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Pakistan – One of The Least Racist Countries In The World

Yeah man. I believe same. So many punjabi muslims(who are Pakistani obviously) left their everything and MIGRATED to Pakistani Punjab. SAME as the folks u r describing.

But the Karachiites/Urdu Speakers. Impose the word MUHAJIR on themselves when in fact a vast majority of Pakistanis today are MUHAJIR. Which means they gave up India and whatever they had in it and chose Pakistan.

Except for maybe a big number of Balochs and Pakhtuns bcz their territories were already in Pakistan.

You don't see Punjabis wailing and crying calling themsleves Muhajir. When millions of Punjabis did do Hijrat to Pakistan.
Just talk to Punjabi families how their women were raped and murdered, trains burned, a popular way to murder babies for sikhs was to fling babies in the air and let them land on their curved swords and daggers.

My great grand-father put the rest of his family on a train and was supposed to catch a different train a few days later but was slaughtered half way. And he was a British govt servant at the time and had British Army security. So you can imagine the ferociry of the Sikhs at the time.

So I know about sacrifice.

But the Hindustanis/Mohajirs/Urdu speaks make it out to be as if the only greatest sacrifice is theirs and theirs only. And they are the only persecuted people. Their wailing and crying and scheming at the same time is akin to the Bani Israel.



you just type in mirpuri in google and read in the forums. Take a guess which groups is mocking /cursing. Imran khan wants uk paks to invest but wtf in it for us did we get jobs no? did we get land no? industries no? etc nothing.
No investment in azad Kashmir, it just has a bunch of hillbilies that cry that pak doesn't do anything for them, my reply well it your land you allowed to happen.
Itna pukka airport security even the pilot tried forced me to pay.
New airport is now far away because some greedy bussinesman want Islamabad
bussines and land plots to sell.

Tell me why is azad Kashmir locals not hired for jobs?. it has been more than 30 years of money going to azad Kashmir from uk.
 
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Yeah man. I believe same. So many punjabi muslims(who are Pakistani obviously) left their everything and MIGRATED to Pakistani Punjab. SAME as the folks u r describing.

But the Karachiites/Urdu Speakers. Impose the word MUHAJIR on themselves when in fact a vast majority of Pakistanis today are MUHAJIR. Which means they gave up India and whatever they had in it and chose Pakistan.

Except for maybe a big number of Balochs and Pakhtuns bcz their territories were already in Pakistan.

You don't see Punjabis wailing and crying calling themsleves Muhajir. When millions of Punjabis did do Hijrat to Pakistan.
Just talk to Punjabi families how their women were raped and murdered, trains burned, a popular way to murder babies for sikhs was to fling babies in the air and let them land on their curved swords and daggers.

My great grand-father put the rest of his family on a train and was supposed to catch a different train a few days later but was slaughtered half way. And he was a British govt servant at the time and had British Army security. So you can imagine the ferociry of the Sikhs at the time.

So I know about sacrifice.

But the Hindustanis/Mohajirs/Urdu speaks make it out to be as if the only greatest sacrifice is theirs and theirs only. And they are the only persecuted people. Their wailing and crying and scheming at the same time is akin to the Bani Israel.

I don't call myself "Muhajir" nor my family has used this term ever. Infact, I have encountered such impression in my life as if I am Punjabi :lol:
When I used to tell I am Karachiite, it was still not accepted as correct answer.Hence, at the end of the day I was left with only option to call myself as "Urdu speaking!" :lol:
So, environment pushes some people to choose specific label.The irony with Urdu speaking people is that they are multi-ethnic, having different appearance: Either to dark, wheatish or somewhere in the shades of brown; does nor speak any provincial language but Urdu & English and have dissimilar cultural practices and phenotype as compare to the provincial counterparts.That is why, a group among them called themselves Muhajir since they don't find themselves fitting into any category.Some still have problems to define their background because the Indian cities were different.A Punjabi immigrant can easily adjust himself but any immigrant from other cities of India might have hard time in defining his new identity.However, some groups have managed provincial identity crisis and defined themselves as Urdu speaking Pakistanis :)

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some afghans are racist especially some in ptm which use the word khalia as an insult
 
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Jaag Punjabi
Jiye Sindh
Azizabaad/hindustore qomi movement
Baloch Liberation
Pashtoon Tahaffuz

Albeit all started by enemies but several people bought into it. So there must be an element of racism in Pakistan.

