Pakistan (non nuclear)plan to counter cold start

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

in 1947-48 war our mujahideens vs your trained soldiers with better weapons result pakistan capture 40% kashmir
in 1965 war india attack pakistan and having better weapons pakistan retaliate with old weapons and then attack indian territory indian troops ran leaving their tanks still won prove lies tell by your army
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/fail...-their-own-aircraft-stated-as-paf-f-6.448372/
and
international media
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and dont forget MM ALAM shooting down those advance fighters in just few second
in 1971 war still india ahead of pakistan in weapons still unable to capture any land east pakistan becomes bangladesh (despite completely surrounded by india and far from west pakistan)
in 1999 kargil war india lost despite using its airforce and army against pakistani troops and also lost more soldiers then pakistan and aircrafts prove LOC signed by your leaders
2016 pakistan's defence export is about $1.5 billion dollars compare to india's $320 million (dont know who buys those old pakistani **** but not india's high tech weapons)
pakistan have tanks which are counted as world best tank, produce terrain hugging cruise missile (only US and pakistan have the tech) first in south asia and fifth in the world to able to produce MIRV capable BM make ,almost 70% of weapons by itself and gradually upgrading its existing fleets

in vietnam war US lost against farmers
in world war 2 many army battalion lost against least advance forces at that time
in soviet afghan war Pakistan's ISI (with mujaheedins) able to defeat world biggest power at that time and break it into many part
US force are failing miserably in afghanistan against least advance force in the world

its not the weapons its the way and the will to use them

koi faida nhi un se behas ka. Zee news khul jaye ga. So plz agr apna khyal nhi to hum pe reham kr.

 

[Vengeful One]

really. and you are expecting your army to fight a two front war for you. do you really think you are a global power when you are afraid of just 1 small and poor neighbor.
By the way with problems at south china sea. 2 front war for cpec is a reality.

There is very little scope of conflict with China.
Anyways in a two front war we will be on offensive on Pakistan front and in a defensive one on eastern front.
India has a massive advantage ver China in a defensive war.

 

[SHAH820]

We have won a equal number if gold medals.

give prove or nothing happens and please we know how you people able to won gold medal like fake encounters in kargil war

 

[Cool_Soldier]

To me, it should not just to stop troops coming from 7-8 points extensively but to have forces ready to open offence on other various points too to give them same puzzling situation to enemy.

That would convert the offensive attack in defensive strategy and enemy would loose its further grip and would be diverted.

 

[Vengeful One]

in 1947-48 war our mujahideens vs your trained soldiers with better weapons result pakistan capture 40% kashmir
in 1965 war india attack pakistan and having better weapons pakistan retaliate with old weapons and then attack indian territory indian troops ran leaving their tanks still won prove lies tell by your army
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/fail...-their-own-aircraft-stated-as-paf-f-6.448372/
and
international media
View attachment 386577
and dont forget MM ALAM shooting down those advance fighters in just few second
in 1971 war still india ahead of pakistan in weapons still unable to capture any land east pakistan becomes bangladesh (despite completely surrounded by india and far from west pakistan)
in 1999 kargil war india lost despite using its airforce and army against pakistani troops and also lost more soldiers then pakistan and aircrafts prove LOC signed by your leaders
2016 pakistan's defence export is about $1.5 billion dollars compare to india's $320 million (dont know who buys those old pakistani **** but not india's high tech weapons)
pakistan have tanks which are counted as world best tank, produce terrain hugging cruise missile (only US and pakistan have the tech) first in south asia and fifth in the world to able to produce MIRV capable BM make ,almost 70% of weapons by itself and gradually upgrading its existing fleets

in vietnam war US lost against farmers
in world war 2 many army battalion lost against least advance forces at that time
in soviet afghan war Pakistan's ISI (with mujaheedins) able to defeat world biggest power at that time and break it into many part
US force are failing miserably in afghanistan against least advance force in the world

its not the weapons its the way and the will to use them

In 1947 Pakistani fought against unarmed and outnumbered Durga soldiers, after Indian Army moved in Pakistan failed to get a single village.

In 1965 Pakistan started war by invading Kashmir and then failed to gain a single inch.

Kargil was a total disaster for Pakistan as accepted by your own General Aziz.

Pakistan defence export is not even $150 million whereas India's is over $ 250-300 million.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

There is very little scope of conflict with China.
Anyways in a two front war we will be on offensive on Pakistan front and in a defensive one on eastern front.
India has a massive advantage ver China in a defensive war.

you can't be on offensive on Pakistan front as you lack that technical and numerical advantage.
ISIS fought the whole world in mosul for months and still war is going on. We are more stronger than many ISIS combined.

 

[Cool_Soldier]

Recently India planned to deploy 500 tanks near Pakistan border, Pakistan should counter it by getting more quality tanks under AL Haider Project around 300 tanks an deploy them against enemy.

