Pakistan per nahi bolenge......

[Imran Khan]

when is birthday of our BABA JINNAH ? i want to go Karachi for salute him personally

 

[Mutakalim]

The idiots who think that this war has nothing to do with religion should think again. It is a religious fight and ultimately this war has to be fought on religious narrative. The sooner we change our narrative the better it will be.

Indian Deoband mullahs and the fraternity finally waking up to the reality of India...

The Deoband mullahs who supported and preferred India over Pakistan getting a reality check...

Thanks to Modi.

And we cannot thank enough Jinnah, his foresight, his vision and his perseverance & plan to perfection.



It all adds up here, the hatred, bigotry, vitriol, lynchings, killings to something called freedom.

The situation developing was similar to what was there in the early 30's and 40's in India...the ides of freedom.

بمصطفی برساں خویش را کہ دیں ہمہ اوست۔۔۔
اگر بہ او نرسیدی، تمام بو لہبی است۔۔۔

سرود برسر منبر کہ ملت از وطن است۔۔
چہ بے خبر ز مقام محمد عربی است۔۔

عجم ہنوز نداند رموز دیں، ورنہ۔۔۔
ز دیوبند حسین احمد! ایں چہ بوالعجبی است۔۔۔

We should kept in mind the fact that this is a very strong language, used by one of the greatest intellectual of that era. It summarise the essence of two nation theory and the ultimate purpose of the existence of this state. Unfortunately, we are forgetting that purpose.

 

[war&peace]

The idiots who think that this war has nothing to do with religion should think again. It is a religious fight and ultimately this war has to be fought on religious narrative. The sooner we change our narrative the better it will be.



بمصطفی برساں خویش را کہ دیں ہمہ اوست۔۔۔
اگر بہ او نرسیدی، تمام بو لہبی است۔۔۔

سرود برسر منبر کہ ملت از وطن است۔۔
چہ بے خبر ز مقام محمد عربی است۔۔

عجم ہنوز نداند رموز دیں، ورنہ۔۔۔
ز دیوبند حسین احمد! ایں چہ بوالعجبی است۔۔۔

We should kept in mind the fact that this is a very strong language, used by one of the greatest intellectual of that era. It summarise the essence of two nation theory and the ultimate purpose of the existence of this state. Unfortunately, we are forgetting that purpose.

In fact we have to think that who is the bigger enemy... the Nazi Hindu or the libtards who have been ruling Pakistan through force and deception.

 

[pakpride00090]

In fact we have to think that who is the bigger enemy... the Nazi Hindu or the libtards who have been ruling Pakistan through force and deception.

Both

 

[Reddington]

Their Pakistani version is "Mulla Fazlu" and all kinds of armed terrorist groups that were working under the "TTP" nomenclature. These mofs were anti-Pakistan movement before 1947 and they are the ones who have damaged Pakistani society the most by spreading religious extremism after 1947. Indian deobandis molvies have been and still are the biggest "tatpoonjiye" of congressi hindus in india.

These days Indian deobandi Molvis are not worshiping Gandhi, Nehru and Congress. Instead they are worshiping BJP, RSS and Modi.

 

[Sabretooth]

The filtration process started in 1947 and finished by the end of the same decade. Those Muslims of India who really believed in two-nation theory and wanted freedom from Hindu occupation came to the west of the border. Rest made their choice and are now suffering the consequences. Even if the young generation of Indian Muslims have started to realize their elders made a terrible mistake, it is too late now. Sons have to pay for the sins of the fathers.

Pakistan has suffered the backstabbing of Indian Muslims since its inception but these hypocrites crossed all the lines in proving their loyalty to their pagan masters by allowing India to get a foothold in the Muslim world. Muslim countries being clueless and sympathetic to the plight of Indian Muslims living under Hindu rule, opened their arms to them in the spirit of brotherhood while they being pawns of Hindutva helped their masters infiltrated everywhere. Now every Muslim country from Turkey in the west to Malaysia in the east has some sort of entanglement with these miscreants and can't seem to take a stand for the righteous cause of Muslims because of their so-called ''socio-economic ties''.

 

[Crusher]

These days Indian deobandi Molvis are not worshiping Gandhi, Nehru and Congress. Instead they are worshiping BJP, RSS and Modi.