My firsthand experience tells me to be careful of especially the urdu speak/fake hindustanis. They are like a people who have become muslim but their qibla in their hearts is still India. Bass Karachi rahe baaki Pakistan jaye bhar me.
Even when we who live in other parts of Pakistan go through the same hardships as these hindustore.
You can see it clearly on their faces or by their behavior when I tell em Iam Punjabi or when my friend says he is a Pathan.

And now they will slap me with a ban cuz majority of the Pakistani diaspora is composed of these advocates of anti nationalism and superiority of Karachi. And much of this forum is composed of these fararis/asylum seekers. Defaming their motherland for a blue or red passport.

And I have already argued with them about how their proclamation of being a minority, and being persecuted is totally BASELESS, FAKE and SELF-IMPOSED. It is a situation and a title which they THEMSELVES REFUSE to give up.

The first question such people ask me is "Aap Karachi se hain/Are you from Karachi"?? As if Pakistan as an entity does not even exist and the only sacred land that exists on the face of this Earthis Karachi.
And God I love the look on the faces of such people when I tell em I am from Lahore and click their faces and behavior make a total U-Turn. And they walk away cursing and blabbering under their breath.

It stuns how they are so self-obsessed. Hateful to other people and yet claim to be persecuted.
I think you mostly listen most of stupid person on earth altaf Hussain and his propaganda. I am also Urdu speaking I have no word to say about your hatred toward Urdu speaking.

Just because of few people you can't do unjust with the rest. It's disgusting.
 
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Jaag Punjabi
Jiye Sindh
Azizabaad/hindustore qomi movement
Baloch Liberation
Pashtoon Tahaffuz

Albeit all started by enemies but several people bought into it. So there must be an element of racism in Pakistan.

My firsthand experience tells me to be careful of especially the urdu speak/fake hindustanis. They are like a people who have become muslim but their qibla in their hearts is still India. Bass Karachi rahe baaki Pakistan jaye bhar me.
Even when we who live in other parts of Pakistan go through the same hardships as these hindustore.
You can see it clearly on their faces or by their behavior when I tell em Iam Punjabi or when my friend says he is a Pathan.

And now they will slap me with a ban cuz majority of the Pakistani diaspora is composed of these advocates of anti nationalism and superiority of Karachi. And much of this forum is composed of these fararis/asylum seekers. Defaming their motherland for a blue or red passport.

And I have already argued with them about how their proclamation of being a minority, and being persecuted is totally BASELESS, FAKE and SELF-IMPOSED. It is a situation and a title which they THEMSELVES REFUSE to give up.

The first question such people ask me is "Aap Karachi se hain/Are you from Karachi"?? As if Pakistan as an entity does not even exist and the only sacred land that exists on the face of this Earthis Karachi.
And God I love the look on the faces of such people when I tell em I am from Lahore and click their faces and behavior make a total U-Turn. And they walk away cursing and blabbering under their breath.

It stuns how they are so self-obsessed. Hateful to other people and yet claim to be persecuted.

Although not all Urdu speaking people are like this, there is a large population of people in Karachi who do think they are superior and exceptional compared to the rest of paindu, qabaili Pakistanis. Some of these superior Karachiites are also Punjabis.

The arrogance is amazing sometimes.
 
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why Indians are racists?
what makes them racist?
why do they feel they are superior?

when you know for fact you are inferior then you do your best of worst to feel superior against someone or something. Like a coward will cage and dog and abuse him just to prove himself he is not a coward. This is no rocket science but basic human nature you can see all around you.
 
