Pakistan officially inducts HQ 9 Air Defence system

[PaklovesTurkiye]

It seems good development for us.

We are getting an equalizer.

But it is also important to remember that WEAPON just complicates the matter for enemy. If enemy is motivated or hell bent, he can circumvent any weapon you throw at him.

Air Defence Missile Units have their counter weapons. Think of Turkish Koral Systems or Dedicated EW platforms notorious for jamming Ground Missile Units.

KORAL is a land-based transportable electronic warfare system developed to jam and deceive hostile radars of enemy nations. It is designed and manufactured by Aselsan, a Turkish corporation that produces electronic systems for the Turkish Armed Forces.

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Furthermore, It seems we are getting Chinese Weapons for all of our 3 branches of armed forces. We are becoming small China in a military sense. The enemies of China may take great interest in checking things here and there so Pakistan needs to be vigilant and smart.

India may become a tool if not already in this regard to test out Chinese stuff.

Good thing is that Chinese are keeping Indians engaged in Himalayas

 

[farooqbhai007]

One battery is equivalent to one firing unit.... Each firing unit or battery has a number of troops, each troop has a number of launchers... That's how it goes.

Ahh yes the Pakistani-Indian system , from top it looks like a such a low number while inside its much larger , Similar to how the Indian Army only has 2 Regiments of Akash yet inside thats 6 troop each per regiment , which makes a total of 48 Launchers in service.

 

[Cool_Soldier]

That was long waiting weapon in modernize list .Thanks to Allah, we are equipped with high altitude and long range air defence. Layer is nearly completed.
However, Enemy is also in process of acquiring S 400 system which is even superior in term of of range.

HQ 9 / P is a specific version and as per our tactics, real specification were not disclosed.
However, it assumed, it would have around 300 Km range with high accuracy.

Next surprise would be Induction of J-10 C and JF 17 Block 3 Insha Allah.

For Navy: Antiship ballistic missile with a range 1500 KM to pose a real threat to enemy Carriers.

Good Luck Armed Forces

 

[Tornado23]

That was long waiting weapon in modernize list .Thanks to Allah, we are equipped with high altitude and long range air defence. Layer is nearly completed.
However, Enemy is also in process of acquiring S 400 system which is even superior in term of of range.

HQ 9 / P is a specific version and as per our tactics, real specification were not disclosed.
However, it assumed, it would have around 300 Km range with high accuracy.

Next surprise would be Induction of J-10 C and JF 17 Block 3 Insha Allah.

For Navy: Antiship ballistic missile with a range 1500 KM to pose a real threat to enemy Carriers.

Good Luck Armed Forces

Looking forward to blk3 and p282. Cant wait for those.

 

[waz]

However, Enemy is also in process of acquiring S 400 system which is even superior in term of of range.

Look at the landmass of India compared to Pakistan, they also have another theatre to cover. Pakistan only has India and far less territory to cover.
We have four regiments in place now which give great coverage to 3/4 of the country, with more to come. They also compliment existing networks such as the SPADA.
The airspace of Pakistan will be incredibly secure.

 

[TOTUU]

It seems good development for us.

We are getting an equalizer.

But it is also important to remember that WEAPON just complicates the matter for enemy. If enemy is motivated or hell bent, he can circumvent any weapon you throw at him.

Air Defence Missile Units have their counter weapons. Think of Turkish Koral Systems or Dedicated EW platforms notorious for jamming Ground Missile Units.

KORAL is a land-based transportable electronic warfare system developed to jam and deceive hostile radars of enemy nations. It is designed and manufactured by Aselsan, a Turkish corporation that produces electronic systems for the Turkish Armed Forces.

-------

Furthermore, It seems we are getting Chinese Weapons for all of our 3 branches of armed forces. We are becoming small China in a military sense. The enemies of China may take great interest in checking things here and there so Pakistan needs to be vigilant and smart.

India may become a tool if not already in this regard to test out Chinese stuff.

Good thing is that Chinese are keeping Indians engaged in Himalayas

Iran, U.S., China Each Release Short Range Air Defense Missile Systems

If Iran can , then Pakistan and Turkey also have the technical capacity to release their own such systems

In 5-10 years, such systems will use AI technology.

While the defensive weapons are upgraded, the attack weapons will also become stronger and more intelligent.

 

[syed_yusuf]

Is j10c really on the card ?

 

[iLION12345_1]

Is j10c really on the card ?

It’s far beyond just the cards now

 

[TOTUU]

Is j10c really on the card ?

Of course, it is necessary to ensure a reliable supply of various military resources in wartime, and when military equipment is consumed in large quantities, it can be replenished directly from allied countries. Consistency with the military equipment of allied countries can maximize the reliability of military forces.

Non-stealth fighters such as the J-10 and J-16 are still being produced in large numbers, and they do not conflict with the equipment of the next generation of stealth fighters. The PLAAF is also receiving a large number of these 4.5 generation fighters.

China's 6th generation fighter is expected to be launched around 2030, just like the US. I think even by then, production will continue as far as the J-10 is concerned, because this non-stealth fighter is powerful, cost-effective, and not as expensive or difficult to maintain as the stealth aircraft, making it ideal for purchase in countries with little military pressure.

 

[Zarvan]

Is j10c really on the card ?

The question now is pretty much when they would arrive. They are a done deal. My only hope and wish and dua is that we go for several squadrons not just two.