You know in 1980s I was a very religious guy and used to follow our traditional sunni/sufi molvis (which are these called barelvi) and I used to listen audio cassettes of many pakistani barelvi molvis in my free time and even used to attend jalsas of them. I remember they used to do "verbal postmortem of deobandis" a lot of times and always used to expose them by saying that their "Akabreen" (hussani ahmed madni, abul kalam azad, ashraf thanvi etc.) were the biggest congress supporters and haters of Muslim league before 1947 during Pakistan movement. And they were proud that their Barelvis molvis even sitting in UP india were always supporters of Pakistan movement unlike these congress hindu lovers of deoband madrassa in UP india. I used to think they might be just exaggerating but now I have realized that they were speaking the "truth" which most people in Pakistan are unaware of.
Molvi Fazlu calls those congressi hindu "tatpoonjye" of Deoband madrass (hussain ahmed madni, abul kalam azad types) as his "akabreen" and still "invites them" to come and give speeches in their jalsas from time to time.

Here is an example of molvi Fazlu's party giving stage to the new generation "tatpoonjiya" of hindus from Deoband madrassa in india called "asad madni" because they share the same "maktaba fiqar",

Now you can understand why Mulla Fazlu deobandi was always mum against india on Kashmir issue despite heading the Kashmir committee since ages in Pakistan. Making Mulla Fazlu as head of "Kashmir committee" was like making a "billa" as watchman for "milk". Molvi Fazlu just follows the line of his "akabreen" from deoband madrassa who were as I say the biggest "tatpooniye" of congress and hindus before 1947 and hated Pakistan movement to the depth of their hearts.

 

[TechMan]

Since we are talking about lynching, here's another video in which Hindus are beating a Muslim woman with sticks an forcing her to say Jai Shri Ram

https://www.reddit.com/r/path%3D%252Fr%252FIndiaLynching%252Fcomments%252Fcxe15o%252F

 

[Reddington]

You know in 1980s I was a very religious guy and used to follow our traditional sunni/sufi molvis (which are these called barelvi) and I used to listen audio cassettes of many pakistani barelvi molvis in my free time and even used to attend jalsas of them. I remember they used to do "operation of deobandis" a lot of times and always used to expose them by saying that their "Akabreen" (hussani ahmed madni, abul kalam azad, ashraf thanvi etc.) were the biggest congress supporters and haters of Muslim league before 1947 during Pakistan movement. And they were proud that their Barelvis molvis even sitting in UP india were always supporters of Pakistan movement unlike these congress hindu lovers of deoband madrassa in UP india. I used to think they might be just exaggerating but now I have realized that they were speaking the "truth" which most people in Pakistan are unaware of.
Molvi Fazlu calls those congressi hindu "tatpoonjye" of Deoband madrass (hussain ahmed madni, abul kalam azad types) as his "akabreen" and still "invites them" to come and give speeches in their jalsas from time to time.

Here is an example of molvi Fazlu's party giving stage to the current "tatpoonjiya" of hindus from Deoband madrassa in india called "asad madni" because they share the same "makta fiqar",

Now you can understand why Mulla Fazlu deobandi was always mum against india on Kashmir issue despite heading the Kashmir committee since ages in Pakistan. Making Mulla Fazlu as head of "Kashmir committee" was like making a "billa" as watchman for "milk". Molvi Fazlu just follows the line of his "akabreen" from deoband madrassa who were as I say the biggest "tatpooniye" of congress and hindus before 1947 and hated Pakistan movement to the depth of their heart.

The tragedy is that Allama Shabeer Ahmad Usmani was a deobandi who resigned from Jamiat-e-Ulma-e-Hind and founded his party Jamiat-e-Ulma-e-Islam and fully supported Quaid-e-Azam and Pakistan movement and was one of the biggest contributors of Pakistan movement.

But after his death this great man's party was hijacked by Mufti Mehmood ch*****, father of fuzla in 1962 who then again made this party a deobandi party (meaning anti Pakistan and pro India religious party). This Mufti Mehmood ch***** once said that "Men Pakistan bnanay k gunah men shareek nhi tha".

