Pakistan (non nuclear)plan to counter cold start

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

PLA suffers from heavy logistical problems in Tibetan plateau they will never be able to deploy in large numbers.

Lolz i think you forgot their infrastructure along indian border , which is way more better then indian .

 

[SHAH820]

But we aren't listed among the top 10 fragile nations of the world.

lol rather then making up thinks in your mind see the reality
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...says-report/story-mNNt9sT9qgyWk6sOdJL35M.html
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ld-in-past-two-years/articleshow/57082541.cms

see the above

we have fought WOT not india we have highest achievement in WOT not india

now go and see we our improving but india' declining

pakistan at 153 india at 141

as far as i know india didnt hit by terrorism ??

 

[aryadravida_exmuslim]

lol rather then making up thinks in your mind see the reality
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...says-report/story-mNNt9sT9qgyWk6sOdJL35M.html
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ld-in-past-two-years/articleshow/57082541.cms

Of course now you'll share this data.
When did I say India is heaven!
These many IED blasts with such a diverse geography and people with complex politics is NOT a sign of threat. It's a nuisance.

Most of these blasts are silly. Anyone can make an IED these days. Many of these are pressure cookers. Many of these are political violence, between parties.

There are seven times the number of states/province/major people in India than Pak and four times the size. And yet, only double the number of explosions and lesser number of major events.

 

[SHAH820]

Of course now you'll share this data.
When did I say India is heaven!
These many IED blasts with such a diverse geography and people with complex politics is NOT a sign of threat. It's a nuisance.

Most of these blasts are silly. Anyone can make an IED these days. Many of these are pressure cookers. Many of these are political violence, between parties.

There are seven times the number of states/province/major people in India than Pak and four times the size. And yet, only double the number of explosions and lesser number of major events.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjLiP_46vPSAhVBuBQKHazTDPkQFghBMAY&url=http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/india-6th-most-affected-by-terrorism-in-2014-isis-boko-haram-behind-more-than-half-attacks-report/&usg=AFQjCNFyAd2P6DlD89ICZ4k_-T-A6WQHYQ&sig2=S_uE6lOewt70YPWI2uUwcw

compare to pakistan's 17 thousands
and also this (even tho they are old articles hut just t give an example)
https://www.dawn.com/news/1297480
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/pakistan-is-winning-its-war-on-terror/
https://tribune.com.pk/story/953303/over-last-9-months-70-decline-in-terrorist-attacks-in-pakistan/
terrorism in pakistan has fallen to 90% after the operation started where on the other side terrorism in india is on the rise india ranking is declining where pakistan improving

 

[Wolf]

That don't belongs to a General, we also have many like those.

These must be models bought by Indians to convince their population. Like false videos of sir g kal strike and a dead Indian soldier of kargil war decorated by highest indian military award ( who turned out to be alive )
Hajahaha.
Bottom line :- if we are so vulnerable than why Indians are sh1tting in p@nts and not attacking us. Who is preventing Indians in hot n cold or hot and sour doctrine?

Lastly some Indian members seem to be short by at least 4 years in their general knowledge about Pakistan. They need to upgrade previous version of zee virus software installed in 2013 on their minds after all they claim to be good in software

 

[StrategyMaster]

Pakistan has very few 4th generation fighters only 156-158 where as India has 390 4th generation jets all but 3 sqds deployed on Pakistan front.

Similarly Pakistan armoured force is below par too as they have only around 2050 tanks in service.
From 1975 onwards it acquired 825 Type 59, Type-59s bought prior to that are too old.
It also acquired in the same period 300 Type-69, 285 Type-85, 330 MBT-2000, 320 T-80.

Half of Pakistan Navy frigates are also around 40 year old.

at the end of the article it states the expertise of the writer, i am firm
that you can understand what she knows, you are not in even quarter of that

"Meenakshi Sood is a researcher with the Center for Land Warfare Studies (the Indian Army’s think tank) in New Delhi, India. She holds an MPhil and MA in International Relations from Jawaharlal Nehru University."

So please keep your childish analysis to your "STREET LEVEL" discussions

PS: I am not giving her the credit that some indians may think as sound of article goes in Pakistan's favor
so that's why I may be quoting her expertise but in the contrary I am saying on the fact that how come Pakistan will sit just like that to wait for Indian so-called "Cold Start" and not having adopted any non-declared (secret) counter strategy to "Warm End" (The Exact opposite of Cold Start)"

For clearing your vocabulary when I say "OPPOSITE" I meant,

Pakistan Strategy Indian Strategy
"Warm" exact opposite of "Cold"
"End" exact opposite of "Start"

So if India starts "Cold Start" , Pakistan ends with "Warm End"

I am not a War person, but if you want to go with discussion clueless on just numbers of weapons you are fool enough to discuss with, so be mature ... i think you do know enough that in all worst case scenario how much damage can a war create with messing nuclear capable country (whether you pour logic on us for being poor economy, terrorism whatever you count for Pakistan) even then I hope you can mature enough to digest the scale of collateral damage ... do you?

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Too many references to the likes of ISIS & Taliban in your replies.....Shows the mentality on the other side!

i mentioned ttp after an indian used the name.
i told you the ground reality, which had changed since afghan war started.

One is china, Please mention the other one......... JK, we all know how swiftly BD is developing!

620k is not a weak force i guess.