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Although not all Urdu speaking people are like this, there is a large population of people in Karachi who do think they are superior and exceptional compared to the rest of paindu, qabaili Pakistanis. Some of these superior Karachiites are also Punjabis.

The arrogance is amazing sometimes.

some of the Pakhtoons act like this as well
 
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Yeah man. I believe same. So many punjabi muslims(who are Pakistani obviously) left their everything and MIGRATED to Pakistani Punjab. SAME as the folks u r describing.

But the Karachiites/Urdu Speakers. Impose the word MUHAJIR on themselves when in fact a vast majority of Pakistanis today are MUHAJIR. Which means they gave up India and whatever they had in it and chose Pakistan.

Except for maybe a big number of Balochs and Pakhtuns bcz their territories were already in Pakistan.

You don't see Punjabis wailing and crying calling themsleves Muhajir. When millions of Punjabis did do Hijrat to Pakistan.
Just talk to Punjabi families how their women were raped and murdered, trains burned, a popular way to murder babies for sikhs was to fling babies in the air and let them land on their curved swords and daggers.

My great grand-father put the rest of his family on a train and was supposed to catch a different train a few days later but was slaughtered half way. And he was a British govt servant at the time and had British Army security. So you can imagine the ferociry of the Sikhs at the time.

So I know about sacrifice.

But the Hindustanis/Mohajirs/Urdu speaks make it out to be as if the only greatest sacrifice is theirs and theirs only. And they are the only persecuted people. Their wailing and crying and scheming at the same time is akin to the Bani Israel.

Yes, that's true. Punjab bore the brunt of partition and the sacrifices given by Urdu speaking migrants from UP, Bihar etc. were nothing as compared to what Punjabis had to face. Yet Punjabis, unlike Bhaiyyas, have never tried to use those sacrifices for political purposes.

As per 1951 census, settlers from East Punjab (numbering 5.28 million) constituted 25.6 % of the total population of Pakistani Punjab. i.e. every fourth person in Punjab was a "settler from East Punjab" or 'Mohajir'.
 
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I am not being unjust to all of u. But pointing out a disease that exists between ur folks.
I think you mostly listen most of stupid person on earth altaf Hussain and his propaganda. I am also Urdu speaking I have no word to say about your hatred toward Urdu speaking.

Just because of few people you can't do unjust with the rest. It's disgusting.
 
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I lump in MQM, ANP in the same boat as totally beyghairat. N league and PPP also have some level of beyghairati, but to a lesser extent than the former.

Which why if IK is smart he should outlaw those parties and let new parties come about open as much cases against their leaders
 
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Global racism map 2013.


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That is the truth. But our truth will always be foreshadowed by the wailing, screaming and yelling of these masoom victimized victimizers. This truth will always be rejected and supressed by these farari asylum seekers who exchanged the honor of Pakistan for a different passport and not through a legitimate legal procedure.

And when they went abroad they started subversive activities to fund problems for Pakistan. I've literally held conversations with these bhaiyyas where they told me outright that their ancestors made the biggest mistakes of their lives when they chose Pakistan. And that Quaid e Azam was a deluded lunatic. The army was also on their hit list. They blamed the army for cleaning up Karachi in 90s and recently. And claimed they killing innocent people. When I told em about the massive caches of weapons recovered from MQM offices. They said it was the protection of the local innocent opressed people. WTF.
I was left stunned and fuming when the bhaiyya aunties said that. I was done with them.
Yes, that's true. Punjab bore the brunt of partition and the sacrifices given by Urdu speaking migrants from UP, Bihar etc. were nothing as compared to what Punjabis had to face. Yet Punjabis, unlike Bhaiyyas, have never tried to use those sacrifices for political purposes.

As per 1951 census, settlers from East Punjab (numbering 5.28 million) constituted 25.6 % of the total population of Pakistani Punjab. i.e. every fourth person in Punjab was a "settler from East Punjab" or 'Mohajir'.
 
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Another interesting statistics directly taken from the World Values Survey 2013. (the original source) show that the main 3 sects of the Muslims are the most tolerant among all the religious groups.