Fuzla is even a bigger scumbag and a traitor than his father was.

Imo, anything relating to India should be banned completely. Unfortunately our state is too weak to enforce anything. Barailvy and Deobandis relate themselves with two cities of India instead of just being the followers of Ahl-e-Sunnat-wa-al-Jamaat or Sunni which has been the case for past 1400 years.

 

[Sabretooth]

The biggest hindrance in the liberation of Kashmir is not Indian Military, RSS/BJP or Hindus. It is the Indian Muslims. They have convinced the Muslim world that Pakistani Muslims are independent with strong military and can fend for themselves while we are weak and at the mercy of Hindus so do not side with Pakistan against India or else Hindus will wipe us all out. Due of this blackmail, the whole Muslim world have put their hands up to India over the matter of Kashmir because it is 10 million Kashmiri Muslims VS 200 million Indian Muslims.

 

[Mutakalim]

In fact we have to think that who is the bigger enemy... the Nazi Hindu or the libtards who have been ruling Pakistan through force and deception.

IMHO, it is not that simple. We have to categories them for better understanding and to counter their narrative.

Firstly, those secular/liberals who are anti Islam and anti Pakistan. They basically hate Islam, it's ideology and specifically it's political narrative. They frequently use derogatory remarks about Islamic concepts, it's rituals and Sunnah of Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H).

For example, they coined the derogatory term of "Ummah Chummah". I am writing it to highlight their filthy mind. They used it, and repeated it to the extent that even our common Pakistanis, who are usually good practicing Muslims, started using it. These fools didn't understood that Ummah is a Quranic term and by degrading it, they are insulting Holy Quran, without ever realising it. These common Pakistanis also didnt realise the fact that by attacking the concept of Ummah, liberals are actually attacking the ideological existence of Pakistan because, Pakistan is a mini Ummah. Concept of Ummah was validated and demonstrated by the creation of Pakistan. Creation of Pakistan was the biggest demonstration and Practical implementation of the concept of Muslim nationhood. Dogs of hell, who were managing groups like Bhensa were also a part of this category of liberals. Majority of them are Qadiyanis or like Qadiyanis, they have practically left Islam for all intent and purposes.

This kind of liberals dont deserve any mercy or forgiveness. They should be uprooted root and stem, by the shear force and will of state.

Secondly, those who are ignorant of Islam and it's ideology. They constitute the major part of liberals and secular. Reasons of their ignorance were far ranging, from lack of education to family background and I think we have discussed them many times. These people actually need proper guidance and education, and I am sure, many of them will change their stance.

Thirdly, the men who are highly educated in Islamic and secular studies. They are the men who are the driving force behind this ideology. They are well educated, well taught and their manners are admirable. They know how to speak, communicate and how to build and strengthen their narrative. They have resources and are backed by media houses and wealthy corporations.

Imam of this group is Javed Ahmad Ghamidi. All above mentioned qualities can be attributed to him. He has tried to change the whole narrative of Islam by conforming it to those standards which are acceptable to west. He has completely rejected the idea of Muslim nationhood and two nation theory. In my opinion, he is the biggest fitnah of the current era. Men like him are the real competitors and our focused should be completely on them, as they have the ability to change old narrative, and they are forming a new narrative. They also have strong influence and support in bureaucratic circles, which is actually the backbone of this state.
@Khafee

 

[war&peace]

IMHO, it is not that simple. We have to categories them for better understanding and to counter their narrative.

Firstly, those secular/liberals who are anti Islam and anti Pakistan. They basically hate Islam, it's ideology and specifically it's political narrative. They frequently use derogatory remarks about Islamic concepts, it's rituals and Sunnah of Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H).

For example, they coined the derogatory term of "Ummah Chummah". I am writing it to highlight their filthy mind. They used it, and repeated it to the extent that even our common Pakistanis, who are usually good practicing Muslims, started using it. These fools didn't understood that Ummah is a Quranic term and by degrading it, they are insulting Holy Quran, without ever realising it. These common Pakistanis also didnt realise the fact that by attacking the concept of Ummah, liberals are actually attacking the ideological existence of Pakistan because, Pakistan is a mini Ummah. Concept of Ummah was validated and demonstrated by the creation of Pakistan. Creation of Pakistan was the biggest demonstration and Practical implementation of the concept of Muslim nationhood. Dogs of hell, who were managing groups like Bhensa were also a part of this category of liberals. Majority of them are Qadiyanis or like Qadiyanis, they have practically left Islam for all intent and purposes.