 

[aamirzs]

 

[The Terminator]

Not every man lives in Lahore or only Lahore supplies fighting men - most of them come from Rural areas so it you who are rather lame in doing everything to try and save Lahore. You have no point other than running from one tangent to another trying to justify saving a single city.
Plenty of infrastructure to support the war effort outside of the major urban cities. Don’t try to hide behind tangents of infrastructure and all population centers in order to justify your want to save Lahore

What Land route will you follow to get fuel from Iran? Pray tell.. Maulana Diesel’s route?

Whatever it takes to protect the strategic facilities there and the supply lines. Karachi city isn’t the only strategic asset in that geographic area. Plenty of facilities no one here can imagine existing that ensure deterrence and India utter destruction in case it decides to be stupid.

I don’t think congressional approval will come unless its a FMS deal and if India doesn’t provide the United States with greater initiative in the Quad besides lip service. FMF is completely out of the question for Pakistan now and likely forever unless drastic geopolitical change happens.

men & material can be thrown into the defense of the country.
Karachi can be bombarded all over

Your little insecurities and genocidal tendencies wouldn't do that much good to you! . It's useless to argue with your insanity. Around 1/5th of the Pakistan's population lives in 2 big cities and you are willing to sacrifice them for what? It's not 1940s or 60s anymore.


A country like Pakistan who has to threaten to attack another small country thousands of kilometers away just for its own survival, while having highly questionable power projection attributes of those sorts defines the posture it has to continuously maintain to survive.

Pakistan since its inception has been severely at the disadvantage in terms of the size of its military, land mass and available manpower against its much larger next door rival, India. To counter that disadvantage we have survived this long by just sheer aggression, firepower and preemptive strikes into enemy's territories. Countless Great Men have sacrificed their lives to attack indian military infrastructure within hostile territory to blunt their attack and fought valiantly to defend their homeland and people.

Present Situation:
For past few decades Pakistan has been in major geographical and demographical dilemma. Most of our major population centers, major cities, vital civilian and military infrastructure is very close to the eastern border and under ever increasing danger of being wiped out due to proliferation of advanced missiles, land and air launched stand off precision guided weapons in the region for the past few decades.

The balance of military size, population and landmass depth would already be massively in India's favor and there isn't much left for us to afford to loose nor we would have the space to make any mistake in any calculations or commit blunders. Militaries around the globe are kept and paid to defend and fight.

If we wish to ever win against that huge enemy then we would have to take out 10 of their civilians for each of our civilian casualty and 7 of their soldiers against each of our soldier get martyred to shift that huge imbalance to somewhat in our favor. Similar conditions applies to equipment and infrastructure losses. That's why aggression is a compulsion to survive. That's why we had to do nuclear tests in response and recently destroy their trees in response to the loss of our trees . And developed full spectrum nuclear deterrence including tactical Nuclear missiles. We don't have any effective reserves or vast landmass to maneuver and keep retreating to. All of our force is committed at or very near the front lines.

Pakistan has many fault lines and vulnerabilities due to the aforementioned reasons. And if India ever manages to inflict damage at massive scale or incursions slightly deep into our territory then there would be no point of return for Pakistan. The balance of power would shift further more towards India. If India manages to do China cuttings within Pakistan's territory then a domino effect would ensue further and it won't stop anytime soon. They wouldn't have to attack your beloved concrete of Port or its adjacent factory or a road leading to it. It would be game over by then. Conventional militaries aren't that much efficient in fighting like resistance guerilla war style and guerilla warfare is an insult and disgrace by itself. Massive losses in men, equipment and/or land witout being able to inflict damage at least half a dozen times more in return then its already game over. Wars dont tend to last long in this part of the continent.

And after all this if you somehow mange to survive and gain control of couple of towns in Rajhistan desert. It won't be that much of intrinsic value to trade them with far more better territories of Punjab in post war negotiations.

And that concludes my last post in response. Hope sanity prevails.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

PAF will get 20-30 J10C by years end IA along with initial batch of PL15s

Next HQ9B brigade will more than likely be settup in Gilgit. Good that Karachi got the attention it needed first.

HQ9Bs longest range missile is 250KM

Can they be upgraded to C Level?

 

[The Terminator]

Look at the landmass of India compared to Pakistan, they also have another theatre to cover. Pakistan only has India and far less territory to cover.
We have four regiments in place now which give great coverage to 3/4 of the country, with more to come. They also compliment existing networks such as the SPADA.
The airspace of Pakistan will be incredible secure.

By induction of comprehensive long range capable air defense systems now PAF will have much needed better home-ground advantage near and beyond Pakistani borders comparable to the IAF's one. Army would also benefit from it as it would be really tricky for IAF to hit them under constant coverage and threat of SAMs everywhere

 

[waz]

By induction of comprehensive long range capable air defense systems now PAF will have much needed better home-ground advantage near and beyond Pakistani borders comparable to the IAF's one. Army would also benefit from it as it would be really tricky for IAF to hit them under constant coverage and threat of SAMs everywhere

Yep for sure, and they'll have multiple mach 5+ problems coming towards when they approach. One of the most impressive things the army has done in years is that we now have multilayered SAM network (HQ-7,HQ-16, HQ-9) the airforce also has the SPADA 2000 and they are looking to compliment this.