Shia 5.6%
Sunni 7.1%
Al-Hadis 8.5%
Orthodox 15.4%
Roman Catholic 20.1%
Jew 28.6%
Protestant 29.8%
Sikh 30.0%
Jain 33.3%
Hindu 38.1%
Buddhist 43.1%
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A fascinating map of the world’s most and least racially tolerant countries


By Max Fisher
May 15, 2013
A professor who studies race and ethnic conflict responds to this map.

When two Swedish economists set out to examine whether economic freedom made people any more or less racist, they knew how they would gauge economic freedom, but they needed to find a way to measure a country's level of racial tolerance. So they turned to something called the World Values Survey, which has been measuring global attitudes and opinions for decades.

Among the dozens of questions that World Values asks, the Swedish economists found one that, they believe, could be a pretty good indicator of tolerance for other races. The survey asked respondents in more than 80 different countries to identify kinds of people they would not want as neighbors. Some respondents, picking from a list, chose "people of a different race." The more frequently that people in a given country say they don't want neighbors from other races, the economists reasoned, the less racially tolerant you could call that society. (The study concluded that economic freedom had no correlation with racial tolerance, but it does appear to correlate with tolerance toward homosexuals.)

Unfortunately, the Swedish economists did not include all of the World Values Survey data in their final research paper. So I went back to the source, compiled the original data and mapped it out on the infographic above. In the bluer countries, fewer people said they would not want neighbors of a different race; in red countries, more people did.

If we treat this data as indicative of racial tolerance, then we might conclude that people in the bluer countries are the least likely to express racist attitudes, while the people in red countries are the most likely.

Compare the results to this map of the world's most and least diverse countries.

Before we dive into the data, a couple of caveats. First, it's entirely likely that some people lied when answering this question; it would be surprising if they hadn't. But the operative question, unanswerable, is whether people in certain countries were more or less likely to answer the question honestly. For example, while the data suggest that Swedes are more racially tolerant than Finns, it's possible that the two groups are equally tolerant but that Finns are just more honest. The willingness to state such a preference out loud, though, might be an indicator of racial attitudes in itself. Second, the survey is not conducted every year; some of the results are very recent and some are several years old, so we're assuming the results are static, which might not be the case.
Here's what the data show:

• Anglo and Latin countries most tolerant. People in the survey were most likely to embrace a racially diverse neighbor in the United Kingdom and its Anglo former colonies (the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand) and in Latin America. The only real exceptions were oil-rich Venezuela, where income inequality sometimes breaks along racial lines, and the Dominican Republic, perhaps because of its adjacency to troubled Haiti. Scandinavian countries also scored high.

• India and Jordan by far the least tolerant. In only two of 81 surveyed countries, more than 40 percent of respondents said they would not want a neighbor of a different race. This included 43.5 percent of Indians and 51.4 percent of Jordanian. (Note: World Values’ data for Bangladesh and Hong Kong appear to have been inverted, with in fact only 28.3 and 26.8 percent, respectively, having indicated they would not want a neighbor of a different race. Please see correction at the bottom of this post.)
• Wide, interesting variation across Europe. Immigration and national identity are big, touchy issues in much of Europe, where racial make-ups are changing. Though you might expect the richer, better-educated Western European nations to be more tolerant than those in Eastern Europe, that's not exactly the case. France appeared to be one of the least racially tolerant countries on the continent, with 22.7 percent saying they didn't want a neighbor of another race. Former Soviet states such as Belarus and Latvia scored as more tolerant than much of Europe. Many in the Balkans, perhaps after years of ethnicity-tinged wars, expressed lower racial tolerance.

• The Middle East not so tolerant. Immigration is also a big issue in this region, particularly in Egypt and Saudi Arabia, which often absorb economic migrants from poorer neighbors.

• Racial tolerance low in diverse Asian countries. Nations such as Indonesia and the Philippines, where many racial groups often jockey for influence and have complicated histories with one another, showed more skepticism of diversity. This was also true, to a lesser extent, in China and Kyrgyzstan. There were similar trends in parts of sub-Saharan Africa.