 

[Fledgingwings]

Only time will tell who stands and who falls.(specially for my indian friends).we have faith in ourselves as a nation as much as we have in our forces

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

In 1947 Pakistani fought against unarmed and outnumbered Durga soldiers, after Indian Army moved in Pakistan failed to get a single village.

In 1965 Pakistan started war by invading Kashmir and then failed to gain a single inch.

Kargil was a total disaster for Pakistan as accepted by your own General Aziz.

Pakistan defence export is not even $150 million whereas India's is over $ 250-300 million.

It was not Pakistan army but un armed tribals who defeated dogras.
in 65. we were about to take your punjab but india went to UN for ceasefire.
In kargil 1500 paramilitary fought 30000 soldiers from strike cores of india. Shahid Aziz was not the part of kargil operation. It was local commanders war.
Pakistan defense exports is even if half of indias is a better figure, keeping in mind the size of both countries. By the way POF exports were more than 80million in 2016.

 

[Vengeful One]

It was not Pakistan army but un armed tribals who defeated dogras.
in 65. we were about to take your punjab but india went to UN for ceasefire.
In kargil 1500 paramilitary fought 30000 soldiers from strike cores of india. Shahid Aziz was not the part of kargil operation. It was local commanders war.
Pakistan defense exports is even if half of indias is a better figure, keeping in mind the size of both countries.

The tribals were far better armed than Dogras.
In 65 war you were kicked out Punjab at the borders at Khemkaran itself.
Ceasefire saved your sialjot sector and haji pair from us.

Shahud Aziz was a lieutenant General during Kargil so his words along with that of PM Nawaz Sharif Carey a lot of Wright.

 

[SHAH820]

In 1947 Pakistani fought against unarmed and outnumbered Durga soldiers, after Indian Army moved in Pakistan failed to get a single village.

In 1965 Pakistan started war by invading Kashmir and then failed to gain a single inch.

Kargil was a total disaster for Pakistan as accepted by your own General Aziz.

Pakistan defence export is not even $150 million whereas India's is over $ 250-300 million.

lol give prove not imaginary news i have given prove where you have failed to provide any

look like all those information just goes over your head please learn history then come back

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

We have 2:1 advantage in armour & jets which is more than enough for an offensive.

ISIS war is guerrilla warfare whereas India Pakistan war will be a conventional one like between USA & Iraq(Saddam)

Our army won't fight a conventional war only. We took classes from taliban.
You need more advantage to be on offensive. You are not US and we are not iraq. You know that and we know that too. To be on offensive you need atleast 10 time more power to invade a country. US airforce did that with iraq.
India can just fight a war against us but can't win it. Same is the Pakistan's case. But india have more strong seperatists movements, while Pakistan have no major speratist movement in Pakistan. India will suffer more fro war.

 

[Vengeful One]

give prove or nothing happens and please we know how you people able to won gold medal like fake encounters in kargil war

Just search cambian patrols and you would see.

Our army won't fight a conventional war only. We took classes from taliban.
You need more advantage to be on offensive. You are not US and we are not iraq. You know that and we know that too. To be on offensive you need atleast 10 time more power to invade a country. US airforce did that with iraq.
India can just fight a war against us but can't win it. Same is the Pakistan's case. But india have more strong seperatists movements, while Pakistan have no major speratist movement in Pakistan. India will suffer more fro war.

A short two three week war will see no time for guerrilla warfare.

Also TTP is far more potent than all militant groups in India combined.

lol give prove not imaginary news i have given prove where you have failed to provide any

look like all those information just goes over your head please learn history then come back

It is you who is posting imAginary news & ISPR lies.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

The tribals were far better armed than Dogras.
In 65 war you were kicked out Punjab at the borders at Khemkaran itself.
Ceasefire saved your sialjot sector and haji pair from us.

Shahud Aziz was a lieutenant General during Kargil so his words along with that of PM Nawaz Sharif Carey a lot of Wright.

shahid aziz was a lt general but not part of kargil operation. He was kept unaware of the kargil war. According to his own words he was surprised when he knew about it.
More ever he had some grudge against musharraf due to musharraf by passing him to the post of army chief.

About 65. It's better if we don't debate on history as it will always be inconclusive debate and waste of our time.
Hope we solve our problems through dialogues as next war will be long and bloody and most probably will lead to a nuclear scenario which is not something a person with brain will wish for.

 

[Vengeful One]

shahid aziz was a lt general but not part of kargil operation. He was kept unaware of the kargil war. According to his own words he was surprised when he knew about it.
More ever he had some grudge against musharraf due to musharraf by passing him to the post of army chief.

About 65. It's better if we don't debate on history as it will always be inconclusive debate and waste of our time.
Hope we solve our problems through dialogues as next war will be long and bloody and most probably will lead to a nuclear scenario which is not something a person with brain will wish for.

You don't have to be aware of launch of an operation to analyse it after it is over.