Pakistan officially inducts HQ 9 Air Defence system

[Great Janjua]

It's the "P" variant which isn't old.
The missile itself is a two-stage 200+ kg missile. If you believe it has such a short-range then I feel sorry for you

The press release clearly says "HQ-9P" not B or BE

Am being reasonable we are a cash minced nation, army likes to cheap out in such sectors whilst the air force does not, it's a fact. at this point, we don't know for certain if it's 125km or above 200km.

let's stick to the topic and be earthbound.

 

[Super Falcon]

Yesterday army blocked entire dockyard just to get the selivery of these from port i had idea that might be air defence system was moving and after 2 days im right

 

[iLION12345_1]

Am being reasonable we are a cash minced nation, army likes to cheap out in such sectors whilst the air force does not, it's a fact. at this point, we don't know for certain if it's 125km or above 200km.

let's stick to the topic and be earthbound.

It really depends on the item. They certainly didn’t cheap out on VT-4. They spent as much as they could on it. They also don’t seem to be doing so for the Z-10ME. And judging by how they’re calling the system, I’m getting an indication that unlike the LY80E, this isn’t just a normal HQ-9/FD2000. But that’s just me wishing. At the end of the day, regardless of what it is, it’s a massive capability boost to our AD.

 

[FuturePAF]

disclosing the number and location of defence batteries would be a real stupid thing to do

That’s true. It will generally get picked up by OSINT sources, but you have a point that it should be keep as ambiguous as possible.

 

[Super Falcon]

Still there is one question in my mind that air force chief is the sole responsible for all air defence yet army orders them and induct them it is not their portfolio to integrate high end air defence and airforce dont have any say on it


LY 80
HQ 9
another air defnce system from china i forgotten its name all are army air defence command

Only spada 2000 in air force command

 

[Foinikas]

What I mean is, is it comparable to S400 or Patriots in terms of capabilities?

It's a Chinese version of the S-300 I think.

Well done guys!

 

[kursed]

People, comparing one SAM system vs another, is not how this works. Even if we'd S400, it would not be used as Indians would use their system.

All of these weapons are ultimately tools, within a system, and that's where it'd justify its presence. It's nothing to do with what India has or does not. We do not even know their utility within PA-AD right now, or their understanding under which these would be employed at time of war. Who'd be responsible for what etc. Just comparing the proverbial indian system with this will end up in inane debates like the ones that suggested BARS radar on Indian MKI will render enter PAF useless (that they will sit out the encounter).

 

[Maula Jatt]

It's a Chinese version of the S-300 I think.

Well done guys!

Was that sarcasm dude?

 

[hussain0216]

It's a Chinese version of the S-300 I think.

Well done guys!

Not anymore it seems, HQ9 seems to have come a long way since

 

[sparten]

I was actually thinking the opposite. That PA doesn't trust the PAF to be able to defend some locations so they want to enforce their own no-fly zones. It would be more in line with @kursed's assertion that PAF's vision and PA's CIADBAM are their own dairh eent ki masjids.

Yes. Army Air Defence has been considered a true fighting arm for nearly 2 decades.

 

[Foinikas]

Was that sarcasm dude?

No,it was about time you inducted a long-range Air Defence system. This subject had been going on for too long. Pakistan needed a new system like this. Finally!

 

[Tipu7]

So who do we credit this time? Who was right all along? Was @PanzerKiel @Blacklight @kursed or @Tipu7?

Who had said 'high quality amreekan mal'? The year is ending fast...

After Navy and Army, the next card will be thrown by PAF.

 

[Aesterix]

Am being reasonable we are a cash minced nation, army likes to cheap out in such sectors whilst the air force does not, it's a fact. at this point, we don't know for certain if it's 125km or above 200km.

let's stick to the topic and be earthbound.

These missiles are bigger than the tiny arse FD-2000
Look at the pictures side by side.

@JamD
Isn't "Dat azz" much bigger than FD-2000?

 

[Major Sam]

People laughed when I said PAF is getting J10s and HQ9bs

4 batteries of HQ9Bs

Considering the size of Pakistan along with the HQ-16s, SPADA 2000s, and indiginous short range missiles. Pakistan now has a very formidable air defence system taking into consideration its size.

J10s will be here by dec.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

The missile maximum speed is mach 4.2.
Beahmos is slower, so?

That is not really that relevant. It helps but the key question is do the onboard sensors, radars etc. have the ability to detect, track and engage a supersonic cruise missile? With longer range sam, it may be able to intercept a bit sooner as the max speed takes time to build up. Other option is ciws but those are very short range, and at most may just protect these SAM batteries.