• South Korea, not very tolerant, is an outlier. Although the country is rich, well-educated, peaceful and ethnically homogenous – all trends that appear to coincide with racial tolerance – more than one in three South Koreans said they do not want a neighbor of a different race. This may have to do with Korea's particular view of its own racial-national identity as unique – studied by scholars such as B.R. Myers – and with the influx of Southeast Asian neighbors and the nation's long-held tensions with Japan.

• Pakistan, remarkably tolerant, also an outlier. Although the country has a number of factors that coincide with racial intolerance – sectarian violence, its location in the least-tolerant region of the world, low economic and human development indices – only 6.5 percent of Pakistanis objected to a neighbor of a different race. This would appear to suggest Pakistanis are more racially tolerant than even the Germans or the Dutch.

Update: I've heard some version of one question from an overwhelming number of readers: "I've met lots of Indians and Americans and found the former more racially tolerant than the latter. How can these results possibly be correct?" I'd suggest three possible explanations for this, some combination of which may or may not be true. First, both India and the U.S. are enormous countries; anecdotal interactions are not representative of the whole, particularly given that people who are wealthy enough to travel internationally may be likely to encounter some subsets of these respective populations more than others.

Second, the survey question gets to internal, personal preferences; what the respondents want. One person's experiences hanging out with Americans or Indians, in addition to being anecdotal, only tell you about their outward behavior. Both of those ways of observing racial attitudes might suggest something about racial tolerance, but they're different indicators that measure different things, which could help explain how one might contradict the other.

Third, the survey question is a way of judging racial tolerance but, like many social science metrics, is indirect and imperfect. I cited the hypothetical about Swedes and Finns at the top of this post, noting that perhaps some people are just more honest about their racial tolerance than others. It's entirely possible that we're seeing some version of this effect in the U.S.-India comparison; maybe, for example, Americans are conditioned by their education and media to keep these sorts of racial preferences private, i.e. to lie about them on surveys, in a way that Indians might not be. That difference would be interesting in itself, but alas there is no survey question for honesty.

Correction: This post originally indicated that, according to the World Values Survey, 71.7 percent of Bangladeshis and 71.8 percent of Hong Kongers had said that they would not want a neighbor of a different race. In fact, those numbers appear to be substantially lower, 28.3 percent and 26.8 percent, respectively. In both cases, World Values appears to have erroneously posted the incorrect data on its Web site. Ashirul Amin, posting at the Tufts University Fletcher School’s emerging markets blog, looked into the data for Bangladesh and discovered the mistake. My thanks to Amin, who is Bangladeshi and was able to read the original questionnaire, for pointing this out. His analysis is worth reading in full, but here’s his conclusion:

The short answer is, yes, someone did fat finger this big time. "Yes" and "No" got swapped in the second round of the survey, which means that 28.3% of Bangladeshis said they wouldn’t want neighbors of a different race – not 71.7%.

26K Facebook likers and 2.5K Tweeters, take note.

Amin adds, “Bangladeshis are a tolerant bunch — it’s ok to come visit.” The error in the Hong Kong data, first discovered by Chinese-speaking users on Reddit, was flagged by Engadget Chinese editor Richard Lai. Ng Chun Hung, a University of Hong Kong professor who was the principal investigator on World Values' survey there, confirmed via e-mail that the data had been transposed on the survey company's Web site. He added that he has written the World Values Survey team to alert it to this and ask it to remove the faulty data. My thanks to him, as well as to Lai and the Reddit users who dug through original Chinese-language survey forms to demonstrate the error.
 
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I am not being unjust to all of u. But pointing out a disease that exists between ur folks.
This disease only exit among altaf followers whether they are in pak or outside pak. Just like you will find the followers of nawaz and zardari despite the fact that they both looted and hurt Pakistan more then anyone else.

Now a days Altaf is getting funding only from UK and not from anywhere else. It means that majority of Urdu speaking rejected him.

Be a Pakistani and that's it.
 
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