Pakistan Navy’s 2300 Tons OPVs launched by Damen

[aziqbal]

instead of DDG we should acquire even more SSK

actually 3 x modernised Agosta + 8 x Hangor Chinese SSK + we should aim for half dozen Midget submarines

this would give almost a dozen large submarines add submarine launched cruise would be a great addition

 

[Zarvan]

Air defense hasn't necessarily failed in those situations, rather the defending countries were significantly outgunned in terms of numbers, technology levels, and in their ability to retaliate against the attackers. This is not the case in Indo/Pakistan scenario. You are not even sure what you are complaining about. First it was the need for cruise missiles on ships. PN delivered sub launched Baburs and is acquiring 8 AIP subs (supposedly). Still weren't satisfied. Then they delivered Harbah and are equipping Azmat class, Babur class, these new 2600t damens, and likely will refit F-22P with these, not to mention the C-302 AShM on Tughril class which also has land attack capability.

So what is the new wish? Destroyers? When the country is on the verge of bankruptcy? Remember, while what you say about IN capabilities are true, the PN has the means to strike back with Harbah while sitting in Pakistani waters. It also is developing P-282 which will likely have a range of 1000km+ so will safely out range any brahmos carrying vessel. This is also excluding the retaliatory capacity of PAF (displayed during balakot incident) and PA. These events are not fought in a vacuum and you dont need a 1:1 response capability. Does anyone think Russia would not think twice before attacking findland and sweden? They are far smaller with more fast moving forces than russia. Give the attacker pause and follow it up with a severely bloodied nose so it doesnt get overconfident.

Even the attacks on Russia have been successful. The missiles which Ukraine fired on Russia have hit their targets

 

[time pass]

Apparently, the Batch-II is part of six heavier tonnage vessels former naval chief talked about. Destroyer is thing of far future, so is Jinnah class. (post 2030)

In near future, the PN 20-ship fleet might comprise of;

2X Yarmook class OPVs,
6X Batch-II/III/IV OPVs,
4X Babur class corvettes,
4X Zulfiquar class frigates,
4X Tughril class frigates.

In my opinion, the following describes the PN surface fleet in the next 7 to 8 years based on recent events, including the development of two additional 2.5K OPVs and more in-depth information about Jinnah class weapon packages/EW suites & technical details.

• 4X Zulfiqar class frigates (F22p)
• 4X Tughril class frigates (054A/P)
• 4X Babur class corvettes (Milgem class)
• 2X Yarmook class OPVs (1900t - Damen)
• 2X Unnamed class OPVs (2600t - Damen)
• 8X Jinnah class frigates (Based on Istanbul class - 3.5t)

 

[Tornado23]

Even the attacks on Russia have been successful. The missiles which Ukraine fired on Russia have hit their targets

Not really. Many were shot down.

Same with Russian missiles. Ukrainian AD intercepted and destroyed 10/12 kalibr CM attacking Odessa in 1 day.

AD may seem overrated, but its still better than not having any sort of AD coverage

 

[Abid123]

20 Ship Modernized fleet is sufficient fleet for regional needs not forgetting the Submarines coming

Navy is set for at least , 15 years

20 major surface ship is massive. The Royal navy operates 22 major surface ships and the French navy operates 24. Both of them have global power projection.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

International countries with their resources can grow their range from 20 ships to 100 ships rapidly as they have tremendous man power

So even if we have 20 Ships it does not means we can be compared with Industrial power houses like UK

However the 20 Ship setup is decent presence

 

[Abid123]

International countries with their resources can grow their range from 20 ships to 100 ships rapidly as they have tremendous man power

So even if we have 20 Ships it does not means we can be compared with Industrial power houses like UK

However the 20 Ship setup is decent presence

Where did I say that the PN can be compared with the RN? Read my post again.

 

[Abid123]

6 Type 52 D destroyer should come. Plus heavy Frigates like French FREMM. What I mean by that is Pakistan and China should develop a heavy Frigate for Pakistan which has 32 to 40 VLS out of which 16 to 20 should carry long range air defence missile and other 16 to 20 should carry long range land attack cruise missile.

