remain skeptical."
In a series of interviews yesterday, Qureshi said that Pakistan objected to the Predator strikes and that he has asked the United States to supply his country with drones to carry out its own missile attacks against extremists. Pakistan has also requested other sophisticated weaponry, including Cobra attack helicopters, communications and night-vision equipment. Although the drones are unlikely -- and both U.S. and Pakistani officials say they are privately in agreement on continuation of the CIA strikes -- the administration and Congress are likely to approve more military assistance along with a multibillion-dollar aid package.
Legislation introduced in the Senate last year by Vice President Biden, and soon to be sponsored by his successor as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.), and Sen. Richard G. Lugar (Ind.), ranking Republican, calls for about $1.5 Billion a year in economic and development assistance for Pakistan over the next five years.
A report released yesterday by the Atlantic Council said that at least double that amount is needed from the United States and the international community if Pakistan is to be brought back "from the brink." Pakistan, it said, "is on a rapid trajectory toward becoming a failing or failed state."
In a report last year, under the leadership of James L. Jones, who is now the national security adviser, the Atlantic Council warned that the West was "not winning in Afghanistan." Those words were repeated yesterday by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in his first major foreign policy speech since losing the presidential election to Obama in November. "Let us not shy from the truth," McCain said in an address to the American Enterprise Institute, "but let us not be paralyzed by it either."
McCain chastised "some [who] suggest it is time to scale back our ambitions in Afghanistan -- to give up on nation-building and instead focus narrowly on our counterterrorism objectives, by simply mounting operations aimed at killing or capturing terrorist leaders and destroying their networks."
Obama, while calling for improved governance in Afghanistan, has publicly suggested that the United States adopt the "very limited goal" of ensuring that "Afghanistan cannot be used as a base for launching terrorist attacks" against the United States.
Staff researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report.
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, February 26, 2009; Page A10
CIA Director Leon Panetta said yesterday that U.S. aerial attacks against al-Qaeda and other extremist strongholds inside Pakistan would continue, despite concerns about a popular Pakistani backlash.
"Nothing has changed our efforts to go after terrorists, and nothing will change those efforts," Panetta said in response to questions about CIA missile attacks, launched from unmanned Predator aircraft. Although he refused to discuss details of the attacks -- and the CIA will not confirm publicly that it is behind the strikes -- Panetta said that the efforts begun under President George W. Bush to destabilize al-Qaeda and destroy its leadership "have been successful."
"I don't think we can stop just at the effort to try to disrupt them. I think it has to be a continuing effort, because they aren't going to stop," Panetta said in his first news briefing since taking the job. The CIA has launched about three dozen Predator strikes in Pakistan since late last summer, two of them during the Obama administration.
Panetta's comments came as senior Pakistani and Afghan leaders held lengthy talks here with each other and with their U.S. counterparts. Obama administration officials said that the unprecedented consultations were as important as any substantive agreements that may emerge from them.
The talks, quickly arranged during the first overseas trip of special U.S. envoy Richard C. Holbrooke this month, include the foreign and defense ministers of both countries, along with Afghanistan's interior minister and Pakistan's intelligence chief. The Pakistani army chief of staff is also here on a separate visit to his U.S. military counterparts.
In addition to bilateral sessions, the Afghan and Pakistani delegations met jointly yesterday with the National Security Council and attended a dinner hosted by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. They will hold another trilateral session today.
"We have two goals," a senior administration official said. One is to receive their input for the Obama administration's ongoing strategy review on Afghanistan and Pakistan, he said. "But it's also to hear commitments -- the Pakistanis on taking on terrorists themselves, and the Afghans on cleaning up their government."
"There are not too many brand-new ideas," the official said. "But our expectations of what they have to do are not just based on what we want them to do, but what they say they're going to do. It gives us a different basis for going back to them in the future."
Relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan have long been marked by mutual suspicion. Pakistan believes Afghanistan is too close to India, Islamabad's historical adversary to the east, while Afghanistan suspects that Pakistan has continued its traditional support for the Taliban. In addition to urging a stronger counterterrorism effort from Islamabad and less governmental corruption in Kabul, the administration seeks better cooperation between the two to stop cross-border infiltration by Pakistan-based extremists fighting U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan.