This kind of liberals dont deserve any mercy or forgiveness. They should be uprooted root and stem, by the shear force and will of state.

Secondly, those who are ignorant of Islam and it's ideology. They constitute the major part of liberals and secular. Reasons of their ignorance were far ranging, from lack of education to family background and I think we have discussed them many times. These people actually need proper guidance and education, and I am sure, many of them will change their stance.

Thirdly, the men who are highly educated in Islamic and secular studies. They are the men who are the driving force behind this ideology. They are well educated, well taught and their manners are admirable. They know how to speak, communicate and how to build and strengthen their narrative. They have resources and are backed by media houses and wealthy corporations.

Imam of this group is Javed Ahmad Ghamidi. All above mentioned qualities can be attributed to him. He has tried to change the whole narrative of Islam by conforming it to those standards which are acceptable to west. He has completely rejected the idea of Muslim nationhood and two nation theory. In my opinion, he is the biggest fitnah of the current era. Men like him are the real competitors and our focused should be completely on them, as they have the ability to change old narrative, and they are forming a new narrative. They also have strong influence and support in bureaucratic circles, which is actually the backbone of this state.
@Khafee

Excellent!! you earned my respect bro, very well put. I've soon to leave for Ishaa prayer, I would like to add a few things for "the common Pakistanis" though. Every one of you is responsible for his or her deeds. Ignorance will not accepted as a valid excuse on the day of judgement since Holy Quran & Hadith are available to everyone and it is your job to search for true knowledge. Even Iblees will distance himself on the day of judgement and non of his followers will be spared because of the lack of knowledge. Hence if you start disrespecting the Islamic terms following trend created by some libturds, you will be answerable for your deeds and none will come to save you so use your brain and time to acquire knowledge.

 

[Mutakalim]

Excellent!! you earned my respect bro, very well put. I've soon to leave for Ishaa prayer, I would like to add a few things for "the common Pakistanis" though. Every one of you is responsible for his or her deeds. Ignorance will not accepted as a valid excuse on the day of judgement since Holy Quran & Hadith are available to everyone and it is your job to search for true knowledge. Even Iblees will distance himself on the day of judgement and non of his followers will be spared because of the lack of knowledge. Hence if you start disrespecting the Islamic terms following trend created by some libturds, you will be answerable for your deeds and none will come to save you so use your brain and time to acquire knowledge.

I think we should give them a fair margin of doubt. The one who are showing disrespect are beyond mercy and infect reason. However, all of them are not disrespectful, they just have difference of opinion. We must be lenient with them, must use reason, logic and must tolerate their questions and counter arguments.

One other thing which should be pointed out clearly that, numbers of liberals in our society are very low. They will never form a majority in a foreseeable future. However, they have a huge influence in the policy circles of Pakistan and their influence is increasing rapidly. That is the main reason of this steady and constant shift of narrative from Islamic nationalism to Pakistani nationalism, from Jehad to the promotion of soft image of Pakistan and from enforcement of Shariah to enlightened moderation. This is going to be the biggest fitnah for Muslim Ummah and we should be mindful of the fact that we dont have any Iqbal or Mujadad Alif Sani or Ghazali to confront it.

 

[war&peace]

These days Indian deobandi Molvis are not worshiping Gandhi, Nehru and Congress. Instead they are worshiping BJP, RSS and Modi.

I think now they are waking up.. I hope they all do.. I just feel pity for the Muslims of the subcontinent who were duped by these ibleesi mullahs into accepting the slavery of Hindu majority. Each Muslim lynched by Hindu mob is added to the list of victims of Abol-Kalam Azad, Hussain Ahmad Madni, Fulza's father and his jamat-e-ulema-e-hind.
Today, QA MA Jinnah stands vindicated...

 

[pakpride00090]

News anchor is a Muslim herself.

Are you sure about that ? A muslim won't be able to say such things.
Maybe she is ex-muslim with a muslim sounding name ?