We dont need to focus more on surface fleet bro. What we are getting in the future is enough.

We need to focus on good satellites and, reconnaissance drones (WZ-8 as example) and aircraft. This way we can pinpoint and locate IN aircraft carriers and target them with P-282 and maybe DF-17 or DF-100 if China is willing to share tech.

 

[Zarvan]

We dont need to focus more on surface fleet bro. What we are getting in the future is enough.

We need to focus on good satellites and, reconnaissance drones (WZ-8 as example) and aircraft. This way we can pinpoint and locate IN aircraft carriers and target them with P-282 and maybe DF-17 or DF-100 if China is willing to share tech.

Yes we need focus on surface fleet as well as Submarines. We need both in really big size. Way more then 20 Surface ships. Although one way to do is learn from Russia. Russia has small corvettes which can fire 1500 to 2000 KM range land attack cruise missiles. Plus we need to increase range of our cruise missiles which are fired from our FACT Azmat and other missile boats.

 

[Tipu7]

20 major surface ship is massive. The Royal navy operates 22 major surface ships and the French navy operates 24. Both of them have global power projection.

British and French 'major surface ships' are much bigger and far far more capable. Their navies are designed for power projection, ours for sea-denial.

 

[Bratva]

Damen discloses further details of Pakistan's OPV 2600 vessels

Netherlands-based shipbuilder Damen has disclosed further details of the vessels it is building for the Pakistan Navy, which are derived from the company's OPV 2600...

www.janes.com

Anyone has janes account so full details can be shared?

@kursed @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @fatman17

 

[fatman17]

Damen discloses further details of Pakistan's OPV 2600 vessels

Netherlands-based shipbuilder Damen has disclosed further details of the vessels it is building for the Pakistan Navy, which are derived from the company's OPV 2600...

www.janes.com

Anyone has janes account so full details can be shared?

@kursed @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @fatman17

Unfortunately not anymore

 

[Yasser76]

Netherlands-based shipbuilder Damen has disclosed further details of the vessels it is building for the Pakistan Navy, which are derived from the company's OPV 2600 design.

The first of the two vessels, which are a follow-on order to the country's Yarmook-class patrol vessels, was laid down on 15 July at the Damen shipyard in Galati, Romania.

The Pakistan Navy has not disclosed details of the contract it has signed with Damen for these vessels, and the programme to procure follow-on vessels to the Yarmook class was only made known at the steel-cutting ceremony.

The Pakistan Navy operates a fleet of two Yarmook-class patrol vessels that were commissioned in February and November 2020, respectively. The vessels, PNS Yarmook and PNS Tabuk, were also built by Damen Shipyards at its Galati facility.

The Yarmook class displaces about 2,300 tonne with an overall length of 91 m, an overall beam of 14 m, and a hull draught of 4 m. It can accommodate a crew complement of 138 and a medium helicopter on its flight deck.

In response to queries from Janes, a Damen representative has confirmed that the follow-on vessels to the Yarmook class have larger dimensions given its overall length of 98 m, a beam of 14.4 m, and a design draught of 4 m.

It will displace approximately 2,600 tonne and can accommodate a crew complement of 60, with additional spaces for 36 personnel.

The vessel will have a standard range of about 6,000 n miles at a cruising speed of 12 kt.

A computer-generated image (CGI) of the vessel that was provided to Janes

Damen discloses further details of Pakistan's OPV 2600 vessels

Netherlands-based shipbuilder Damen has disclosed further details of the vessels it is building for the Pakistan Navy, which are derived from the company's OPV 2600...

www.janes.com

 

[Ajamal]

looks modern and stealth.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1129263313332916224

alth.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Batch II Yarmook-class corvettes, Pakistan Navy:
x1 Leonardo Marlin 40 naval gun
x8 VLS cells (CAMM-ER) for SAMs
x6 SMASH supersonic NG-ASCM
x1 Aselsan Gokdeniz CIWS
x1 Aselsan STAMP RCWS
Helicopter hangar and deck
Smart-S MK2 air and surface surveillance 3D radar
ESM/ECM & ELINT