The difference between the Obama and Bush administrations, Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi said, is that "the present administration is willing to listen. They are very frank. They're saying, 'We do not have a magic formula. . . . Let Pakistan, let the U.S., let Afghanistan -- let's all stick together and find a solution," Qureshi told CNN.
The meetings have not been without conflict. Panetta, who has participated in the sessions, said he had voiced concerns about Pakistan's recently announced truce with local Taliban leaders in that country's Swat Valley region, and noted that similar agreements with militant groups in the past had allowed al-Qaeda to strengthen its base. "They assured me that this is not the same as past agreements," Panetta said. "I remain skeptical."
In a series of interviews yesterday, Qureshi said that Pakistan objected to the Predator strikes and that he has asked the United States to supply his country with drones to carry out its own missile attacks against extremists. Pakistan has also requested other sophisticated weaponry, including Cobra attack helicopters, communications and night-vision equipment. Although the drones are unlikely -- and both U.S. and Pakistani officials say they are privately in agreement on continuation of the CIA strikes -- the administration and Congress are likely to approve more military assistance along with a multibillion-dollar aid package.
Legislation introduced in the Senate last year by Vice President Biden, and soon to be sponsored by his successor as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.), and Sen. Richard G. Lugar (Ind.), ranking Republican, calls for about $1.5 Billion a year in economic and development assistance for Pakistan over the next five years.
A report released yesterday by the Atlantic Council said that at least double that amount is needed from the United States and the international community if Pakistan is to be brought back "from the brink." Pakistan, it said, "is on a rapid trajectory toward becoming a failing or failed state."
In a report last year, under the leadership of James L. Jones, who is now the national security adviser, the Atlantic Council warned that the West was "not winning in Afghanistan." Those words were repeated yesterday by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in his first major foreign policy speech since losing the presidential election to Obama in November. "Let us not shy from the truth," McCain said in an address to the American Enterprise Institute, "but let us not be paralyzed by it either."
McCain chastised "some [who] suggest it is time to scale back our ambitions in Afghanistan -- to give up on nation-building and instead focus narrowly on our counterterrorism objectives, by simply mounting operations aimed at killing or capturing terrorist leaders and destroying their networks."
Obama, while calling for improved governance in Afghanistan, has publicly suggested that the United States adopt the "very limited goal" of ensuring that "Afghanistan cannot be used as a base for launching terrorist attacks" against the United States.
Staff researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report.
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Hey .....Do you cry when AQ blow up hotels full of innocents? or detonate suicide bombs in crowds? I hate people with myopic vision. You are a hypocrite...If those idiots had stayed in AFghan there would be no fighting inside Pakistan. Instead they ran and hide behind women and children.
Now stop talking crap.......
I asked when was the last time anyone in the world see OBL or any of the so-called AQ leaders (Zauhari, Khalid or Binalshaba etc) promulgated that they represented AQ in the following thread...http://www.defence.pk/forums/war-terror/21617-al-qaeda-doesnt-exist-2.html... (Before hatching on FSBs eggs (AKA "al Qaeda and Chechnya".), please dig deep to learn that GOEBLE, a prodigy of Third Reich (Third Reich: Overview), had practiced CREATIVE DESTRUCTION theory (Asia Times Online :: Middle East News - The new creative destruction, The Politics of 'Creative Destruction' - by Chris Moore, The American Conservative -- Flirting with Fascism) much before than the current Trotskyite Neo-cons (Trotskyism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), who have bodies in U.S but heart in Israel. Now coming to the point, could anyone please tell when he/she heard OBL claiming that he was the chief of Al-Qaeda in public for the last time before making its presence all over like six million Jews and 3 million Bengali's deaths in WW11 and 71 respectively in every now and then?). But it remained unanswered. I would do it again to you before even bothering to response your naivity.Hey .....Do you cry when AQ blow up hotels full of innocents? or detonate suicide bombs in crowds? I hate people with myopic vision. You are a hypocrite...If those idiots had stayed in AFghan there would be no fighting inside Pakistan. Instead they ran and hide behind women and children.
Now stop talking crap.......
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This post is gibberish in it's current form....I suggest editing it so it is readable.
OK, read the post # 18 of the following thread http://www.defence.pk/forums/war-terror/21617-al-qaeda-doesnt-exist-2.html and see if you can find my question, please.
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