@MastanKhan sir, does this tactic look promising vis a vis tank battle ?

tanks dug in in safety can fight tanks on offensive better. Tanks are mostly used in open plain lands which are easy to target using anti tank guided missiles and artillary, along with anti armour mines.
in air war, let the enemy come into the range of your air defense. Then destroy them using air power improved with air defense.
Let them get weaken and then start your offense.

 

[Vengeful One]

Thats why China is empowering Pakistan from all sides to maintain and deploy your 70-80% deployment on the Pakistani side so that when you start creating problem for Pakistan, China can easily holding the ground. Your entire military deployment will take massive damage, time and expenses are too much for you to move btw the two front

Guess what! there are only 3 Global Solo powers youre just like bacha kaka for China. China knw how to control kid like India. This is difference between thinking way of global powers and so called supa dupa power lol

You don't understand any mathematics in fact your entire country's obsession with Pakistan is helping all super powers Russia to blackmail India in terms of weapon buying, United States blackmailing through defense, strategically as well as buying weapons, China keeps you @ bay by empowering Pakistan and now you game is almost come to ZERO when Pakistani Ex-Army commander RS will lead the world's most powerful military alliance of Arab countries which he can later use in the favor of Pakistan against you... what is your block by the way ? Afghanistan ? Bangladesh ? Nepal LOL

Aww nice ramblings like a 7 year old.
Saudi Alliance is a useless tea coffee org just like OIC.

These must be models bought by Indians to convince their population. Like false videos of sir g kal strike and a dead Indian soldier of kargil war decorated by highest indian military award ( who turned out to be alive )
Hajahaha.
Bottom line :- if we are so vulnerable than why Indians are sh1tting in p@nts and not attacking us. Who is preventing Indians in hot n cold or hot and sour doctrine?

Lastly some Indian members seem to be short by at least 4 years in their general knowledge about Pakistan. They need to upgrade previous version of zee virus software installed in 2013 on their minds after all they claim to be good in software

They are not fake like your ISPR movies.

Anyways what is the need to attack you when we managed to scare into submission.

Lolz i think you forgot their infrastructure along indian border , which is way more better then indian .

Their logistical lines are extremely stretched.

 

[SHAH820]

Aww nice ramblings like a 7 year old.
Saudi Alliance is a useless tea coffee org just like OIC.


They are not fake like your ISPR movies.

Anyways what is the need to attack you when we managed to scare into submission.


Their logistical lines are extremely stretched.

we have already proven who is bigger lair with fake trophies and medals
only thing you scared is yourself thats why you people still live in your imaginary world and cry on every forum


there is a word in urdu call izzat in english respect when a person is greatly insulted only thing he should do is to run with what respect is left

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

For all intents and purposes CSD died a quiet death...

PAK Full Sprectrum Deterence burried it under the massive heap of indian brovado...

They will keep on beating their hollow chests for a while just console their wounded tiny egos...nothing more.

Game has Changed for good. Time now is on Pak Side.

 

[ziaulislam]

Pakistan joined SEATO & CENTO hoping that US will intervene in it's favour but then started crying as no such direct intervention came.

There is he'll of difference between capturing a heavily armed tank and an unarmed light jeep, anyways here is the captured tank of a Pakistani armoured regiment commander:


Al zarrar numbers are included in The Type 59 totals.

Also China cannot deploy large number of troops in Tibet due to severe logistical problems.

al Zarrar is not a type 59 by any means, the gun, the Armour, hell even the engine is twice as powerful of t 59, it just use the chases and most component of type 59, it gives you modern tank capabilities with half the cost. they even look different. its protection and Armour and gun fire with night capabilities can fight any modern tank within its weight categery of 40 tones

you are telling cannot deploy numbers , any where along the vast boarder from kashmir to A. Pradesh
the whole cold start doctrine means decimating opponent air force and basic defense capabilities followed by ground troop invasion.

 

[Vengeful One]

al Zarrar is not a type 59 by any means, the gun, the Armour, hell even the engine is twice as powerful of t 59, it just use the chases and most component of type 59, it gives you modern tank capabilities with half the cost. they even look different. its protection and Armour and gun fire with night capabilities can fight any modern tank within its weight categery of 40 tones

you are telling cannot deploy numbers , any where along the vast boarder from kashmir to A. Pradesh
the whole cold start doctrine means decimating opponent air force and basic defense capabilities followed by ground troop invasion.

Still it is inferior to a T-72.

China Still has very long stretched lines of logistical supplies and the terrain is in our favour in a aggresive-defensive war

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

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Their logistical lines are extremely stretched.

You should watch your own media's reports abouts CHINESE infrastructure along indian border .

 

[ziaulislam]

Still it is inferior to a T-72.

China Still has very long stretched lines of logistical supplies and the terrain is in our favour in a aggresive-defensive war

al Zarrar inferior to T 72 yes, still doesnt change the fact that it can easily face T-72 in battlefield and do its job due to its modern gun, upgraded armour and electronics
not true in certain parts of the boarders, they can easily make strong inroads in places e.g A. Pradesh, if they want
but chinese dont want war unlike india, whose complete identity and unity is based upon anti Pakistan sentiment

 

[Wolf]

Aww nice ramblings like a 7 year old.
Saudi Alliance is a useless tea coffee org just like OIC.


They are not fake like your ISPR movies.

Anyways what is the need to attack you when we managed to scare into submission.


Their logistical lines are extremely stretched.

Yeah, scare us into submission. What a joke. Then stop complaining we do this and that in Kashmir.
Talk about movies? This your Indians have been caught more than once by your soldiers and officers to get medals for feats which they never had the guts to do.